WellEndowed:
The OP who is already confused will be even "confuserrrrrr" after reading the responses on this thread.

If you are a Canadian citizen @maternal and want to visit Australia, I think you would only need to apply for ETA


@op like the "longer" throat we(Nigerians) all are just go for the two EOD

ylinkz2020:


As if you know!!
I don tire!!

Canada looks okay. Especially with the proximity with the rest of the world and USA. Especially if one is business inclined.
But with Trump at the helm, who know what the next 4 years will look like, knowing that the canadian economy is very dependent on exports to USA

gogochocolate:
I though about trying both countries then both i have a family it and it would have cost me about an additional two million naira for flight tickets to Australia aside having to source for apartments and pay for them and maintain my family for that duration. The costs were seriously adding up in such a short time. I had to pay close to 1.3 million naira for Aussie visa for i and my family asides the medicals which cost about 180 thousand naira at Lagos (This expenses where done at the old exchange rate) now the cost would have been probably twice. Travelling to Australia and Canada for this type of experiment would have meant serious more expenses and i would still have to choose one at the end so i simply stuck to Canada and choose my live in the deep freezer . . For months i dey find sweat wey i no dey see.

mystikal:


I'm guessing when he emphasized the female, he was implying he isn't married to a guy. You can never tell in this age of bobrisky, cait and the likes.

40manlappy:


@Vicky.Rotex: Which city/province do you live in?

VickyRotex:


But there's Summer na

gogochocolate:


Summer in Canada is equivalent to the worst Hamartan in Nigeria. This my own take especially at night.

gogochocolate:
OP, I was in the same shoe like you about two years ago. I applied, paid for and got both the Australia PR and Canadian PR. My own take s that the choice depends on you entirely. You would find it easier to integrate into Canadian system than the Australian because of certain similarities between Nigeria and Canada.
1. You would find it much more easier to drive in Canada than in Aussie. Believe me driving a car in the western world is so critical to survival and to getting certain key jobs. Australia uses right hand driving while Canada uses what we have in Nigeria. I was able to start driving comfortable in Canada barely a week after arriving Canada. You would have to learn driving again in aussie.
2. You should also look at where you have people that can give you soft landing and put you through the system as this is always critical for a new immigrant.
3. Australia has an excellent weather and Canada for me feels like living in a deep freezer virtually all year round.
4. Canadian system have many provincial regulations and just by moving from one province to another you have to start redoing things from the scratch again. Each has its own pros and cons but whatever you choose you will keep day dreaming about the other and wondering if the grass at the other side is not greener. . Anyway, i choose Canada in my case and still wonder in my moments if Aussie would not have been better option but only God Knows.

gogochocolate:


Summer in Canada is equivalent to the worst Hamartan in Nigeria. This my own take especially at night.

shinarambo1:

I disagree with the first advice though about driving. If you came to canada from the UK, Ireland, Japan or Australia. The only test you will need to take is an eye test, and you would be given your advanced license straight away. Whereas if you come from Nigeria, you would need to take a road test to even get your basic license. I have driven in countries using both RHD and LHD, there is not much difference... The most important thing is understanding the road rules. In a country like Nigeria..road rules hardly exist and irrespective of whether you move to canada or australia. You would need to take a driving road test.

gogochocolate:


Bros imagine you coming straight out of the plane and given a right hand drive car to drive in a new country, be frank would you feel confident to drive it ? Add that to coping with various signs you see in on the roads in Canada, different road design (separate demarcation for turning traffic) and having to depend fully on the GPS of the car because you don't know your way round anywhere. It could be disconcerting for any new immigrant coming from Nigeria where there is basically no form of road signs or traffic laws. I had driven for several years in Nigeria but the first time i drove in Canada with it was almost like i lacked confidence driving for the first time. My first trip my whole family just de pray because for the first time you have to drive and depend on a strange GPS voice for direction. The first time i heard " Keep right or left of the Forth" i was slightly perplexed but after about a three days i was driving my family everywhere in Canada. In the UK, fear never gree me to touch any right hand drive because the move in opposite directions to us in Nigeria. It takes a lot of the mental orientation to be able to cope and deal with that. My experience as a new immigrant with a family showed me that you have to learn to fend for yourself from day one as everybody is so busy to help you and believe me driving is key to settling down. Some kind of interviews i attended during my first few days in Canada the main area of concern for the job agency was if i could drive. Once i said yes, i got the job.

VickyRotex:


Montréal/QC

VickyRotex:


As in ehn! I confuse for the Op sef

gogochocolate:
Yukon kee.................... that one na eskimo be that. Edmonton Alberta.......................

40manlappy:




You are not alone. I appreciate the interchange of facts and experiences though.

This thread may be useful to me in the not too distant future

gogochocolate:


Bros imagine you coming straight out of the plane and given a right hand drive car to drive in a new country, be frank would you feel confident to drive it ? Add that to coping with various signs you see in on the roads in Canada, different road design (separate demarcation for turning traffic) and having to depend fully on the GPS of the car because you don't know your way round anywhere. It could be disconcerting for any new immigrant coming from Nigeria where there is basically no form of road signs or traffic laws. I had driven for several years in Nigeria but the first time i drove in Canada with it was almost like i lacked confidence driving for the first time. My first trip my whole family just de pray because for the first time you have to drive and depend on a strange GPS voice for direction. The first time i heard " Keep right or left of the Forth" i was slightly perplexed but after about a three days i was driving my family everywhere in Canada. In the UK, fear never gree me to touch any right hand drive because the move in opposite directions to us in Nigeria. It takes a lot of the mental orientation to be able to cope and deal with that. My experience as a new immigrant with a family showed me that you have to learn to fend for yourself from day one as everybody is so busy to help you and believe me driving is key to settling down. Some kind of interviews i attended during my first few days in Canada the main area of concern for the job agency was if i could drive. Once i said yes, i got the job.

johnsontade:


6. Occupation Regulation & Tax: We don't have provincial sales tax in Australia and regulated occupations have only one national body which simply means you can always relocate to other states for work without going through any form of licensure process in the new state you're relocating to.

shinarambo1:

Point number 6 is very important, and I can relate to that well. I and my madam both work in regulated professions. When the economy of a particular region slows down, we can't just wake up and say we want to apply for jobs in a different province without having the license to practice in that province. Licensing cost money too else it would have been easy to just get a license for each province. Op's wife works in same profession as my madam. In the UK it's very very very much easier for op's wife to get into her profession just by attending a 1 year conversion program at a Uni. In Canada, it is much difficult...it takes the geniuses (1st class grads of Nigerian Uni's) i know, nothing less than two years of self-studying, group studying, writing regulatory exams, OSCE's e.t.c to scale through, and they only have three attempts at it or they would be barred from the profession. I am not sure if Australia has a similar model like that of the UK.

gogochocolate:
I though about trying both countries then both i have a family it and it would have cost me about an additional two million naira for flight tickets to Australia aside having to source for apartments and pay for them and maintain my family for that duration. The costs were seriously adding up in such a short time. I had to pay close to 1.3 million naira for Aussie visa for i and my family asides the medicals which cost about 180 thousand naira at Lagos (This expenses where done at the old exchange rate) now the cost would have been probably twice. Travelling to Australia and Canada for this type of experiment would have meant serious more expenses and i would still have to choose one at the end so i simply stuck to Canada and choose my life in the deep freezer. . For months i dey find sweat wey i no dey see. Bros no matter what decision you take you would still feel the other one might have been better . take is from me.

VickyRotex:
lol. No need to take this ish personal biko.

And like I said earlier, I'd really love to visit Australia some day.

And maybe then, I'd make my findings aswel and probably come back to this thread to give you guys an update.

But for now, even me sef confuse for the Op mehn.

gogochocolate:


Bros imagine you coming straight out of the plane and given a right hand drive car to drive in a new country, be frank would you feel confident to drive it ? .

maternal:
Comparing the cost of living in Canada (Toronto/Vancouver) to Australia is very bias. Those two cities have the wealthiest people in Canada, especially in their downtown core. Comparing a mid-size city without their wealthiest residents would be more realistic. Also I keep on hearing those who live in Australia say their social benefits are better than Canada's. Yet I haven't seen any facts or better yet I haven't seen a benefit you guys have down there that we don't here. Universal healthcare ? Got it. Unemployment benefits ? Got it. Maternity leave/allowance ? We get up to a full year with 70-100 percent of full pay, and parliament is trying to make it a year and a half. Monthly allowance for a woman with a new born (its called baby bonus)? got it. Interest free student loan until you get into the job market ? Got it. And if you're from Ontario the provincial government will even pay for your university depending on you or your parents salary. Being able to claim certain things on your tax return especially if you're low income ? Got it. Honestly what's so amazing about Australia's social benefits that Canada doesn't have ? This may impress Americans only.


Furthermore, we've established Aussies (Can I say that ?) make a few thousand more per year, but at the same time their cost of living is also higher. Even if costs of things are similar in Canada (which is not) we can just cross the boarder into the states where things are dirt cheap. Another North American perk. And I've shown articles which has proved Canada has the wealthiest middle class. So I'm curious to know how Aussies have more disposable income ? I'm pretty sure the money parents would save in Canada not having to pay for their children's University education would trump (no pun intended) any disposable income an Aussie would have over a Canadian. The price of a post secondary education is getting out of control. I just want to know where this perception is coming from. Now when it comes to one of the highest paid, and an utter idiot making good money, Canada has to be one of the top country for that. It's not uncommon to see people with a 8th grade level education make 6 figures in the oil industry. To begin with not much people would agree to work in the oil-field for under 6 figures. That's even the starting rate. Cleaners make that let alone engineers or people with a red-seal trade.

A few years ago the average yearly salary for a oil-sand worker here was 130k USD per year. That's around 173k Canadian per year. I use to clear 140k easily when I use to take OT. Now with a pikin and family obligations it's around 105-110k per year. The older you get, the less you care for OT. I have a degree which has nothing to do with my work and I have no trade. Even within the city, ordinary transit drivers can make 100-130k per year. The city of Calgary is looking for a receptionist at 37 dollars an hour. That's like 76k per year without OT. These jobs only require a high school education where you can train a retarded monkey to do it. But I've met Nigerians in the oil industry with an education. That's having a red seal trade, engineering degree, or some sort of 1 year diploma. They don't make less than 150k to 300k. I've met so many Africans who came here as a skilled worker, got their PR, rushed to the oilfields, and 4 years later have bought a house and are living good. Establishing yourself and owning a house in a new country within 4 years is impressive.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/salaries+average+Survey/9719742/story.html

https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2011/03/31/300_workers_join_ttc_topearner_club.html


https://recruiting.calgary.ca/psc/pdhr/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_CE.GBL?Page=HRS_CE_JOB_DTL&JobOpeningId=207999&PostingSeq=1&SiteId=1&

johnsontade:


@maternal. This isn't an argument or competition between both countries.

maternal:
It's just friendly lil competition. Nothing personal. After all I have no plans to get up and leave for AU, neither do people living down under to come up here. I'm actually learning a lot about AU in this thread. Just a question. Please don't laugh, but how common is it to see a Kangaroo. Do you have to go to a zoo, or you can find them roaming around freely in suburban areas.