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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:45am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:

I asked for 1941 to 1945
okay...m coming
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 1:46am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Can you provide any speech against atheism from 1941 to 1945 ? The dude spoke a lot with confidence so you might lay your hands on any .

Haha
He doesn't need to speak against atheists anymore since most atheists are not ready to die for their cause

They've either fled, been killed or joined his nazism
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 1:48am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


wawu . Bright mind . The memorandum was PUBLISHED at that time . It was in circulation since 1941 - did you skip this part or are you gona admit that its a knee-jerk post .


Circulated 1941 but published 1946? Your evidence that hitler is an atheist relies on some obscure nationalist socialist writing- while ignoring ACTUAL THEISTIC QUOTES BY HITLER HIMSELF. SHOW ME WHERE HITLER DENIED GOD HIMSELF!

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Go home and stop lying.
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:50am On Jul 30, 2016
JackBizzle:



Circulated 1941 but published 1946? Your evidence that hitler is an atheist relies on some obscure nationalist socialist writing- while ignoring ACTUAL THEISTIC QUOTES BY HITLER HIMSELF. SHOW ME WHERE HITLER DENIED GOD HIMSELF!

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Go home and stop lying.

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Hopefullandlord and raphiemontella please explain to your atheist friend that Hitler was anti-Christian during the latter part of His life .

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Na wa for you oo !!!! tongue
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 1:52am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


grin grin grin

Hopefullandlord and raphiemontella please explain to your atheist friend that Hitler was anti-Christian during the latter part of His life .

grin grin grin

Na wa for you oo !!!! tongue

He was antichristian but not antigod
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 1:52am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


I asked for 1941 to 1945
okay...m coming
But he who dares to use the word "God" for such
devilish activity blasphemes against Providence
and, according to our belief, he cannot end
except in destruction. Speech before the Reichstag 4 May 1941


From the time when the Movement I consisted of
seven men, until we took over power in January
1933, the path was so miraculous that only
Providence itself with its blessing could have
made this possible... Our enemies must not
deceive themselves—in the 2,000 years of German history known to us, our people have
never been more united than today. The Lord of
the Universe has treated us so well in the past
years that we bow in gratitude to a providence
which has allowed us to be members of such a
great nation. We thank Him that we also can be entered with honor into the ever-lasting book of
German history! Speech before Reichstag 11 December 1941

May therefore God give us the strength to
continue to do our duty and with this prayer we
bow in homage before our dead heroes, before
those whom they have left behind in
bereavement, and before all the other victims of
this war. Radio address 15 March 1942

1943 I, too, am religious; that is, religious deep inside,
and I believe that Providence weighs us human
beings, and that he who is unable to pass the test
of Providence but is destroyed by it has not been
destined for greater things. Speech delivered 8 November 1943;

1944 I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but
deep down I am a pious man, and believe that
whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural
laws framed by God and never capitulates will
never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in
the end, receive the blessings of Providence. Speech delivered on 5 July 1944;

The bomb which was planted by Colonel Count
von Stauffenberg burst two metres to my right. It
very seriously injured a number of associates
dear to me; one of them has died. I myself am
completely uninjured except for some very small
scrapes, bruises or burns. I regard it as a confirmation of my assignment from Providence
to continue to pursue my life's goal as I have
done hitherto. Radio broadcast 20 July 1944;

1945 God the Almighty has made our nation. By
defending its existence we are defending His
work. Radio address, 30 January 1945;
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:53am On Jul 30, 2016
@ jackBizzle

The memorandum was first published in The Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the [size=14pt]International Military Tribunal[/size],

You do realize that this strong tangible evidence.... right ?
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 1:58am On Jul 30, 2016
raphieMontella:

okay...m coming
But he who dares to use the word "God" for such
devilish activity blasphemes against Providence
and, according to our belief, he cannot end
except in destruction. Speech before the Reichstag 4 May 1941


From the time when the Movement I consisted of
seven men, until we took over power in January
1933, the path was so miraculous that only
Providence itself with its blessing could have
made this possible... Our enemies must not
deceive themselves—in the 2,000 years of German history known to us, our people have
never been more united than today. The Lord of
the Universe has treated us so well in the past
years that we bow in gratitude to a providence
which has allowed us to be members of such a
great nation. We thank Him that we also can be entered with honor into the ever-lasting book of
German history! Speech before Reichstag 11 December 1941

May therefore God give us the strength to
continue to do our duty and with this prayer we
bow in homage before our dead heroes, before
those whom they have left behind in
bereavement, and before all the other victims of
this war. Radio address 15 March 1942

1943 I, too, am religious; that is, religious deep inside,
and I believe that Providence weighs us human
beings, and that he who is unable to pass the test
of Providence but is destroyed by it has not been
destined for greater things. Speech delivered 8 November 1943;

1944 I may not be a light of the church, a pulpiteer, but
deep down I am a pious man, and believe that
whoever fights bravely in defense of the natural
laws framed by God and never capitulates will
never be deserted by the Lawgiver, but will, in
the end, receive the blessings of Providence. Speech delivered on 5 July 1944;

The bomb which was planted by Colonel Count
von Stauffenberg burst two metres to my right. It
very seriously injured a number of associates
dear to me; one of them has died. I myself am
completely uninjured except for some very small
scrapes, bruises or burns. I regard it as a confirmation of my assignment from Providence
to continue to pursue my life's goal as I have
done hitherto. Radio broadcast 20 July 1944;

1945 God the Almighty has made our nation. By
defending its existence we are defending His
work. Radio address, 30 January 1945;

this is your sauce bro . And it tastes nothing like credible . Do you realise that this source is the only one that contains these quotes ?

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 2:04am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


He was antichristian but not antigod

Which god ? Because from the memorandum , he clearly described his god as the "power of nature" . lipsrsealed
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 2:11am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
@ jackBizzle

The memorandum was first published in The Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the [size=14pt]International Military Tribunal[/size],

You do realize that this strong tangible evidence.... right ?


Evidence for what? Quotes that hitler did not make? grin
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 2:13am On Jul 30, 2016
JackBizzle:



Evidence for what? Quotes that hitler did not make? grin

Of Hitler's views !!!
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:15am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


I asked for 1941 to 1945
the last collection..
I am now as before a Catholic and will always
remain so. Adolf Hitler in 1941 to General Gerhart Engel.

I believe in God, and I am convinced that He will
not desert 67 million Germans who have worked
so hard to regain their rightful position in the
world. Statement to Ward Price.

You see, it's been our misfortune to have the
wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?(inside the third reich)
The Ten Commandments are a code of living to
which there's no refutation. These precepts
correspond to irrefragable needs of the human
soul; they're inspired by the best religious spirit,
and the Churches here support themselves on a
solid foundation. Evening 24th October 1941
.......ur quote which u brought sef is disputed on its authenticity..according to wikipedia...
The one abt christianity being invented by a sick brain
all theses i gave u
...re referrences to god...the belief in a being as the creator..smtin nt atheistic
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:18am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


this is your sauce bro . And it tastes nothing like credible . Do you realise that this source is the only one that contains these quotes ?

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
seriously u mean u dnt knw wikipedia has branches?...
Uve nt heard of wikihow before?...blood of moses...
Abeg enter am...reach ending..and see if its wikipedia or not...na wa
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:20am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

He was antichristian but not antigod
exactly...anti jewish christianity nt anti god
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:22am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


He discussed it with raphieMontella towards the precipice of his death . grin
lol...
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 2:25am On Jul 30, 2016
raphieMontella:

seriously u mean u dnt knw wikipedia has branches?...
Uve nt heard of wikihow before?...blood of moses...
Abeg enter am...reach ending..and see if its wikipedia or not...na wa

Lol ... its credibility is questionable a times thats why I rarely use it as my source . Hitler also redefined his view about God .- this explains his anti-Christian despicable acts. I also mentioned his atheist friends or myrmidons

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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by KingEbukaNaija: 2:26am On Jul 30, 2016
Yikes ! We'll continue in the morning abeg . Have a good sleep guys
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:41am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

Even the link one of them gave only said there were "rumours" of him being atheist

But guess what? In that same link he gave, there's a whole subheading given to his views that opposed atheism

They keep repeating "Hitler was an atheist" creating threads upon threads to that effect, they believe that if they repeat it a huge number of times, people would believe it when in fact Hitler is not atheist

So what my smart Christian did was to take "rumour" as "fact" while wishing away the true "fact" that he was against atheism while hoping we won't visit the link and read its contents, unfortunately for him, we did

Yet he calls us dumb? He must be dumber than dumb then
exactly...i repeated times witout number...read the links..they wudnt listen..
Ignorance at its peak brother...

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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:43am On Jul 30, 2016
naijadeyhia:



Hitler was not Religious.

Hitler was Anti-theist which is an arm of Atheism.

Anti-theist

This group regularly speaks out against religion and religious beliefs, usually by positioning themselves as “diametrically opposed to religious ideology,”

“Anti-theists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental,”. “The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions.”

Anti-theists are outspoken, devoted and – at times – confrontational about their disbelief. They believe that “obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another.

The above explains why Hitler was relentlessly brutal against Jews during the Holocaust. I think you need to research your Atheism....it is not Just as simple as disbelief in god or gods or higher powers. Its more detailed than that.


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/15/the-six-types-of-atheists/
jst look at what u are saying...someone who publicly condemned atheism an atheist..
Read those links properly man...u'd understand that hitler preferred islam to christians...christians were kinda shallow to him...hitler didnt hate other gods..jst the christiann god....
Someone who said my feelings point me to my god..smtin like that.
Thats why i said u shud read nazism....bt u wont...until u do u cant get the picture....for smone who banned atheistic activities an atheist..mehn ur thinking sef...
For someone who's nazi germany had sets of rules for worship in churches...they dnt jst believe in the idealogy of the jewish supernatural god...
Read up deism..u need to do ur research on nazism..i keep ringing it like a bell..yet..christianity is nt the only religion..
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by felixomor: 2:48am On Jul 30, 2016
raphieMontella:

pure evidence of a counterfeit brain...
Wallow in ignorance


At least Ignorance is still better than 'stubborn ignorance' (at work in u) which will continue to argue after its own evidence goes against him. Pathetic. grin
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:53am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Yikes ! We'll continue in the morning abeg . Have a good sleep guys
Good night...
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 2:54am On Jul 30, 2016
felixomor:



At least Ignorance is still better than 'stubborn ignorance' (at work in u) which will continue to argue after its own evidence goes against him. Pathetic. grin
u still didnt provide where it did so..
Willful blindness
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by felixomor: 2:56am On Jul 30, 2016
The funniest thing is that it is clearly written on the page "Hitler didnt believe in God".
But somebody saw it and said thats the "Christian God". Abeg tell me the type of 'god" he now believed in, if u say he believed, since u want to dribble like an olodo?
Mscheww!
Yeye dey smell shocked
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 3:08am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

Even the link one of them gave only said there were "rumours" of him being atheist

But guess what? In that same link he gave, there's a whole subheading given to his views that opposed atheism

They keep repeating "Hitler was an atheist" creating threads upon threads to that effect, they believe that if they repeat it a huge number of times, people would believe it when in fact Hitler is not atheist

So what my smart Christian did was to take "rumour" as "fact" while wishing away the true "fact" that he was against atheism while hoping we won't visit the link and read its contents, unfortunately for him, we did

Yet he calls us dumb? He must be dumber than dumb then
exactly...i repeated times witout number...read the links..they wudnt listen..
Ignorance at its peak brother...
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 3:22am On Jul 30, 2016
felixomor:
The funniest thing is that it is clearly written on the page "Hitler didnt believe in God".
But somebody saw it and said thats the "Christian God". Abeg tell me the type of 'god" he now believed in, if u say he believed, since u want to dribble like an olodo?
Mscheww!
Yeye dey smell shocked

it was written :according to bulllock..hitler didnt believe in god....and it happened to be in between two writings abt his detestion to jewish christians..the writer(bullock) is a christian...so invariably the god he knws and wud acknowledge as god is the christian god
..ts a biography...nt hitler's direct statement...u need to grab that...
I also asked u this...
If i were a sango worshipper..and u were to write my bio..what wud u write?..aint it raphiemontella didnt believe in god?...
N if i were to be a christian
...wont it be raphie believed in god?
Because u are a christain..if it was written by an islamist dnt u fink tthe second instance wud change to raphie didnt believe in god also?....

Hitler himself used his very own mouts to say he believed in god...he also made many referrences to god almighty and his lord...(a supreme of the world bt nt the one told by jews)
Hitler was a deist who practisd nazism..
If u can grab..grab...
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 5:23am On Jul 30, 2016
raphieMontella:


it was written :according to bulllock..hitler didnt believe in god....and it happened to be in between two writings abt his detestion to jewish christians..the writer(bullock) is a christian...so invariably the god he knws and wud acknowledge as god is the christian god
..ts a biography...nt hitler's direct statement...u need to grab that...
I also asked u this...
If i were a sango worshipper..and u were to write my bio..what wud u write?..aint it raphiemontella didnt believe in god?...
N if i were to be a christian
...wont it be raphie believed in god?
Because u are a christain..if it was written by an islamist dnt u fink tthe second instance wud change to raphie didnt believe in god also?....

Hitler himself used his very own mouts to say he believed in god...he also made many referrences to god almighty and his lord...(a supreme of the world bt nt the one told by jews)
Hitler was a deist who practisd nazism..
If u can grab..grab...

They wish we would just take their word for it

They've always hammered this thing over and over and I've always ignored, not because its correct but because I wanted them to dig the hole to be big, very big, so you could see now that asides "book" "screengrabs" they have no proof of him being atheist

Anywhere they "think" the proof is, all it shows is his antichristian stance, it also shows that he's not in support of atheism, he killed anyone against Nazism, be it Christians Muslim Judaism and atheist, he spared no one

So basically if Otemanuduno kills many jews and Christians and atheist too, these apologists would call him atheist since he is not in support of a general religious movement

What they didn't notice is that Nazism is a religion on its own just like Otemanuduno's UFO religion

It was dishonest Christians that couldn't call him a "Christian" or "Muslim" that quickly called him atheist

This intellectual dishonesty is what these guys are defending with conjecture and guesses when in fact scholars have not been able to call him atheist, just apologists websites (screengrab of Ebuka) and a book

"" Is he a Christian? No

Is he a Muslim? No

Is he a Buddhist? No

Therefore he's atheist, his words confirm that, words he said when he also said things against atheism (but that was "wished away" ) ""

That's the logic here

They all know more than scholars and have come to their conclusion and want all and sundry to accept their own conclusion as "fact"

Its really hilarious grin

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Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by felixomor: 5:37am On Jul 30, 2016
raphieMontella:


it was written :according to bulllock..hitler didnt believe in god....and it happened to be in between two writings abt his detestion to jewish christians..the writer(bullock) is a christian...so invariably the god he knws and wud acknowledge as god is the christian god
..ts a biography...nt hitler's direct statement...u need to grab that...
I also asked u this...
If i were a sango worshipper..and u were to write my bio..what wud u write?..aint it raphiemontella didnt believe in god?...
N if i were to be a christian
...wont it be raphie believed in god?
Because u are a christain..if it was written by an islamist dnt u fink tthe second instance wud change to raphie didnt believe in god also?....

Hitler himself used his very own mouts to say he believed in god...he also made many referrences to god almighty and his lord...(a supreme of the world bt nt the one told by jews)
Hitler was a deist who practisd nazism..
If u can grab..grab...

Ok which of the gods or god did he believe in? Muslim, greek or which?
Pls one answer, no dribbles this time.
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by hopefulLandlord: 5:43am On Jul 30, 2016
felixomor:


Ok which of the gods or god did he believe in? Muslim, greek or which?
Pls one answer, no dribbles this time.
You still didn't "grab"
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by felixomor: 5:53am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

You still didn't "grab"

I beg u,
U want to answer d question or u want to dribble again?

Abi is this not a simple enough question?
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 6:02am On Jul 30, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:


Of Hitler's views !!!


lol....there are hilter's own statements that show his views. But no, the liar that you are, you use obscure statements by others to show his views
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by JackBizzle: 6:35am On Jul 30, 2016
felixomor:


Ok which of the gods or god did he believe in? Muslim, greek or which?
Pls one answer, no dribbles this time.


You people (christians like ebuka and winner) are so dubious that you start to look silly in the eyes of normal people.


MUST GOD BE TIED TO A RELIGION?--- this is the first question you should have asked yourself. Do you know what deism is


And secondly, Hitler still believed in a christian notion of God. Afterall, he believed in doing the lord's work.


Let it be clear- he hated certain types of christianity that promoted ignorance and didnt respect the state's power. He was still very much a christian.
Re: The Absurdity Of Atheism - Article by raphieMontella: 7:27am On Jul 30, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


They wish we would just take their word for it

They've always hammered this thing over and over and I've always ignored, not because its correct but because I wanted them to dig the hole to be big, very big, so you could see now that asides "book" "screengrabs" they have no proof of him being atheist

Anywhere they "think" the proof is, all it shows is his antichristian stance, it also shows that he's not in support of atheism, he killed anyone against Nazism, be it Christians Muslim Judaism and atheist, he spared no one

So basically if Otemanuduno kills many jews and Christians and atheist too, these apologists would call him atheist since he is not in support of a general religious movement

What they didn't notice is that Nazism is a religion on its own just like Otemanuduno's UFO religion

It was dishonest Christians that couldn't call him a "Christian" or "Muslim" that quickly called him atheist

This intellectual dishonesty is what these guys are defending with conjecture and guesses when in fact scholars have not been able to call him atheist, just apologists websites (screengrab of Ebuka) and a book

"" Is he a Christian? No

Is he a Muslim? No

Is he a Buddhist? No

Therefore he's atheist, his words confirm that, words he said when he also said things against atheism (but that was "wished away" ) ""

That's the logic here

They all know more than scholars and have come to their conclusion and want all and sundry to accept their own conclusion as "fact"

Its really hilarious grin
i dn laff sotey i dn start to cry for them...they dnt want to agree that he was vividly against atheism...
They refuse to acknowledge that nazism was the religion itself..which its set of beliefs and rules for worship was a positive christianity....a form of christianity without jews and their god as the center of christianity...
Hitler was against the normal jewish christianity yes we all knw that...bt if that makes him an atheist..then boko haram,,isis,,islamists who have killed christians automatically turn to atheists in christian view..by their definition...and christians become atheists to islamists...is that not completely wrong?

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