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Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by reallest(f): 9:54am On Sep 26, 2016 |
tete7000:Since I don't believe in him in d first place,it will make more sense if he reveal himself first |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by tete7000(m): 10:01am On Sep 26, 2016 |
reallest: Since that's what you desire, you will see him someday. When? I can't say but I believe in line with your desire, you will one day have a great encounter with him. I hope you won't chicken out when he does. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 10:02am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 10:05am On Sep 26, 2016 |
beolay2k: Jesus Christ is God. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by joe4christ(m): 10:05am On Sep 26, 2016 |
armpit: You're one hell of a funny dude Can you please provide footage evidence of your claim, even pictorial evidence (not photoshoped) would do. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 10:08am On Sep 26, 2016 |
segcymoor: Thanks. Yes. As a matter of fact I do. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 10:27am On Sep 26, 2016 |
reallest: Oh, come now. Do you know the mathematical probability of a single simple protein assembling by chance? It is 1 : 1074 A single protein. Evidence of Him is everywhere if one is sincere Be sincere. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by armpit: 10:35am On Sep 26, 2016 |
joe4christ:unfortunately, pictorial or video evidence though possible for me to get, would take my time... but believe me I have seen all those happen. Even I, get baffled at first. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by juniweezy(m): 10:46am On Sep 26, 2016 |
Zenlife:so what makes you believe the pope. Because it suits your belief.. Well believe what you want. In the end you will find out! |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by donnffd(m): 10:50am On Sep 26, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I understand you perfectly but i would say i am still not totally convinced about your argument. If i was going to create an intelligent car for my pleasure, i would be sure to not give it freewill because doing that, i am no longer subjecting it to my will but its own, and so if it chooses to not obey my commands, then it is well within its rights to do so. Now on the flip side of the coin, imagine you love a girl with all your heart, and can do anything for her but sadly she doesnt feel the same way about you, Do you lock her up in a dungeon and torture her because she doesnt love you?...only a psychopath would do that. Look at another scenario, a queen who never shows herself to her subjects and remain hidden for the public eye claims she doesnt need anybodys love and admiration, but every sunday, all her subjects are required to show love and admiration to her with gifts, and those who do not do that are thrown into a dungeon she ordered built for that specific purpose and torture them till they die. The idea of we being tools for God fails when freewill is thrown into the equation, because as a free agent you choose whether you want to be a tool or not, and if you are punished because you choose otherwise, then obviously the choice is there to override the freewill. What i mean is if i offer you two choices, and one of those choices leds to a severe punishment but you are free to choose anyone, i am automatically trying to override your freewill because i am forcing you to choose the choice without punishment. So if God really wanted us as tools, he shouldnt have given us freewill, and if he wanted free agents to be tools for him, he shouldnt threaten with the punishment of hell because then he no longer have free agents. Thats the paradox, bro... 3 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Zenlife: 11:24am On Sep 26, 2016 |
juniweezy: The Pope? Because he is the HNIC of Christianity on earth take it or leave it. So what he says goes a very stretched long way. Research, read Christian religious history. Self educate, don't just be content with what your pastor or even your bible is interpreted by many to mean. Am certain you have no knowing of the history of the creation of Christianity. Be at least Google friendly. Truth actually sets you free. Heaven and hell: As you've found out right? Obviously you have reached your end, from your words. So kindly share your experiences in the hell furnace and glorious heaven. Do kindly indulge this learned forum. Am o grab my easy chair and campari on the rocks. Brb. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Zenlife: 11:35am On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic: If that was an off-topic response then you simply cannot read. Then why waste your time writing to me? Another off cognitive response. Or write for that matter. (This one just replies itself.) I must be scribbling prof. People probably laugh at your Americanisms in real life. Glad you recognize it and envious of it. Obviously you can't git there and never will. Hope your kite flying tickles you. If not try getting in the sand reversely. Go play in the dirt again child. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 11:40am On Sep 26, 2016 |
donnffd: By this argument every government in the world is a tyrannical dictatorship. Since we face punishment when our choices diverge from the law. Do you agree? |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by donnffd(m): 12:04pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic: The law is how you conduct in society, if you default, you are thrown in prison...it has nothing to do with loving the government. God wants you not only to live a good life but also love him and accept his son who died for our sins, now if you dont do this, you would burn in hell even if you were a good person all your life...doesnt that sound tyrannical to you? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by raphieMontella: 12:42pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic:how can you confidently come to the internet and say that gravity has no emperical proof? Are you not ashamed? You're asking me what emperical evidence is That questionn is for you...man upgrade your knowledge...it will help you you even confidently said that there's no emperical evidence that the earth is a globe?? How do you guys even think? Edited.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Nobody: 1:06pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
reallest:i believe in just one. But for someone like u who is confused and doesnt know which God to serve i suggest u try all because d bible says test all powers and see if they are of God. So let go d pride dat can kill you and find God quickly before its too late |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Nobody: 2:36pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Some theists on here keep quoting and bringing me back to this thread, I don't really know what your problems are. Please, stop that. Whatever I wrote there is clear enough to any who can think/reason logically. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by johnydon22(m): 3:25pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
yeyeboi:LOL |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 3:40pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
donnffd: Divine Law is the rule of conduct in the Universe. When you reject God you are immediately under the devil's influence. By default. The government wants you to obey its authority. If you don't, there are consequences. Go smoke crack by Louis Edet House and tell the officers there 'you're a good person'. The scenarios are parallel. Please don't prevaricate. Answer the question if you can. Is it not obvious that the spirit in you yields to the authority of man, but not of God? Why are the government not tyrants according to your opinion? |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 3:49pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
raphieMontella: You can run your mouth all day long. But you will be unable to provide a single shred of observable, verifiable evidence for all you've said. You believe what you believe because you heard it in a classroom, and then on TV. This is trust. This is not empiricism. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by donnffd(m): 4:01pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic: I just answered you and i would answer you again, the government are not tyrants because they do not force you to love them, infact oppressive regimes are specifically referred to as tyrants because they force their citizens to accept their right to rule. Rules are rules, if buhari leaves office tomorrow, the rules of the country would still be the rules, everyone is suppose to follow it so that we dont live in a chaotic society. Now, if buhari puts an embargo on Nigerians, that in addition to the laws of the land, we must love him and his party and if we dont, we would be thrown in jail, thats TYRANNY. Do you understand the difference now? Now why cant people just live good lives, Majority of Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Taoists, and even Atheists are good people and just want to do good by themselves and their fellow man BUT because they do not believe in your God YAHWEH(i would assume you to be a Christian) and his only begotten son JESUS CHRIST, they would burn in hell for all of eternity. why cant God just allow people live by the rule book and judge people according to how they lived, why must God emphasize that these people believe, love and worship him and his son for entry into heaven? Doesnt that sound like tyranny? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 5:15pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
donnffd: Every government on Earth requires citizens to 'accept its right to rule'. This is enforced by threat of violence and imprisonment. Is 'treason' a new word to you? This supports my argument. donnffd: Be honest. Many of government's laws are not understood, but are still obeyed (e.g. marriage only lasts a month, but Mr Man has to pay alimony for life). And the same man will balk at obeying God because he 'does not understand'. Hypocrisy. Be honest. People are chided and victimized for not loving their country. In fact, the southeasterners of your own (I assume) country are in this very position. donnffd: Do you know if you toss some pork sausage in front of a mosque you could easily be dead? And if you dropped some beef before a Buddha statue in India, the result could be the same? What chaos. So what rule book, precisely? Someone must define what the standard of Good is. Babies cry when given an injection. If they knew its purpose, they might rejoice. We are babes in God's eyes. Thus people cry over His medicine, because they do not know its purpose. Christianity is the One Faith, the one standard, the precise one 'rule book'. And He is not only my God, He is God - plain and simple. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by UyiIredia(m): 5:36pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
The idea of hell contradicts God's love. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by donnffd(m): 6:00pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic: Still did not answer my question! Let me ask again, why doesnt God judge people on how they lived on earth without considering whether they believed in him or not, and not burn them for all of ETERNITY in hell? NB: you hardly see buddhists in india, and if i were to urinate on a cross or use the bible to smoke weed, i would still be criticized by christians, wont i?, So you cant cherrypick and say because a person from another religion gets offended because you dishonored his beliefs automatically means yours is the one true religion, thats just absolutely inaccurate. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Nobody: 7:16pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Another thread to glorify an appalling doctrine peppered with sheer abhorrence. Scaring atheists will not bring them closer to God. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by raphieMontella: 7:17pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic:god..do you even know how gravity works? Time zones? Bros...how you go they talk this kind thing... Gravity keeps you to the ground... |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Nobody: 7:24pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
raphieMontella:The guy is probably a flat earth conspiracist. 1 Like |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 7:35pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
donnffd: 1. It is you who have dodged a question. Are you tyrannized because the consequence of crime is government force? 2. Violence was not my point. My point was that different perspectives on what is good must lead to conflict. So which 'rule book' would you suggest? |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by maximunimpact(m): 7:40pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
[quote author=shadeyinka post=49674266]Your understanding of the scripture needs reevaluation! It is your own apostacised understanding that needs the light of truth.......... You can go ahead and worship based on lies, i stick to the truth knowing that God is love. I suppose you are a father, can you place the hand of your rebellious child on fire for 10mins to punish him? if u feel you can't subject your child to that inhuman chastisement, what makes you think the God of love will place you in hell fire burning for eternity, i said you cos if it exists as you believe, then thats your final dwelling cos you are a SINNER. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by maximunimpact(m): 7:41pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
shadeyinka: It is your own apostacised understanding that needs the light of truth.......... You can go ahead and worship based on lies, i stick to the truth knowing that God is love. I suppose you are a father, can you place the hand of your rebellious child on fire for 10mins to punish him? if u feel you can't subject your child to that inhuman chastisement, what makes you think the God of love will place you in hell fire burning for eternity, i said you cos if it exists as you believe, then thats your final dwelling cos you are a SINNER. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by gaelllic: 7:54pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Tell us then, boy genius. Tell us the physical mechanism by which mass attracts mass. lordnicklaus: The taunts will come and come. The mouths will run and run. But a single testable phenomenon proving the theory will never arrive. They think 'science' means 'men in eyeglasses saying clever-sounding things'. They think 'truth' means 'stuff I heard on TV'. |
Re: Why Does God Create People When He Knows They Are Going To Hell? by Nobody: 8:23pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
gaelllic: Well, I am not "atheist". The questions you asked is the same as asking for the evidence of motion or radiation. |
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