This is a welcome development. It will help to make poly grads more valuable in the society.

Dancing shoki with my OND,HND,BSC,MSC,PGD,MTV,ITC,NTA AND AIT certificate Ogbeni business lo jawo joor

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The bane of Nigeria development is trivialization of issues. Each time the issue of HND/degree comes up, they quickly quote that the law establishing polytechnic state that it should produce middle level manpower and they fail to realise that as at the time this laws were made, the polytechnic was only producing ND and there was nothing like HND nor post HND as we have today. This same group of people with this line of thought are the very enemies of polytechnic education in Nigeria. They want the status quo to remain so that they can continue to brag, stampede and intimidate their coworkers who are HND graduates.

World over, the polytechnic system enjoys the same status as university and awards degree. If you doubt me check the dictionary meaning of a polytechnic you see for yourself. the only difference is that the two systems have different area of focus i .e polytechnic for Technology (applied Arts & Science) while university for research (academic subjects). As a matter of fact the polytechnic graduates are more remunerated than their university counterparts in countries like Germany etc

Unfortunately, here in Nigeria we have decided to be retarded because of self-centeredness and ego centrism. Just like the Medical doctors in Nigeria who had decided to always manipulated the government to come up with policies that will elevate them above other health workers such that they can perpetually suppress other health professionals, some elements within and outside the polytechnic system have decided that the polytechnic system will not have it right place in Nigeria.

Unfortunately for this group, things are gradually changing and this government has heeded the cries of HND graduates and the dichotomy has been removed. Let them continue to wail.

Now come to think of it, in terms of performance it's on record that the polytechnic graduates do better in ICAN for several years now than their university counter parts. Again how many Nigeria universities really have the state of the art facilities to carry out research? What meaningful researches have Nigeria universities generated over the years to help improve the socioeconomic condition of our people? In the area of teaching what quality of teachings actually emanate from our universities at least if they are that good it will reflect on their products.
This stereotypical thinking, egocentric and unnecessary power tussle that will do our nation no good must stop. I am not saying that the polytechnic system as its presently been run in Nigeria is perfect but I believe there is room for improvement if its properly run and given the right footing it deserve.

I have passed through both systems (University & Polytechnic) and other professional examination bodies, I must confess that the polytechnic system is not doing badly at all when juxtaposed.

God bless this government for heeding the call and bringing equity on the part of the HND graduates.
HND is equivalent to degree and not the same!

When the president has no certificate standard of education/certificate is bound to fall. He has no BSc and therefore does not know the value. Congratulations to HND holders though

I think this would not solve the problem, but am indeed happy for the poly guys, government got it all wrong with the establishment of poly, what should have been obtainable is to make technical oriented degrees only accessible in poly, where it becomes impossible to study Engineering in conventional universities, and everyone comes out with a BSC, just like MIT and caltech, including imperial college..if this plan falls through we all should get ready for a classification of universities in Nigeria by prospective employers.

Will this solve the problems of massive unemployment in this country?

Why are we laying much emphasis on certificate, forgetting the quality of graduates produced. Most of our tertiary institution borrow machines during accreditation, just for them to be accredited. My HOD then, had to mobilize Machines from his personal Fabrication shop just for the sake of accreditation. Who is Deceiving who.?

In the face of these challenges, this myopic government is busy equating certificates, instead of product quality.

I see ruins...

Interesting!

Wash!

greggng:


Does this mean I can now go for direct masters program with my hnd?

No, only for peeps that are just applying for hnd now

Next thing to do is to visit those Polys, screen out those lecturers that got their way into the system via family affiliation.


Yes... I kno wat I'm saying. I attended fedpoly ede, osun state... I used to have a lab technician (no name), he got his ND via part time while working as a gate man, His HND too via the same program...he has been employed as a lab technologist. This man was dictating to us one day, he pronounced BROCHURE as BAYRO, we were all confused, and ask him to spell it, only for him to say "B, R, O, C, H, U, R, E." Come and see laugh in my class that day...


Most of them enjoy speaking their local language than English

Often times the Ibos among us complains.. I used to feel for them..and if u hear their salary package u will open ur mouth

If this is true then it's a welcome development. Both Uni and Poly have remarkable and genius graduate as well as Olodo who also hide under certificate but can not perform in working environment after fvckin or blocking their way thru Skul. Now the ball have been set rolling, it will be all about what you can deliver and not type of certificate or school. Many Degree holders job are at stake cause so companies know Poly Hnd holders deliver more in some profession than Degree holders

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Na them sabi.noting concern me

The only CHANGE i saw in AFC

Barackmeringo:




No, only for peeps that are just applying for hnd now

You didnot understand my question. You know that bsc holders with upper division do go for masters straight but hnd holders will pass through pgd before going for masters. My ques is simple since the hnd and bsc re now equal according to this new development, will universities allow hnd holderrs do masters straight without pgd?

I want to make two points with respect to the dichotomy issue.

(1) Bsc and HND are two different tertiary educational qualifications, adopted to serve their respective relevant purposes in sundry fields of practice and as such there is a disparity between them but most importantly none is neither superior nor inferior to the other.

(2) The obliteration of this undesirable dichotomy should not end in paper work and media hype, the federal government should demonstrate this resolution in the civil service employment and promotion standards (equity for both classes of qualifications must be put in place).

My thoughts exactly. Maybe all HND Graduates should be re-issued with a new certificate bearing the decision

Abimloaded:
This removal of a thing is just an agreement And removal on Paper.
Go out there with your HND Certificate and let those who graduated in a university present their B.Sc Certificate then you'll know those firms, Companies haven't removed the whatever they call it 'cos they'll mostly prefer the B.Sc to the HND.

You may call the Adamu Adamu to come to your Aid if such happens to you!

kings09:
R u scared of the HND grads? Beta buckle up cos HND engineering guys r used to practicals alredy while the university is all about theory n paper drawings. The psychological superiority u enjoyed has bn removed so beta ginger/upgrade urslf

As a geologist,i see no competition. Although life's a race. I'm already at the touchline

greggng:


You didnot understand my question. You know that bsc holders with upper division do go for masters straight but hnd holders will pass through pgd before going for masters. My ques is simple since the hnd and bsc re now equal according to this new development, will universities allow hnd holderrs do masters straight without pgd?

I do brother.


You already have your hnd cert, so you don't qualify for it.

Only for new hnd graduands sir

I am a banker, a BM. I graduated from Polytechnic and in the process of employment, I dusted many BSc holders. Over 80,000 of us wrote the exam and only 550 were eventually employed bank wide. That was 2006.

Fast forward to today, I'm about to finish an Economics course at the University of Ibadan. If you know any UI graduate, the would tell you how tough Economics is in UI.

I can boldly say that there is no much difference in what I'm being taught now and what I had known before. In fact, my residual knowledge from the polytechnic has been very useful to my success in the current programme.

This policy by the FG should be taken a step further by establishing a bridge programme for existing HND holders to prepare them for MSc and ultimately PhD.

OK bro. We will all get thr, watever our desires in life. Amen

joshuaidibia:
As a geologist,i see no competition. Although life's a race. I'm already at the touchline

mamaafrik:
Some bsc holders wont be happy with this.........,the competition has just started,polys will start restructuring their system,less direct entry(only nce holders),less struggle for universities,university systems also will work on their structure because there will be no more "theory orientations",POLY PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER BUHARI AND BE GRATEFUL TO HIM,Selah.

Who told you? quote me next year, the dichotomy will be removed again next year, no be today den dey remove am, who no want better thing, most of our politicians ar university graduates even there children, they are just playing politics in every thing.

kings09:
R u scared of the HND grads? Beta buckle up cos HND engineering guys r used to practicals alredy while the university is all about theory n paper drawings. The psychological superiority u enjoyed has bn removed so beta ginger/upgrade urslf

I tell you. I'm a Graduate of OND in Chemical Engineering, I'm currently doing my 1year IT in NNPC, to be frankly a 400L student can't differentiat between a Pump and a Compressor and doesn't know their applications in the industry, buh I tried by all means in putting the student through.

mamaafrik:
Some bsc holders wont be happy with this.........,the competition has just started,polys will start restructuring their system,less direct entry(only nce holders),less struggle for universities,university systems also will work on their structure because there will be no more "theory orientations",POLY PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER BUHARI AND BE GRATEFUL TO HIM,Selah.

OBJ initiated it but it was halted by some nonentities immediately he left office.

BISIXCLUSIVE:
Who told you? quote me next year, the dichotomy will be removed again next year, no be today den dey remove am, who no want better thing, most of our politicians ar university graduates even there children, they are just playing politics in every thing.

lol. this one is very different o.

naijaboiy:
In my opinion, this is a good move. We should stop the degradation of HND graduates.

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exactly

kudos!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adewumiopeyemi:
BEFORE IT CAN WORK OUT HE GO TEY OOO just look at this if i go for an interview am a bsc holder..an d the person beside me is an hnd holder.. who they go take first no be bsc... even i go even be payed higher than them.....before it will work out will take a long time.. in upgrading the two together

very bad pidgin,I bet your standard English's gonna be so worst and yet you think you are a bsc holder. .You and bad English are like

This is ordinary paper work. Just to give polytechnic graduates hope. It's a cemented psychology Poly products can never be equal with that of University products.

Babysho:

Are you a BSC holder?

i know where you are driving out?