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Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 7:24pm On Sep 09, 2016
For over a decade now, the Niger deltan region has been agitating for increased national allocation from the federal government due to the fact that their region produces much of Nigerian revenue from Oil exploration.

Niger state on the other hand which is a state in the Central region of Nigeria has 2 of the powerful water dams in Nigeria which produces almost all the hydro electric power being used for the whole of Nigeria for so many decades now.
Now, another hydro power dam is being built in Mambilla, Taraba state, central Nigeria, and this dam is built to be the largest Hydropower station in Africa which will increase power for the whole Nigeria......

https://www.nairaland.com/3339922/engineers-begin-work-mambilla-hydro-power

The question is that since states in the Niger delta region are getting additional national allocation for their crude oil, what about Niger and Taraba states and their hydro electric power generation for the whole country??

Would they be wrong if they start a similar agitation?

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Decibel: 7:34pm On Sep 09, 2016
Is Taraba a North Central state?
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 7:37pm On Sep 09, 2016
Decibel:
Is Taraba a North Central state?

Taraba is north east geopolitically, but it is culturally middlebelt and geographically Central Niger area.

Taraba is not core hausa north. It is minority tribes dominated.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Decibel: 7:41pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:


Taraba is north east geopolitically, but it is culturally middlebelt and geographically Central Niger area.

Taraba is not core hausa north. It is minority tribes dominated.
Is Port Harcourt in South East?
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 7:50pm On Sep 09, 2016
Decibel:

Is Port Harcourt in South East?

GeoPolitically south south, regionally east/south, culturally i can't say

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by APCsupporter: 7:52pm On Sep 09, 2016
Not everyone is selfish

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Decibel: 7:54pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:


GeoPolitically south south, regionally east/south, culturally i can't say
The One Nigeria is a FRAUD!!

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by QuotaSystem: 8:05pm On Sep 09, 2016
Valid question.

I vote Yes to teach those greedy things a lesson. All they seek is something/someone to blame their backwardness on.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by LarryBeryl(m): 8:06pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:


GeoPolitically south south, regionally east/south, culturally i can't say


We are in a complicated country!!!! Let matters rest. and for your information, Englisticaly, Taraba is state in Nigeria.
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Decibel: 8:20pm On Sep 09, 2016
Wishful thinking.
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by EternalTruths: 8:34pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:
For over a decade now, the Niger deltan region has been agitating for increased national allocation from the federal government due to the fact that their region produces much of Nigerian revenue from Oil exploration.

Niger state on the other hand which is a state in the Central region of Nigeria has 2 of the powerful water dams in Nigeria which produces almost all the hydro electric power being used for the whole of Nigeria for so many decades now.
Now, another hydro power dam is being built in Mambilla, Taraba state, central Nigeria, and this dam is built to be the largest Hydropower station in Africa which will increase power for the whole Nigeria......

https://www.nairaland.com/3339922/engineers-begin-work-mambilla-hydro-power

The question is that since states in the Niger delta region are getting additional national allocation for their crude oil, what about Niger and Taraba states and their hydro electric power generation for the whole country??

Would they be wrong if they start a similar agitation?

I support and I believe every sincere SE/SS person supports
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by aventura: 8:38pm On Sep 09, 2016
Is hydroplant now a natural resource? Some people sha

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Noneroone(m): 8:50pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:
For over a decade now, the Niger deltan region has been agitating for increased national allocation from the federal government due to the fact that their region produces much of Nigerian revenue from Oil exploration.

Niger state on the other hand which is a state in the Central region of Nigeria has 2 of the powerful water dams in Nigeria which produces almost all the hydro electric power being used for the whole of Nigeria for so many decades now.
Now, another hydro power dam is being built in Mambilla, Taraba state, central Nigeria, and this dam is built to be the largest Hydropower station in Africa which will increase power for the whole Nigeria......

https://www.nairaland.com/3339922/engineers-begin-work-mambilla-hydro-power

The question is that since states in the Niger delta region are getting additional national allocation for their crude oil, what about Niger and Taraba states and their hydro electric power generation for the whole country??

Would they be wrong if they start a similar agitation?
keep your hydro power whatever to yourself let the owners of the oil keep it too. Let each manage their resources and generate their own power. Is that difficult?

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Sealeddeal(m): 9:10pm On Sep 09, 2016
OP, is Hydropower classified as one of the natural resources in Nigeria?

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 9:47pm On Sep 09, 2016
Sealeddeal:
OP, is Hydropower classified as one of the natural resources in Nigeria?
aventura:
Is hydroplant now a natural resource? Some people sha

Waterfalls and all water bodies are nature's endowments. They can be classified together with Natural rescources.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by aventura: 10:00pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:



Waterfalls and all water bodies are nature's endowments. They can be classified together with Natural rescources.
but money was ploughed into the water falls in the creation of dams. It's not like the water fall itself generates electricity on it's own.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by Nobody: 10:04pm On Sep 09, 2016
aventura:
Is hydroplant now a natural resource? Some people sha
No its an unnatural resource. In fact it is man made

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by arewafederation: 10:08pm On Sep 09, 2016
aventura:
but money was ploughed into the water falls in the creation of dams. It's not like the water fall itself generates electricity on it's own.

Crude oil didn't just start gushing from nowhere, did it?

Money was also used in the exploration of crude oil.

I think this issue should be looked at critically by the people of North Central.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by aventura: 10:13pm On Sep 09, 2016
arewafederation:


Crude oil didn't just start gushing from nowhere, did it?

Money was also used in the exploration of crude oil.

I think this issue should be looked at critically by the people of North Central.
money from where? And don't forget there are other ways of building a dam that doesn't invovle the situation of a water fall.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by cjrane: 11:21pm On Sep 09, 2016
[size=15pt]I think the north should ask for derivation for the North-East trade winds that blow from Sahara desert to the southern Nigeria. Afterall it brings harmattan to southern Nigeria.

As long as the North-east trade wind is useful internationally and sold to get foreign exchange, and proceeds go into the federation account for sharing to every state and LGA, they are free to get 100% derivation if they want.

Wicked ediots!
[/size]grin grin grin

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by aribisala0(m): 11:27pm On Sep 09, 2016
The River Niger has its origin in Guinea not Nigeria

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by arewafederation: 11:40pm On Sep 09, 2016
aventura:
money from where? And don't forget there are other ways of building a dam that doesn't invovle the situation of a water fall.

Money from where you asked? Silly you.

Whatever situation you are referring to,it requires water which is part of the natural resources of the inhabitants of the area.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by aribisala0(m): 11:44pm On Sep 09, 2016
Actually the water originates in Guinea and flows through several states in Nigeria not one. At any rate the hydroelectric power plants are not the major contributors to power.
Kainji Dam was built on condition that a major chunk of power goes to Niger republic. If any of the countries upstream decides to divert the Niger what can we do about it

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 11:46pm On Sep 09, 2016
aventura:
but money was ploughed into the water falls in the creation of dams. It's not like the water fall itself generates electricity on it's own.


Money was also invested in crude oil exploration and refinning

aventura:
money from where? And don't forget there are other ways of building a dam that doesn't invovle the situation of a water fall.

What other ways can hydro electric power be generated from water apart from waterfalls?

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by SpicyJosBabe(f): 11:48pm On Sep 09, 2016
aribisala0:
Actually the water originates in Guinea and flows through several states in Nigeria not one. At any rate the hydroelectric power plants are not the major contributors to power.
Kainji Dam was built on condition that a major chunk of power goes to Niger republic. If any of the countries upstream decides to divert the Niger what can we do about it

Not all the hydro power stations have their source in the river Niger. The one to be built in Taraba does not have its source in River Niger.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by tit(f): 11:53pm On Sep 09, 2016
the north should cease the electricity.
if i am a boy from there, i will go and switch off the electric till they pay us.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by timeman: 11:58pm On Sep 09, 2016
SpicyJosBabe:



Waterfalls and all water bodies are nature's endowments. They can be classified together with Natural rescources.
What is the foreign exchange value of the dams?
the truth has spoken!

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by timeman: 12:05am On Sep 10, 2016
aventura:
money from where? And don't forget there are other ways of building a dam that doesn't invovle the situation of a water fall.
In your thinking oil was exploited through straw. Kiddies everywhere.
Kiss the truth!

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by VulgarVulvas: 12:08am On Sep 10, 2016
QuotaSystem:
Valid question.

I vote Yes to teach those greedy things a lesson. All they seek is something/someone to blame their backwardness on.

Keep your damn kanji damn for yourselves.

If you like stop supplying electricity to ND and SE.

It's not as if the electricity is provided free to us.

We have a sea of natural gas to easily generate 50,000 MW.


Keep your Yeye damn electricity and give us full resource control and see if we have time for kanji dam.

Ughelli gas plant produces more electrify consistently than kanji that only operates near full capacity during the rainy season.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by VulgarVulvas: 12:13am On Sep 10, 2016
tit:
the north should cease the electricity.
if i am a boy from there, i will go and switch off the electric till they pay us.

ughelli gas plant produces more electricity to the grid than your kanji dam.

ughelli gas plant has as at today an installed capacity of 972MW

While Kanji can manage a maximum of 960MW.

Keep your dam to yourselves.

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Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by timeman: 12:17am On Sep 10, 2016
arewafederation:


Crude oil didn't just start gushing from nowhere, did it?

Money was also used in the exploration of crude oil.

I think this issue should be looked at critically by the people of North Central.
Re: Should Midbelt/north States ask For National Derivation From Hydropower Supply? by malton: 12:20am On Sep 10, 2016
undecided

Madam, you sef really like dey look for trouble.

I'll advise that you stick to showcasing pictures.

Politics is not for everybody.

This is a public forum for pets sake. This may draw people's attention to ills they hitherto never thought about. Na so small time we go begin hear say dem Niger State get militants.

Y'all should seek better and effective ways of refraining boredom rather than stirring up hornets' nest at all times. Haba!

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