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Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by darqly(m): 2:39pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
@vwvw and omo ibo- I assume you both are gentlemen of the press? To put it succintly, your colleagues "NO DEY TRY". Little or no effort is put into their articles i.e depth, background and veracity. The worse part is that the grammar and spelling leaves much to be desired; I actually nitpick through most writeups and articles I come across and I daresay the writers and editors are either lazy, incompetent or BOTH. Sagamite only picked 3 articles, I can make a whole journal with clippings of journalistic gaffe in just under a week. The sports columnists are no better: I read the match report of UTD V Liverpool on skysports.com or bbcnews(i forget which) and the following day, in the sport pages of thisday- voila- COPY and PASTE, verbatim. And the crappy reporter had the effrontery to include his name. If i recall, the term for that is plagiarism. What really irks me is the use of the term "Name Witheld" in almost every article that has to do with the so called powers that be. What then is your sacrosant duty if you cannot present the facts to society without fear or favour? My friends, your beloved 4th estate of the realm is lying prone, far as Nigeria is concerned. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 2:55pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
well presenting the facts without fear or fervour every time would get you killed. I am not saying that there are neither errors nor shortcomings but to say an editor or reporter made a gaffe and you label him a slowpoke for his entire life is a silly assessment. My friend i have done stories and interviews afterward the interviewee walked up to me saying in clear terms, " don't use that track" and he wasn't throwing kid gloves. when Nuhu Ribadu in a fit said the lawmakers are sleeping because they wanted to amend the EFFC act; i was there and Ribadu apologized saying "don't use that track i was angry." the following day all national dailies read, RIBADU SAYS LAWMAKERS ARE SLEEPING there have been several of such incidences, friend. but then everyone isn't as genial and cordial as Ribadu; ask Bayo ohu and Dele Giwa. several journalists have families and face huge risks while reporting, worse still they aren't paid well. AIT hasn't paid salaries in 5 months. yet the pressmen toil harder than several vocations, i dare you to fault my claims. several of the industries practitioners were not trained in NUJ or mass communication departments, likewise thousands of yoruba and english graduates that work in banks. i am a trained urban and regional planner but i can assure you that the housing and environment industry is in shambles and in your estimation FIT NO DEY TRY LIKE THE POLICE [/b]and nearly every sphere of society wears a cloak of uncertainty. but then who are you to COMPLAIN, ask the policeman and fireman on the streets about their welfare and friend you will weep for this nation. So fellow, my summation is this, [b]the GENTLEMEN OF NIGERIAN PRESS DEY TRY WELLA |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by darqly(m): 3:53pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Friend, there are only so many of you that can or will be killed for telling it as it is; I believe it's one of the hazards of the job. You knew this full well before you signed your offer letter, unless you forgot to read the fine print. I do not trivialise the deaths of reporters whilst in the course of their duties, Bayo's death shocked me immensely but they can't kill you ALL, and you won't get killed ALL the time for proper investigative, authoritative journalism. Are you in management yet? Your editors are too timid i think, or the board is composed of JUDASES. That aside, the least a reporter can offer is fewer errors and more research to back up his work. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by canuck(m): 6:44pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
@ Poster While I share your pain regarding naija journalists and their contraptions called articles, I think you missed it by a mile. You called out 2 shortcomings in the article: 1) Failing to specify what state Adatan-Asero road is located; 2) Failing to say why the road is important Here's where you went wrong: 1) When a journalist writes his/her name "Olayinka Olukoya" and location "Abeokuta" beneath a headline, the news is generally local unless otherwise stated. So the road is in Abeokuta. (Residents please confirm as I've only been to the city once, and over 15 years ago); 2) Here are two quotes from the article that confirm the significance of the road - (a) "Bankole said federal roads remained pivotal to business activities of the people." (b) The road's ". . .erosion had been threatening residential buildings." Am I missing something? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by goggs(m): 10:55pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
@ Sagamite
Mr Sagamite, dont believe everything you read in the papers and most importantly NEVER ASSUME even if it appears 'reasonable' as you put it. Read the judgment for your self man and stop quoting from political stories where issues are most likely distorted. The prosecution could not prove it was for personal gain. Why/ i don't know. I wish they could. So since that didnt come up, the long sentences for Bode and his co travelers didnt happen. The judge passed sentences on the prosecution prayers. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by naijatoday: 11:09pm On Oct 29, 2009 |
Dis Guy: This is one of the problems with Nigerian Newspapers. Another thing I have noticed is that a lot of them do copy and paste story. The receive and email and paste it word for word and the crazy thing is when you pick up 5-6 newspapers the next day they all have the same story, word for word with each journalist claiming credit for writing the story . And to make it worse they do not tell the public that the story was a statement (publicity) by the company and the journalistsput their name on the story like they wrote it. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 5:12am On Oct 30, 2009 |
These two quacks could not engage their brain to provide details for their audience how the deregulation would affect the protesters. What argument is being postulated by the protesters to indicate it is illegal? How would it cause hardship? A group of people bring your capital to a standstill and the press do not deem it fit to explain in detail why? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 5:22am On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: slowpoke, where did you see me saying this is standard reporting? What do they feed you and Omo Ibo type that is affecting your brain? . . . . . .Saw dust? vwvw: Why the Bleep are you telling me this? What relevance does it have to my points? Or are you saying it is because of good delivery that people are shifting their source of news? Basically they are seeking poor delivery? Are you retarded? vwvw: OK, you are retarded. So the information is everywhere in Nigeria but the Nigerian papers that are online should not include it for the hundreds of their audience in diaspora or non-Nigerians that might be interested in current affairs or a foreign student doing research on Nigeria? Genius you are! You are of the same ilk as your colleagues. *morons plenty!* |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 5:23am On Oct 30, 2009 |
Dis Guy: Such moronic incompetence is what this vwvw want to come and defend. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 5:30am On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: So I am right in calling them quacks? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 6:25am On Oct 30, 2009 |
canuck: My Guy, I don't know what they teach them in NUJ or courses in university, but common sense would tell me that clarity should be a foundation for news reporting and quality journalism, not passing the onus of figuring out by requesting assumptions from your millions of audiences when it is sooooooooooooo easy to provide the unambigious information. Even YOU are still asking residents to confirm your assumptions for you when the journalist can just say "in south east part of the city of Abeokuta". It shouldn't be that hard. Simple, simple things. In regards to (2), poor journalism has also resulted in him not structuring and giving specific information. Even in the corporate world, if I was to detail a change in a memo, I would have a section stating reasons clearly e.g. The road appears to be priority because of its link between A and B that are commercial hubs in the State hence supporting the focus of federal roadworks on blah blah blah, futhermore, erosions on it have been threatening residential buildings blah blah blah. Not some generalistic statements like "Bankole said federal roads remained pivotal to business activities of the people". Good journalists do not make their audience work to understand issues. They dissect, analyse and present it in a manner for easy consumption. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 6:29am On Oct 30, 2009 |
naijatoday: And the quack Editors do nadder! I am not saying do not copy and paste (resources might be limited to the publication) but have some shame and reference the source. Don't be claiming credit in this era where simple google of a sentence would catch you out. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 6:32am On Oct 30, 2009 |
ThisDay still has for 4 years, on their homepage website, the same pictures of an event (Music festival) they sponsored back then like if it is still the ish. Probably they would change it in another 10 years when they realise it is old news. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 10:25am On Oct 30, 2009 |
@Sagamite. Now there are many things that do not ring right in Nigeria and one of them is; though the Niger-Delta is more than 90% responsible for the existence of Nigeria, it thrives and wallows in abject poverty. It is an overstated fact that many things have gone awry in Nigeria. However one thing that holds true; resonating globally is this. AS FOOLISH AS SAGAMITE. The protest in Abuja which you discarded is the worst editorial work I have seen in years and that’s because you rewrote it. You overstep the shambolic boundaries of your bland and mediocre world when you say the analysis should have been the impact of the protest. A fool you are, because the reporter clearly answered the point of analysis when he answered in summary. What was the reason for the rally? That story was a straight or copy story which means it had to be straight to the point; need I educate you that there are several news writing styles and forms and unfortunately QUACK EDITOR; you are lost in an unending pool of ignorance. Well in DIASPORA you dwell; the only problem here is that the only times I have heard that word was during the EXODUS 3500 years ago and the era of the African slavery, albeit this aptly explains your anachronistic primordial leaning. Now you father was wiser than you because he kept the old dailies and clippings for future references such as this and I am sure that if you ask him he’d provide you several dailies which provided the details of the former TSS agreement. Again when I call you a scallywag I am not far off the mark; because in the last two months the ASUU boss has on morning and prime news magazine TV programmes enlightened the public; and informed everyone that cared a hoot it’s demand. But then I am wary because I am reminded in coining a proverb not cast my pearls before a swine. The paucity of Nigerian information is not new; if you had the benefit of graduating from a Nigerian university you would realize that most formidable clog in the wheel was this; most information available for analysis dated back to the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s. Idiota; the national dailies are not the federal ministry of information and statistics. You cannot be in Jerusalem nincompoop, and expect to be a critique of the Nigerian press when by your admission are not more knowledgeable of salient Nigerian issues than a garage tout or street-side chef; your misfortune dumbass This unfortunately is not fault of the media, but of a moronic conjecture of dim-witted cells which comprise your DNA, SHAGAMITE THE FOOLISH, E la la puta |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Nobody: 1:37pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
darqly:My guy, I appreciate and admire the tone of your post and the manner in which you have put your point across which is in stack contrast to that doofus and cocky threadstarter. Let me point out that I am not a pressman and I have no business in the media however as an ardent reader of a select dailies I have noticed the rather alarming shameful articles our journalists, editors and reporters put out. I did not at anytime disagree with threadstarters view however, I noticed that he may have mistakenly labelled all Nigerian Journalists, reporters and Editors as appalling. VWW initially pointed this out and I followed suit. Rather than thank us or better still ignore the observation, he took it upon himself to throw insults. Obviously, I failed to quote the initial post so I really do not have much to prove but the fact is the initial post was doctored after he was alerted. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 2:18pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: My God, what kind of retards are these? What do they feed you and Omo Ibo? Are you guys really these retarded? You are claiming I rewrote something that has the link to the website? Won ma ti shepe fun eleyi tan!!! Won ti ba ti e je tipe tipe! (They have completely cursed this one!!! They have damaged your life since a long time ago) Even the way you cannot compose a simple post is evidence of how poor our journalists are. The bloody fool does not know how to break his post into paragraphs so it is easily read. Foool! |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 2:33pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
Another moronic technique of some Nigerian journalists, burying 2 different stories under one story's headline. Why not have a headline like "Criminal activities being investigated in Niger State"? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 2:55pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
@ SAGAMITE There are better synonyms than slowpoke; get a thesaurus SAGAMITE THE FOOL , anyway i'm leaving you, this thread in the lurch of your smelly puke. you're too dumb for a serious debate. a waste of intellect. when you're with living i suggest you donate your brain to the university of ibadan zoo |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 3:05pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: slowpoke, I wonder what intellect you have demonstrated here with your unreadable posts that lacks flow. Mr Journalist. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 3:09pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
lool, that's the idea.my unreadable posts are too high for you.olodo |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 3:12pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: Yeah, high on weed. Disgrace calling himself journalist. Go on a Writing Skills and Critical Thinking course and then come back here so you get flogged less. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 3:13pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
Nevertheless let's call a truce; b4 this gets too far; a 1000 apologies. It's friday and there's much more to be done than bandying words on NL. Habare gane bru |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by vwvw(m): 3:17pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
and i am a serious, enterprising journalist and must admit that this is a thankless job. the truth is you'd never know unless you got on the field. IT'S TOUGH. I've covered crime politics and foreign affairs; it's no child's play; have u ever been to darfur? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 3:23pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
vwvw: There is nothing witholding journalist from simple things like structure and comprehensiveness of reports apart from lack of competence and intelligence. I am not requesting journalist to go and report on Abacha loot or who killed Bola Ige that are risky projects, I am only requesting they do the basic stuff like making whatever little information they have clear and getting all the information that are very easy to get. Pure basics of professionalism in the industry. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by prettyG: 3:29pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by MyJoe: 5:35pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
@ OP Sagamite is opening a Pandora's box. If you take any Nigerian newspaper and decide to tear off the pages with obvious grammatical and typographical errors, you will hardly have any pages left. The only exception I can find in this case would be THE PUNCH. The rest, their editors don't bother with their job, which is editing - accuse me of generalisation, and I will defend my position. The kinds of problems highlighted by Sagamite are all too common. Something else I find particularly worrying is their inability to follow up stories. Again, THE PUNCH has been putting up some effort here, but it falls far short. On the electronic media, one has to agree with nex. nex: NTA is the only TV station you see some professionalism. I think Iredia's problem was his pedigree. When Obasanjo appointed the DG of NOA to head NTA, I sighed. And the man did not disappoint as he saw the NTA as a continuation of his last job. But there is a general disregard for standards around here that goes beyond the journalism profession. Try reading Lagos State Laws. Or pick up any spelling textbook approved by a state ministry of education for use by our school kids. Could it be that, to use a cliche, the chicken is coming home to roost? I mean, all those folks who didn't bother to attend GCE centres are now becoming editors and lawyers and doctors? Just wondering. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by canuck(m): 6:28pm On Oct 30, 2009 |
Sagamite: LOL! I hear you. I read some naija articles and it's a cross between praise-singing and lack of candour to ask the tough questions. |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Sagamite(m): 6:22am On Nov 02, 2009 |
For these report we don't even know which person wrote it as it has two names attached as author (Wale at the top, Olaoluwa at the end of article ). Bloody quacks!!! Whatever the case, the slowpoke that wrote this article said "South Africans condemned blah blah blah" in the title of the article but there is not a SOLE mention of South Africans in the body of the report. What kind of retard is this? |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Jarus(m): 1:32pm On Nov 02, 2009 |
Yeah. . . .he's a freelance journalist. . . . you might see him on thisdayonline every now and then. . . . his Nairaland username is Jarus me ke? Me I no be journalist o. I just dey express personal opinions in newspapers |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by Nobody: 2:03pm On Nov 02, 2009 |
^^^^^ Jarus kai - i swear u need to get a sense of humour ibime is just joking haba! and here i was thinking i took everything too seriously |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by No2Atheism(m): 2:05pm On Nov 02, 2009 |
baba born boy . . . are u sure u do not take everything too seriously . . . oya speak . . . |
Re: Useless Journalism In Nigeria (Name and Shame) by No2Atheism(m): 2:07pm On Nov 02, 2009 |
Jarus: now i know who to mention whenever i get attack |
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