dalaman:


There is a living God that exist and it is from KingEbukasBlog mouth that we are hearing about such a God. No God that exist will rely on you to make its case for it ever. Only a God that lives inside your head. I've told you this a thousand times.

KingEbukasBlog:


It clearly states that no religion not atheism is on the rise in England . Having no religion does not make you an atheist . But hold on , how true is this research since immigrants from the Middle East keep pouring in .

I gave you a snippet of the report . HP is known for always being against religion . The Guardian , which is British , addressed the issue you raised more appropriately .

GeneralShepherd:


Did you miss the report from christian post?

Also why have you refused to say a word about your attempt at prevarication when you posted a news article from America as a rebuttal to a claim I made about England?

KingEbukasBlog:


So if there is a surge in the number of immigrants moving to Europe including England , how is atheism on the rise . Rape has always been a problem in Sweden , but the immigrants which are Muslims actually caused the increase in rape cases .

winner01:
I 'on know exactly. But its definately not the same thing that motivates you to express your rage for a "Non-existent" God or better put- for a God you hope does not exist.

GeneralShepherd:


Again, it is either you are genuinely not updated on happenings around the world or you are employing cheap tactics to win just to win an argument.

I'll choose to believe the former because I assume you are a man of integrity.

Now on the issue of migration from the middle East, the UK has refused to take in their fare share of refugees from the middle east when compared to their more generous neighbours like France, Sweden and Germany.

I have attached a graph depicting migration per capita across European countries for the year 2015.

Also Sweden, besides the fact that the surge in migration has increased the number of rape and crimes against women, there are other factors that contribute to the astronomical difference between cases in Sweden and the European average.

These factors include :

1. Statistical Factors: In Sweden alleged rape cases are immediately filed as rape cases when reported. In contrast, other European countries only record rape cases after it has been proven through investigation and subsequent conviction that rape actually occurred.

2. Legal Factors: The legal definition of rape can be narrow or wide depending on prevailing local laws in a country. In Sweden , the definition of rape- legally - has been increasingly broadened over the years, as a result more sexual offences are now classified as rape.

3. Substantive Factors : Swedish legal system has earned a lot of public trust over the years in sexual assault cases,therefore more people are willing to report crimes which invariably affects statistics.

For further studies.... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

cloudgoddess:

The concept of the Abrahamic God as he is described in the Hebrew bible is what is abhorrent.

cloudgoddess:

The fact that people worship such an idea is disturbing. Recognize that it's ideas that are under criticism here.

cloudgoddess:

Satan is more useful, powerful, and trustworthy than god. Satan has the power to make prosperous, safe, lawful nations while god can only sit back as millions who believe in him starve to death, suffer at the hands of corrupt governments, die from curable diseases, and kill each other.

cloudgoddess:

What a useless god.

cloudgoddess:

an egotistical man-baby with middle-eastern 1st century values

cloudgoddess:

Then what business does any person have worshipping such a god? A God who doesn't care of the earth on which billions of people live goes to ruins. Peace is not on his agenda but lining pastor's pocketbook with lambourgini money is? & helping little Sally pass her exam is? and all the other arbitrary strokes of good fortune that Christians attribute to Gods doing? He has time for petty favors like these but world peace is not as important? Mschewww. Very useless god.

cloudgoddess:
If Jesus/God is real, he is as useless as having no God at all.

cloudgoddess:

In other words, people can point out the flaws in the traits of storybook characters without believing in the actual existence of said characters.

cloudgoddess:

But I think you know this already and are just acting intentionally clueless. It's really not a hard thing to grasp.

Strawman:
KingEbukasBlog and winner01, it's amazing how you guys manage to foster intelligent arguments and troll back at these atheist trolls at the same time. Most people on NL only have talent for one of those.

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I wonder why I end up finding these kinda threads late even tho I'm tagged/mentioned.

winner01:
By whose moral standards? Yours? .. A pitiless unplanned bag of matter?
Ok. I wanted to recognize that fact but then i saw these quotes below. And it occurred to me that you are either a liar, a God-hater or a revenge seeking determined individual.











You mean people can consistently dedicate each day of their lives to cursing a storybook character e.g spiderman? and not believe in spiderman? I think not.
I know one thing for sure. I dont waste my time and life on non-existent superheroes. @ bolded, is that the latest adj. used by the scientific evolutionary community to qualify "deluded" christians??

KingEbukasBlog:


Bro . I already told you that I agree with you - the surge of immigrants in Sweden led to the rise of rape cases . The point is that this problem persists in an "atheist nation " .

GeneralShepherd:



I have clearly demonstrated that the increase in incidents of rape in Sweden bears no correlation with surge in atheism. Yet, you still insist that atheism is to be blamed against all evidence that point to other causes.

At this juncture, it is safe to assume that you are being purposely dubious on this particular issue and hence I'll save Seun space on his server by ending this conversation here.

KingEbukasBlog:


Jesus Christ

KingEbukasBlog:


Prior to the 'surge of atheism ' in Sweden , the country has always struggled with rape cases . The 'surge of immigrants' in the country simply exacerbated the problem .

I'm not sure why are falsely accusing me . You made claims that atheist countries are safe to live in . A country like Sweden where 1 out of 4 women being likely to be raped does not sound like a safe place to live in . Whoever perpetrates this despicable act is not the concern here .

You also claimed that there is the 'rise of atheism' in England . And I told you that

1. This is not so because of proliferation of Muslims in the country.

2. The country is witnessing a rise in irreligiousity (No religion) and not atheism . I provided a snippet as proof (source : The Guardian ) . It made no mention of atheism

You just pick out bits of my posts which you are able to object and ignore the rest

GeneralShepherd:


When you brought up Sweden, I demonstrated that the high number of rape cases in Sweden is as a result of many factors. It is also widely believed that rape numbers may not be an anomaly, if other countries had similar rape laws.

Please read this article, it will shed more light on why it seems Sweden has a disproportionately high number of rape cases. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

Did I ever say that rise in Muslim immigrants is causing the surge in atheism in the UK ? Did I say that? Why result to a strawman? I never made any statement to that effect.

Well, you can choose to interpret the report as you wish but the fact is that religion especially Christianity is dieing off in the UK. Let me rephrase, religion is suffering from rapid decline among its ranks in the UK

winner01:
You inflate 1000 to 100,000,000? Okay, Kwantinue, your ancestors are watching you in 3D.

KingEbukasBlog:


What's with this rigmarole ? One daft comment after the other , why do you have a penchant for that You said if God doubles money why hasn't he done same for the referred person since Dangote and Bill Gate are rich . Its obvious that you failed to realise that both Dangote and Bill Gate are religious

winner01:
I 'on know exactly. But its definately not the same thing that motivates you to express your rage for a "Non-existent" God or better put- for a God you hope does not exist.

winner01:
By whose moral standards? Yours? .. A pitiless unplanned bag of matter?
Ok. I wanted to recognize that fact but then i saw these quotes below. And it occurred to me that you are either a liar, a God-hater or a revenge seeking determined individual.










You mean people can consistently dedicate each day of their lives to cursing a storybook character e.g spiderman? and not believe in spiderman? I think not.
I know one thing for sure. I dont waste my time and life on non-existent superheroes. @ bolded, is that the latest adj. used by the scientific evolutionary community to qualify "deluded" christians??

KingEbukasBlog:


You need to read this article : http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield



I am telling you to explain how there could a rise of a particular religion and atheism at the same time in the same country . . You've failed to defend your claims here , young man .



And again, he fails to reconcile the rise in the number of Muslims in England and the 'surge of atheism ' in the same country . Mention me whenever you stop being disingenuous .

frank317:


Hehehe, the quotes pain u right?
Face the truth, ur God is useless and nonexistent. That's why u will continue crying on his behalf.

Weah96:


American Indians buddy. There was a massive genocide for which they continue to receive compensation till this day.

winner01:
Amer-indians??

Weah96:


They're called native Americans.

winner01:
Relax. Try to be coherent.

KingEbukaNaija:
Cool talk