Lennycool:

Nobody is asking what you did. But what did your God do for them

felixomor:


If u like keep trying to forceffully add people to ur fold,
An agnostic is one thousand times better than atheist.
Dont even try to mash them up like ur colleague was trying to do just now.


Moreover if i had a dubious mind like u guys, i would create threads to explain how atheists who give to charity are using it for selfish reasons.
But i wont do that.



And then who told u "nigerian pastors' are the model for christianity?

felixomor:


If u like keep trying to forceffully add people to ur fold,
An agnostic is one thousand times better than atheist.
Dont even try to mash them up like ur colleague was trying to do just now.


Moreover if i had a dubious mind like u guys, i would create threads to explain how atheists who give to charity are using it for selfish reasons.
But i wont do that.



And then who told u "nigerian pastors' are the model for christianity?

4everGod:



Why quote scriptures you deny its source? smh

Pathetic!

Lennycool:


They both don't believe in God, but one side isn't sure if he exist or not.

hopefulLandlord:


I swear the guy disappoint me

he doesn't even seem to know and understand the discussion

he just went "okay my god didn't do this cuz bla bla bla bla" then went "what have you done?"

he can't even see the irony staring him in the face

he's just buttressing the points OP made indirectly

felixomor:


I can see how u clearly left out the first part of my post.
Well done.

By the way, Why are u interchanging personal situations like the exams u were using as example before with general global conditions like war-torn starving children?

JSoE:
Lmao @christains

Nice thread, Lennycool. As expected,they came down in droves to defend the selfishness in their religion.

They won't do anything helpful about the poor children but to send them [b]INEDIBLE[\b] bibles and prayers that don't do shi.t

SMH.

felixomor:


The fact that they admit they are not certain makes a whole world of difference.
Yeah.

Lennycool:
He should say what God has done for them na

winner01:
Oya nau. gather your brothers lennycool, hopefulLandlord, hahn and co and go kill it.

frank317:
@ flexiomor...

Let me give u an example.

Boko haram kidnapped girls and you blame it on bad Islamic extremists. You guys go as far as asking if it was God that kidnapped them or men.
But when soldiers work hard and rescue the girls...you guys suddenly remember that it is God and not men that orchestrated the rescue. You give God the glory just because the out come it positive. It's not longer the handiwork of men.

Then you confused lots like winner01 goes turned around and say we should thank God (blame him) when good and evil happens. He mentioned it in this thread that he thanks God in tears and Joy.

Yet you accused atheists for blaming God for evil, when that's what you guys do. I just don't get it.

bennyann:


That's your creator speaking to you. Those are not my words. What a life! No one understands the language of love anymore. Or is it English you don't understand?

You're sounding as if HE told you to choose hell. If I should try understanding your meme, it means you've chosen hell already and you're blaming God or me for for your choice. What a life! Come on, you're smarter and far more intelligent than me.

jonbellion:
Lol

frank317:
@ flexiomor...

Let me give u an example.

Boko haram kidnapped girls and you blame it on bad Islamic extremists. You guys go as far as asking if it was God that kidnapped them or men.
But when soldiers work hard and rescue the girls...you guys suddenly remember that it is God and not men that orchestrated the rescue. You give God the glory just because the out come it positive. It's not longer the handiwork of men.

Then you confused lots like winner01 goes turned around and say we should thank God (blame him) when good and evil happens. He mentioned it in this thread that he thanks God in tears and Joy.

Yet you accused atheists for blaming God for evil, when that's what you guys do. I just don't get it.

Lennycool1:
I doubt that as a christian you've ever truly thought about the very flawed logic of God answering your everyday trivial prayers.

People ask God for mundane things like
Passing exams
Marrying
Getting a job
Making money
Sunny weather


The list goes on and on and apparently you can ask God for anything(though it doesn't mean he'll always answer you) and when you do get what you asked for, no matter how trivial your request was, you'll instantly think God did it.

"My God has done it for me" is a very popular sentence for the religious, but what they fail to understand is that the moment you claim God answered your prayers it means he left these people

frank317:


I clearly left out the first part of your post because it answer one part of my question... It it didn't answer why you blame men instead of God when evil happens.


My examples could be exams or starving kids... It does not change anything.if u have no answer for me just say so already.

Again, if you blame God for positive out comes that we obviously see the hand of man in it, why not blame God for nagative actions we see the hand of man in it.

Or why not blame man for positive out come because we see his handiwork and as well blame man for nagative outcomes because we see his handiwork.

EyeHateGod:

Agnosticism is Not A believe System

felixomor:


Even God commends and rewards man because he knows man plays vital roles in positives.

Nobody is saying man has no role to play in positives.
Because thats how u keep trying to make it sound.

What u keep Failing to see is ur bias copulsive tendencies to say God must fix every visible negative irrespective of the outcome to others.

Thats why i mentioned the flood earlier.
For example, If God decides to kill all evil people now to rid this world of the wickedness that is causing the wars starving these children, even you talking now will not survive. Because your hands are not clean

So if God continues to spare the lives of sinners (which includes you) and evils like these persist?
How is it His fault?

winner01:
lol. A non existent person cant be wicked.

I'm not sure you people really disbelieve in God's existence.

felixomor:


Who is arguing that?
I am telling u what they admit.

Not like u who says he is 100℅ sure

felixomor:


God has already done his part by creating u and giving u the potential to eradicate poverty and disease.
You do your part.

frank317:


That's not all na... He also helped winner01 find his trouser... The question is, why didn't he also help the hungry kids

winner01:
God permits evil temporarily.

If God creates life, and takes back what he created. How do you come into the picture
Until you understand that God is sovereign, i dont think our discussion will ever make sense.

EyeHateGod:

Agnosticism can't Stand alone that's Why it must either Be Agnostic Atheist or Agnostic theist the "Gnosticism" there Is just to signify "Knowledge" and not Believe. You can be Agnostic on Anything, You can even be Agnostic on the Kind of Clothes you want to buy

Lennycool:

Like the Devil said to Arnold

"God just has good publicity"

felixomor:


Helping those kids is your responsibility.
If u do your part well, they wont be there.

Lennycool1:
Pictures of starving children in the Biafra war was said to be what made Steve Jobs(cofounder of apple) turn to an atheistic religion. He couldn't understand why any God with a drop of human sympathy would let people suffer like this.
All those seriously sick and starving people, people with real problems that he could have helped. He left all of them to help you pass an exam, marry, get a job, get more money, have a car e.t.c
If your situation isn't immediately life threatening and you said God answered your prayer, then God is a misanthropic being.
Some people will claim that these people were not children of God, or that is the work of the devil, or that this earth does not matter.

I'll ask all those people to think about what they are saying
These children live in the poorest of poor countries, they have no education, no food, no clean water and for some no parents, the missionaries don't even want to go to these war ravaged places and when they do they only cover a small territory, so most of these people have never even heard of Jesus or even Yahweh. They never had a chance to hear God's word.
They're too busy trying to survive with nothing. But they are still children of God right? So why would he let them suffer more than any human ever should, I'm sure some of them wished they were never born into this life, but they were

And you say God got you a job, a car, a house, admission, more money. Do you now understand while its stupid to say God answered your prayer? That he left all these suffering people and wasted his power on you and your irrelevant need..
In a world with God and pastors with jets this should not exist.


God either does not exist or he is Malevolent


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Lennycool:

Nobody is asking what you did. But what did your God do for them