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Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by dazzlingd(m): 12:17am On Jun 16, 2016 |
realmindz:Oh mamacita! !! |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:20am On Jun 16, 2016 |
realmindz: Asah means make out from already existing material , bara means to create . So it makes sense to say their functionalities were restored |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:22am On Jun 16, 2016 |
realmindz: Resorting to vituperative attacks means no more response . Good bye young man |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:25am On Jun 16, 2016 |
lepasharon: There are purveyors/proponents of the bible being allegorical . Fundamentalists take these stories , every bit of them , literally . Which ever you chose to believe , the main thing is to accept Christ and be born again . |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Weah96: 12:27am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: I fixed it for you. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by dblackninja: 12:29am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:I don't think we have to even dispute over this. What is a superhuman exactly? You have given human attributes to something powerful and beyond the capabilities of a human, yet you're stressing your self with the word superhuman? God is not a thing . If you gona make further pejorative descriptions about God , then just forget itAm just trying to get a vivid picture of what you call god. So if I get what you were trying to say all along, you meant that this god which is not bound by any laws, is the source of the universe right? |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:33am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Weah96: Creation of life is God's prerogative . But if he permits that science can create life from the inanimate then its still a win for the theists - intelligence is required to bring forth life . Hey Mr. Nature-is-conscious , how conscious was nature during the formation of moon . There are five Legends say you are still patching up a rebuttal 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:36am On Jun 16, 2016 |
dblackninja: Humanoid robots are less powerful than man , therefore man should be called a super-robot . Well I'm not surprised this type of ratiocination is coming from an atheist . Am just trying to get a vivid picture of what you call god. Is the cause . He is not bound by the laws . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by lepasharon(f): 12:47am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Lol you want me to accept christ and be Born again when Christians cannot even agree on which part of the bible is literal or not. They cannot even agree on what the Bible says. Sort your religion out before you ask me to be born again. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by dblackninja: 12:52am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Now I see, taking superhuman to mean an advanced form of a human being. Well we are digressing. This is not what I came to do. Is the cause . He is not bound by the laws .Since you need a proof that there's no god, Here we go.. If everything has a source and god is that source, then god must have existed without it before he created it. So if god created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. If all life must come from something and that is god, god is not alive and hence non-existent. If moral must come from god, god lacks moral. If logic comes from god, god is illogic. If nature comes from god, god is unnatural. If existence comes from god, god is non-existent. If god is the cause of everything, god is void |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 12:56am On Jun 16, 2016 |
sweetcocoa: I think this comment is shallow Considering you have no video proof to serve as your evidence that nature was not created by God , you have no right to be close-minded . If I ask you what caused the universe , how life came forth from the non living or how nature figured out reproduction or reproductive organs , you'll just run away like a recreant . You have no fact that precludes God's existence. Don't forget to take fruits fine baby , you know nature somehow figured out that man would need a variety of fruits to keep him nourished so it mistakenly provided him with enough before it sends asteroids to destroy him at the end after which it runs out of energy and fails to exist . 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by sukkot: 12:57am On Jun 16, 2016 |
sweetcocoa:Can you show us in the bible where it says a SNAKE gave a woman fruit to eat ? thanks in advance. Quote the verse in here cuz if i remember correctly it says ' serpent ' and serpent means a very crafty dubious person serpent [sur-puh nt] Spell Syllables Examples Word Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com noun 1. 2. a wily, treacherous, or malicious person 3 Likes |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 1:02am On Jun 16, 2016 |
dblackninja: Such gallimaufry of thoughts ! What kind of wack thinking is this . Ive not seen so much garbage in one post . cc : winner01 . You need to see what was conjured up as logical thinking . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 1:09am On Jun 16, 2016 |
lepasharon: Good thinking . Just like science sorted out itself with conflicting theories that refute God before you joined the science-over-religion gang . Abi na? |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by dblackninja: 1:09am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:You have your proof for the non-existence of god. Read again. This time slowly. Digest and comprehend. If everything has a source and god is that source, then god must have existed without it before he created it. So if god created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. If all life must come from something and that is god, god is not alive and hence non-existent. If moral must come from god, god lacks moral. If logic comes from god, god is illogic. If nature comes from god, god is unnatural. If existence comes from god, god is non-existent. If god is the cause of everything, god is void |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by lepasharon(f): 1:11am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Which conflicting theories are there, and that refute god? |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 1:22am On Jun 16, 2016 |
lepasharon: Origin of the moon . You can have fun with the quintessence of scientific assumptions . These lots assume assume and imagine then assume and people will be screaming science refutes God Atheists concluded there is no God because 1. Mystical events in the bible cannot be explained scientifically , therefore there is no God 2. Creation story is at variance with the 3. Bad design argument - they believe an all intelligent God will not create a flawed universe or life forms , therefore there is no God . There are all specious arguments that an erudite Christian can easily take down 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Weah96: 1:24am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Fixed it for you again. Why do you keep hiding behind the word God when in fact you really worship the resurrected Jew? I asked you a question and you instructed me to go and read theories on the formation of the moon. So I had the impression that you were giving up. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by lepasharon(f): 1:27am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: Oya take down the argument for evolution |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 1:33am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Weah96: You sound like a deist . That's good to see . Atheism impedes logical thinking and I'm glad you are getting back to your senses . I asked you a question and you instructed me to go and read theories on the formation of the moon. So I had the impression that you were giving up. Why should I give up . You kept reiterating that since man is conscious nature is conscious - this is such an egregious ratiocination . I'm sure you learnt a thing or two from chaotic , random , chance-dependent way the moon was formed . That was an irrefutable cogent proof that nature is not conscious at all . Nature is functional not conscious . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 1:52am On Jun 16, 2016 |
lepasharon: 1. Evolution is a design concept and God may have chosen to do create life using evolution . 2. The godless evolution has several insurmountable problems like transitional fossils , how cells derived the propensity to evolve , irreducible complexity , limits of variation of species etc From 2 above , if we even assert that God orchestrated the process , then these problems can be easily tackled . Not the fortuitous evolution of different life forms and attributes of these life forms . I was arguing with an atheist , an evolutionist , sometime and he claimed man has not evolved fully to understand consciousness . This process has no goal or direction or aim , so how is he certain that man will attain that level of intelligence - that's faith . They also said evolution does not mean becoming better - an amelioration of bodily features , social behavior , intelligence - then why are evolutionists making predictions that man would get better in the future . The precis of this yarn is that we are being coerced to accept assumptions which are pertinaciously held as truth 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Weah96: 2:56am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: You have a limited view of what nature is. In your head, nature is a bunch of rocks. I can't help you if you won't help yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by sevenhundred(m): 5:02am On Jun 16, 2016 |
[quote author=KingEbukaNaija post=46609246] Any proof it is manufactured or non existent There are many experiences . Here is just one of many . A man can now walk because of the power of God . Lots of Christians here have talked about the benefits they have experienced from tithes and offerings . cc: Anas09 This is an opinion . The words and views from putative scholars like Socrates , Aristotle , Plato who existed thousands of years ago are still relevant in modern education . God is still doing it now . A lot of people from all walks of life have experienced God . You just failed to accept their experiences as valid . ...Like I always say here , a Car is dedicated in my church every Sunday . Its always a car , house or the tricycle - most times its a car . We spend hours listening to various testimonies about instant answers to prayers in my Church .imagine just because of worldly things? ritualist do testify also. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Nobody: 6:09am On Jun 16, 2016 |
lepasharon: Please don't be stupid. If they could. They would've done it long ago. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Omoluabi16(m): 6:12am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Sugarhugs:good morning sunshine |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Nobody: 6:23am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by Omoluabi16(m): 6:26am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Sugarhugs:chai..me rainfall. I'm sure you slept well sha, Do have a nice day. |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by sweetcocoa(f): 7:36am On Jun 16, 2016 |
I sukkot:Why take only the second definition? What does the first one say? Smh My friend, some translations of the bible says "snake" and there's no where serpent is described without snake being mentioned, infact it is derived from the word 'serpens' which means a crawling animal or snake so what are you on about? Let's not even mention the fact that the bible refers to it as the most cunning of all the wild beast that god created, I guess you didn't see that part in your own bible. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by sweetcocoa(f): 7:42am On Jun 16, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:You are not making any sense my dear. Not knowing how the earth came to be for a fact, doesn't mean god did it and you are the one claiming he did it,ergo the onus is on you to provide the video evidence you talked about. I'd rather try and find answers to some of those questions by using my brain, than believe whatever unverifiable nonsense religion teaches like a brainless zombie. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by KingEbukaNaija: 9:03am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Weah96: This is one from someone who claims nature is conscious because man is conscious , if all life is obliterated from earth by asteroids , will nature still be conscious If so , explain |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by DeSepiero(m): 9:08am On Jun 16, 2016 |
Ebuka naija/blog is an idle and jobless troll seeking whom to engage. 1 Like |
Re: Nairaland athei potes probare contra Dei non-existentiam by sukkot: 9:52am On Jun 16, 2016 |
sweetcocoa: ECCLESIASTES 3 VS 18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. << HUMANS ARE BEASTS. HUMANS WHO DONT OBEY GODS WAY ARE CALLED BEASTS IN THE BIBLE. LOLZZZ I GUESS YOU DIDNT SEE THAT PART IN YOUR BIBLE ? WOMAN, SERPENT IS A CUNNY DUBIOUS EVIL MAN. CASE CLOSED. THIS BIBLE IS TOO STRONG FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND 1 Like |
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