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Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 3:31am On Aug 29
the trump of God is an actual trumpet, not a man

1Co_15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:27am On Aug 29
johnw74:
the trump of God is an actual trumpet, not a man

1Co_15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

You cannot understand these things until you accept that Jesus is a Negro, and then start reading the Bible with understanding. If you do not know the people the Bible is addressed to, how can you understand the nature subject and perspectives of the prophecies?

At the last trump
Cyrus the giver of freedom to the Jews was named by name 100years before he was born
the trumpet shall sound
the trumpet is a rallying sound, to war, to arise, to call to attention etc
the dead shall be raised
The Negroes are the dead people of the Bible, the living breathing but spiritually dead people. They will rise again at the blast of the trumpet.
We shall be changed
Mortality will be exchanged for immortality
Read Ezekiel 37.

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Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 12:40pm On Aug 29
MrPresident1:


You cannot understand these things until you accept that Jesus is a Negro, and then start reading the Bible with understanding. If you do not know the people the Bible is addressed to, how can you understand the nature subject and perspectives of the prophecies?

At the last trump
Cyrus the giver of freedom to the Jews was named by name 100years before he was born
the trumpet shall sound
the trumpet is a rallying sound, to war, to arise, to call to attention etc
the dead shall be raised
The Negroes are the dead people of the Bible, the living breathing but spiritually dead people. They will rise again at the blast of the trumpet.
We shall be changed
Mortality will be exchanged for immortality
Read Ezekiel 37.


you may play around with God's word(the Bible) until it's to late for you
your mouth won't be trumpeting then that's for sure
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 1:08pm On Aug 29
johnw74:


you may play around with God's word(the Bible) until it's to late for you
your mouth won't be trumpeting then that's for sure


Jesus is darkskinned. If you do not accept it, you can never know what is inside the Bible, your knowledge will at best be peripheral.

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Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 1:09am On Aug 30
MrPresident1:


Jesus is darkskinned. If you do not accept it, you can never know what is inside the Bible, your knowledge will at best be peripheral.

it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was, and knowledge of the Bible is not
attained by knowing what color skin Jesus had, that statement is lacking in wisdom

my skin is darker than many black people because of the sun and working outdoors
and a hard life, but i'm white
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 1:27am On Aug 30
MrPresident1:


Jesus is darkskinned. If you do not accept it, you can never know what is inside the Bible, your knowledge will at best be peripheral.



your knowledge of the Bible isn't crash hot that's for sure:


MrPresident1:
Lamentations 5:10
10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

Job 30:30
My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

Lamentations 4:8
Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick.


THEIR VISAGE IS BLACKER THAN A COAL!!!!

WAKE UP NOW!!!!!


does it matter what color Jesus skin was?

but your posted verses show that Jesus fore fathers were white(verse 7), before God at that time caused them
to suffer famine due to their sins


they were compared to fine gold, verse 2

they are punished for their sins, verse 6

they were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk verse 7

Their visage is become blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. verse 8

They that be slain with the sword are better than they that be slain with hunger: for these pine away, stricken through for want of the fruits of the field. verse 9


read all of chapter 4



again, why was their skin black?
A. because of the terrible famine

Lam 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.



Job 30:30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

job's skin is black and his bones burned with heat because of the
curses and diseases God has allowed satan to inflict on him.




Lam 4:7  Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy(pink) in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

the blood shows through many white people giving them a ruddy(pink) appearance



also read the book of job
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 1:54am On Aug 30
MrPresident1:


You cannot understand these things until you accept that Jesus is a Negro, and then start reading the Bible with understanding. If you do not know the people the Bible is addressed to, how can you understand the nature subject and perspectives of the prophecies?

At the last trump
Cyrus the giver of freedom to the Jews was named by name 100years before he was born
the trumpet shall sound
the trumpet is a rallying sound, to war, to arise, to call to attention etc
the dead shall be raised
The Negroes are the dead people of the Bible, the living breathing but spiritually dead people. They will rise again at the blast of the trumpet.
We shall be changed
Mortality will be exchanged for immortality
Read Ezekiel 37.


the dead in Christ rise at the trump of God, not spiritually dead people

(1Th 4:16)  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(1Th 4:17)  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by jiggaz(m): 6:06am On Aug 30
johnw74:


it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was, and knowledge of the Bible is not
attained by knowing what color skin Jesus had, that statement is lacking in wisdom

my skin is darker than many black people because of the sun and working outdoors
and a hard life, but i'm white

Did u say u are white? I mean Caucasian? I thought u were Nigerian?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 10:22am On Aug 30
jiggaz:
Did u say u are white? I mean Caucasian? I thought u were Nigerian?

yes Caucasian
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by jiggaz(m): 10:27am On Aug 30
johnw74:


yes Caucasian
That's nice.... So u like Nigeria?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 10:52am On Aug 30
jiggaz:
That's nice.... So u like Nigeria?

thanks
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 8:28pm On Aug 30
Ezekiel 37:11-14
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the LordGod; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lordhave spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.


johnw74:


the dead in Christ rise at the trump of God, not spiritually dead people

(1Th 4:16)  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(1Th 4:17)  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The dead in Christ is made up of 2 categories of people, the Negroes who are presently hid in mental graves, mentally and spiritually dead; and gentiles who received the message of the gospel during the tribulation of the Negroes. Everything the Black man has suffered in the hands of the whiteman is the tribulation. It has now ended, it will NEVER happen again.

satan, is the prince of the power of the air, the spirit now working in the children of disobedience, the coming of Jesus is his displacement from authority forever, no one is disappearing to anywhere in the rapture.

Now is Christ risen from the dead and become the firsfruits of them that slept
We that are alive unto the coming of Christ
Everyman in his own order christ the firstfruits afterward those that are Christ's at his coming
All Israel will be saved

Look at these 4 verses very well let me show you their relationship. Israel went into the grave, the firstfruits to wake up from that spiritual mental grave are the firstfruits, this is Christ. It is these people which includes Paul that Paul is now saying of them "we that are alive unto the coming of Christ...", now everyman will wake up in his own order, Christ the firstfruits. It is when Christ now comes that the Batch B will now wake up. Batch A are the firstfruits. Batch B is made up of all Israel, and every other person that accepted the gospel during the tribulation.

All Israel will be saved. Israel or the Negroes have already undergone their own judgment, and this was their tribulation.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:00pm On Aug 30
Zephaniah 3:10
10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.

johnw74:


your knowledge of the Bible isn't crash hot that's for sure:

does it matter what color Jesus skin was?

but your posted verses show that Jesus fore fathers were white(verse 7), before God at that time caused them
to suffer famine due to their sins

they were compared to fine gold, verse 2

they are punished for their sins, verse 6

they were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk verse 7

Their visage is become blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. verse 8

They that be slain with the sword are better than they that be slain with hunger: for these pine away, stricken through for want of the fruits of the field. verse 9

read all of chapter 4

again, why was their skin black?
A. because of the terrible famine

Lam 5:10 Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine.

Job 30:30 My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.

job's skin is black and his bones burned with heat because of the
curses and diseases God has allowed satan to inflict on him.

Lam 4:7  Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy(pink) in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

the blood shows through many white people giving them a ruddy(pink) appearance

also read the book of job


All this long long things to prove that Jesus is not darkskinned then he turns around to ask the significance of Jesus' skin colour, then he tries to prove that Jesus is white. You find it difficult to believe and agree abi? After living all your life in the fake belief that you are the superior race, you now find it galling that you will have to bow to darkskinned Jesus, nothing you can do 'bout it. We were in tribulation, that is why whitey was allowed some time in the sun. The tribulation has ended, and we will reclaim what is ours

Jesus is darkskinned , you accept or you reject is your business. He says that the daughter of His dispersed will bring his offerings from beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, does this sound like Europe?

Even Benjamin Netanyahu came to tell us that 'Israel is RETURNING BACK to Africa in a BIG way'.

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Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:18pm On Aug 30
johnw74:


it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was, and knowledge of the Bible is not
attained by knowing what color skin Jesus had, that statement is lacking in wisdom

my skin is darker than many black people because of the sun and working outdoors
and a hard life, but i'm white


You will not understand the nature and subject and perspectives of biblical prophecies until you correctly situate the people the Bible is primarily addressed to. If you fail to do this, your knowledge will at best be peripheral, this is fact.

Sorry about your 'hard' life, lol. What do you know about hard life?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 2:50am On Aug 31
MrPresident1:
Ezekiel 37:11-14
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the LordGod; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lordhave spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.




The dead in Christ is made up of 2 categories of people, the Negroes who are presently hid in mental graves, mentally and spiritually dead; and gentiles who received the message of the gospel during the tribulation of the Negroes.

again, i'm sure it's clear to every Christian that the dead in Christ is believers who have died,
and not the spiritually dead. Truly the dead in Christ-believers who have died, are spiritually alive.


MrPresident1:
Everything the Black man has suffered in the hands of the whiteman is the tribulation. It has now ended, it will NEVER happen again.

The end time great tribulation before the return of Christ has not begun,
these things have not happened, and these things are even before the Trumpet judgments and vials:

Rev 6:12  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 
Rev 6:13  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 
Rev 6:14  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 
Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 
Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?



MrPresident1:
satan, is the prince of the power of the air, the spirit now working in the children of disobedience, the coming of Jesus is his displacement from authority forever, no one is disappearing to anywhere in the rapture.

Really:
 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



MrPresident1:
Now is Christ risen from the dead and become the firsfruits of them that slept
We that are alive unto the coming of Christ
Everyman in his own order christ the firstfruits afterward those that are Christ's at his coming
All Israel will be saved

Look at these 4 verses very well let me show you their relationship. Israel went into the grave, the firstfruits to wake up from that spiritual mental grave are the firstfruits, this is Christ. It is these people which includes Paul that Paul is now saying of them "we that are alive unto the coming of Christ...", now everyman will wake up in his own order, Christ the firstfruits. It is when Christ now comes that the Batch B will now wake up. Batch A are the firstfruits. Batch B is made up of all Israel, and every other person that accepted the gospel during the tribulation.

All Israel will be saved. Israel or the Negroes have already undergone their own judgment, and this was their tribulation.




I think some negros are part of Israel, but the majority of the northern tribes of Israel moved north west,
because according to a prophecy yet to be fulfilled, that is where they will be returning from:

Isa 49:12  They will come from far away. They will come from the north and from the west, and they will come from the land of Sinim. 

they return from the north and the west which would be europe and places along the way,
back into the land of Israel
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 3:13am On Aug 31
MrPresident1:
Zephaniah 3:10
10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering.



All this long long things to prove that Jesus is not darkskinned then he turns around to ask the significance of Jesus' skin colour, then he tries to prove that Jesus is white. You find it difficult to believe and agree abi?

@underline, Jesus according to scripture, I don't think was black,
and again, to me it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was

MrPresident1:
After living all your life in the fake belief that you are the superior race, you now find it galling that you will have to bow to darkskinned Jesus, nothing you can do 'bout it. We were in tribulation, that is why whitey was allowed some time in the sun. The tribulation has ended, and we will reclaim what is ours

Jesus is darkskinned , you accept or you reject is your business. He says that the daughter of His dispersed will bring his offerings from beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, does this sound like Europe?

Even Benjamin Netanyahu came to tell us that 'Israel is RETURNING BACK to Africa in a BIG way'.

@boldunderline, did i say that?


I'm sure some of israel went to africa, and to all parts of the world,
buy according to Isaiah the major part went north and west
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 3:30am On Aug 31
MrPresident1:


You will not understand the nature and subject and perspectives of biblical prophecies until you correctly situate the people the Bible is primarily addressed to. If you fail to do this, your knowledge will at best be peripheral, this is fact.

Sorry about your 'hard' life, lol. What do you know about hard life?

the Bible primarily addresses Israel, yes

and you haven't given scriptures supporting what you say,
the verses you do post, don't show at all that Israel are the negros.

You have done a lot of false accusing though, im sure there are points from the devil for that

and falsely accusing is the sort of thing that the spiritually dead do <<< you belief that negros are spiritually dead
i'm not saying i agree with you, just that you may be
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 8:56pm On Sep 12
johnw74:


again, i'm sure it's clear to every Christian that the dead in Christ is believers who have died,
and not the spiritually dead. Truly the dead in Christ-believers who have died, are spiritually alive.

The resurrection is the imputing of life into the dry bones of Israel, it is a zombie apocalypse of sorts, allegorically. It is not about literal dead bodies lying in the graves, it is talking about living breathing eating walking talking apparently alive but essentially dead bodies strutting the streets thinking themselves to be alive but very dead spiritually and mentally.

Paul says ''we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord''...Where is Paul now? And is God the God of the living or of the dead?

Among the living dead, the firstfruits have arisen, Christ.


1 Thessalonians 4:15
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.


johnw74:

The end time great tribulation before the return of Christ has not begun,
these things have not happened, and these things are even before the Trumpet judgments and vials:

Rev 6:12  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 
Rev 6:13  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 
Rev 6:14  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 
Rev 6:15  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 
Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

You are misquoting the Bible, if this is deliberate, stop it immediately. This place you are quoting is not talking about the tribulation, this place is talking about the wrath of the Lamb of God when He come to take vengeance on the wicked rulers/people of this world at His second coming. The tribulation is about human suffering in hands of satan the devil and not about satan's just recompense in the hands of the Son of God.

johnw74:

Really:
 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

I will break this down for you.

1. We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord
2. shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Corinthians 15:1-2
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.


Paul is one of Christ, Christ meaning the body of men anointed with the Word of God. He is of the tribe of Benjamin Revelation 7:8. I am saying this to let you know that the mass of Israel is mentally dead hence the firstfruits who come to life first and the then afterward those that are Christ's at His coming.

By compositely examining both Scriptures honestly, you will realise what I am saying. I cannot argue. The first fruits wake up from the dead first, these are Christ, then the latter fruit wake up when Jesus returns, this is why Paul says ...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not present them which are asleep

Where is Paul now, is he living or dead? Is God the God of the living or of the dead?

johnw74:

I think some negros are part of Israel, but the majority of the northern tribes of Israel moved north west,
because according to a prophecy yet to be fulfilled, that is where they will be returning from:

Isa 49:12  They will come from far away. They will come from the north and from the west, and they will come from the land of Sinim. 

they return from the north and the west which would be europe and places along the way,
back into the land of Israel

The point I am making to you is that the people who wrote the Bible are a DARKSKINNED people. The Jews, the stock of Jesus, the people from whom Jesus Christ descended, are DARKSKINNED.

All lineage Israel remain dispersed, and you will find them all over the world including in Europe. I understand that other Israelites include the Native American Indians, the Aborigines of Australia, the Latinos, the Hispanics etc. Again, look at what Zondervan has to say about the Negroes

Zondervan’s Compact Bible Dictionary:

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.


But the Caucasian is not a lineage Israelite, the Caucasian is an edomite. EDOM. RED.

Now all this tracing of the lineage and genealogy of Jesus is no longer relevant because Jesus is not coming for the Jews alone, He is coming for the Church made up of lineage Israel, the original owners of the promise; and converts who heeded the gospel message of reconciliation during the period of the tribulation and travail of the true Israelites (Negroes) of the Bible. So, it your lineage does not matter, Christ died for his church.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:12pm On Sep 12
johnw74:


@underline, Jesus according to scripture, I don't think was black,
and again, to me it doesn't matter what color Jesus skin was

I am not interested in what you think.

Jesus' stock was DARKSKINNED, he descended from a darkskinned people. His lineage kin who are presently dispersed are still beyond the rivers of Ethiopia from whence they will be recalled home. They do not realise whom they are, they are the scum of the earth because they are mentally dead. But they will rise again grin, it is the allegory of the devolution of King Nebuchadnezzar wink

And as I keep telling you, you will remain in the periphery of Bible knowledge until you situate the true Jews Negroes in proper context. It is when you get your bearing that you can now commence your journey, until then, you may continue wasting your time in the wilderness of confusion.

johnw74:


@boldunderline, did i say that?
I'm sure some of israel went to africa, and to all parts of the world,
buy according to Isaiah the major part went north and west

Whatever you say, just keep in mind that the aboriginal caucasian is NOT an Israelite. The Caucasian is Edom.

In Christ, who is the firstfruits from the dead, is all enmity broken and destroyed forever.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:19pm On Sep 12
johnw74:


the Bible primarily addresses Israel, yes

and you haven't given scriptures supporting what you say,
the verses you do post, don't show at all that Israel are the negros.

You have done a lot of false accusing though, im sure there are points from the devil for that

and falsely accusing is the sort of thing that the spiritually dead do <<< you belief that negros are spiritually dead
i'm not saying i agree with you, just that you may be

Groping blindly in daylight. Jesus is Darkskinned grin

Zondervan’s Compact Bible Dictionary:

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 9:41pm On Sep 12
Where are the Watchers...
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 2:25am On Sep 13
MrPresident1:


The resurrection is the imputing of life into the dry bones of Israel, it is a zombie apocalypse of sorts, allegorically. It is not about literal dead bodies lying in the graves, it is talking about living breathing eating walking talking apparently alive but essentially dead bodies strutting the streets thinking themselves to be alive but very dead spiritually and mentally.

Paul says ''we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord''...Where is Paul now? And is God the God of the living or of the dead?

Among the living dead, the firstfruits have arisen, Christ.


1 Thessalonians 4:15
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.



This happens at the Lord's coming, it's Christians, those dead in Christ and those in Christ who are alive, that rise to meet Jesus in the clouds

1Th 4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 
1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise firs
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

the dead in Christ are believers in Christ who have died,
they are not the spiritually dead negro israelis as you say they are -- idiocy



MrPresident1:

You are misquoting the Bible, if this is deliberate, stop it immediately. This place you are quoting is not talking about the tribulation, this place is talking about the wrath of the Lamb of God when He come to take vengeance on the wicked rulers/people of this world at His second coming. The tribulation is about human suffering in hands of satan the devil and not about satan's just recompense in the hands of the Son of God.

duh, i showed that the great tribulation-God's wrath has not begun
so we are still in the tribulation period that many believe has been going on for 2000 years



MrPresident1:


I will break this down for you.

1. We which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord
2. shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Corinthians 15:1-2
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.


Paul is one of Christ, Christ meaning the body of men anointed with the Word of God. He is of the tribe of Benjamin Revelation 7:8. I am saying this to let you know that the mass of Israel is mentally dead hence the firstfruits who come to life first and the then afterward those that are Christ's at His coming.

By compositely examining both Scriptures honestly, you will realise what I am saying. I cannot argue. The first fruits wake up from the dead first, these are Christ, then the latter fruit wake up when Jesus returns, this is why Paul says ...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not present them which are asleep

Where is Paul now, is he living or dead? Is God the God of the living or of the dead?

it's very clear:
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

they that are Christ's are Christians

Rom_8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.



MrPresident1:


The point I am making to you is that the people who wrote the Bible are a DARKSKINNED people. The Jews, the stock of Jesus, the people from whom Jesus Christ descended, are DARKSKINNED.

All lineage Israel remain dispersed, and you will find them all over the world including in Europe. I understand that other Israelites include the Native American Indians, the Aborigines of Australia, the Latinos, the Hispanics etc. Again, look at what Zondervan has to say about the Negroes

Zondervan’s Compact Bible Dictionary:

Ham – The youngest son of Noah, born probably about 96 years before the Flood; and one of eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races; not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans and Canaanites.


But the Caucasian is not a lineage Israelite, the Caucasian is an edomite. EDOM. RED.


like i have said more than once, i don't think it makes any difference what color Jesus skin was,
but it sure bothers you

MrPresident1:

Now all this tracing of the lineage and genealogy of Jesus is no longer relevant because Jesus is not coming for the Jews alone, He is coming for the Church made up of lineage Israel, the original owners of the promise; and converts who heeded the gospel message of reconciliation during the period of the tribulation and travail of the true Israelites (Negroes) of the Bible. So, it your lineage does not matter, Christ died for his church.




and His Church is made up of believers in Christ, and not the spiritually dead as you claim


i explained all of this to you before,

making your claims again won't make your confusion any clearer,
go back and have a re read
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 2:47am On Sep 13
MrPresident1:


I am not interested in what you think.

yet you post my quotes, ha ha, you lying again there


MrPresident1:

Jesus' stock was DARKSKINNED, he descended from a darkskinned people. His lineage kin who are presently dispersed are still beyond the rivers of Ethiopia from whence they will be recalled home. They do not realise whom they are, they are the scum of the earth because they are mentally dead. But they will rise again grin, it is the allegory of the devolution of King Nebuchadnezzar wink

And as I keep telling you, you will remain in the periphery of Bible knowledge until you situate the true Jews Negroes in proper context. It is when you get your bearing that you can now commence your journey, until then, you may continue wasting your time in the wilderness of confusion.

and so say's MrPresident1 who also says: the spiritually dead negros are those who are in Christ, smiley



MrPresident1:

Whatever you say, just keep in mind that the aboriginal caucasian is NOT an Israelite. The Caucasian is Edom.

In Christ, who is the firstfruits from the dead, is all enmity broken and destroyed forever.


truly i don't keep anything in mind that you say
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 7:10am On Sep 13
MrPresident1:
Where are the Watchers...

staying away from your crazy teachings, is where
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 10:46am On Sep 13
johnw74:

This happens at the Lord's coming, it's Christians, those dead in Christ and those in Christ who are alive, that rise to meet Jesus in the clouds

1Th 4:13  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 
1Th 4:14  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 
1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise firs
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 
1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 

the dead in Christ are believers in Christ who have died,
they are not the spiritually dead negro israelis as you say they are -- idiocy

You do not need to be angry over the fact that the Negroes are the true Israelites of the Bible. You only need to pipe down on your arrogance and the Word will open up to you like a flower in bloom. Your shock and disbelief is the direct effect of the whitewashing of the Bible by your race. The lies of 2 millenia are being blown to smithereens, jump on the train, be flexible to accept that the black man civilised you and your race, and true knowledge will open up to you. For a long time, you have thought the blackman is inferior to you, lol, he is not. He was only serving deserved punishment, YAH does not punish unjustly. And you know the reason why you need to jump ship to the side of Christ urgently?

Lamentations 4:21-22
21 Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of Edom, that dwellest in the land of Uz; the cup also shall pass through unto thee: thou shalt be drunken, and shalt make thyself Unclad. 22 The punishment of thine iniquity is accomplished, O daughter of Zion; he will no more carry thee away into captivity: he will visit thine iniquity, O daughter of Edom; he will discover thy sins.


The cup that the Negroes drank from is passing over to EDOM shocked. The punishment of the Negroes is accomplished grin. In Christ, there is neither Jew nor gentile, run to him and be saved this moment.

Your race took power and whitewashed everything inside the book to suit their narrative.
johnw74:

duh, i showed that the great tribulation-God's wrath has not begun
so we are still in the tribulation period that many believe has been going on for 2000 years

See this explanation from my thread on the great tribulation, you are invited to check it out in your Bible:
http://www.nairaland.com/3983798/immediately-after-tribulation-those-days...endtime
MrPresident1:
The characteristics of the great tribulation

When Jesus had warned his disciples of the sign of the abomination of desolation, he now commenced to give them the characteristics of the tribulation Mathew 24:5-14.

We must note that Jesus did not set out his conversation with his disciples in a chronological sequence.
He did not start follow a timeline chronological sequence to explain his points; he started by first giving the characteristics of the tribulation and its progression Mathew 24:5-14, then he gave the sign to identify its commencement and progression Mathew 24:15, then he showed them what to do when they see the sign Mathew 24:16-20. Jesus proceeds to tell us that it will be a great tribulation Mathew 24:21, then again he gives more characteristics of the tribulation Mathew 22-26.

To understand this prophecy, one must be able to identify the true/real/original subjects of Jesus’ conversation, who are the TRUE JEWS, THE NEGROES. One must also adequately situate the timelines, otherwise one will make a whole mess of the interpretation.

johnw74:

it's very clear:
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

they that are Christ's are Christians

Rom_8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Christ the firstfruits who are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel (Negroes, Latinos, Native American Indians etc no lineage caucasian grin) will wake up from the dead first. The latter fruit is the whole nation of men redeemed during the tribulation of Israel (now including lineage caucasians grin), these ones will wake up when Jesus returns.

johnw74:

like i have said more than once, i don't think it makes any difference what color Jesus skin was,
but it sure bothers you

Accepting is for your own edification. You continue in the wilderness of ignorance and confusion until you accept, your lot grin

johnw74:

and His Church is made up of believers in Christ, and not the spiritually dead as you claim

The church of Christ is made up of lineage Israel and the gentile converts who received the message of reconciliation during the tribulations (that has now ended)

Romans 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

If their devolution is the riches of the gentiles, how much more their fulness? Ponder grin

johnw74:

i explained all of this to you before,

making your claims again won't make your confusion any clearer,
go back and have a re read

I make no claims. The ball is in your court; to wallow on in the miry pit of ignorance due to arrogance (shock and incredulity), or to meekly submit to truth and admit yourself into the light of blessed liberating knowledge grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 11:01am On Sep 13
johnw74:

yet you post my quotes, ha ha, you lying again there

Are you OK? Feverish?

johnw74:

and so say's MrPresident1 who also says: the spiritually dead negros are those who are in Christ, smiley

Negroes wrote the Bible. Negroes civilised caucasians cheesy wink

johnw74:

truly i don't keep anything in mind that you say

Your business.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 11:02am On Sep 13
johnw74:


staying away from your crazy teachings, is where

lol

John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 11:14am On Sep 13
MrPresident1:


You do not need to be angry over the fact that the Negroes are the true Israelites of the Bible. You only need to pipe down on your arrogance and the Word will open up to you like a flower in bloom. Your shock and disbelief is the direct effect of the whitewashing of the Bible by your race. The lies of 2 millenia are being blown to smithereens, jump on the train, be flexible to accept that the black man civilised you and your race, and true knowledge will open up to you. For a long time, you have thought the blackman is inferior to you, lol, he is not. He was only serving deserved punishment, YAH does not punish unjustly. And you know the reason why you need to jump ship to the side of Christ urgently?

Lamentations 4:21-22
21 Rejoice and be glad, O daughter of Edom, that dwellest in the land of Uz; the cup also shall pass through unto thee: thou shalt be drunken, and shalt make thyself Unclad. 22 The punishment of thine iniquity is accomplished, O daughter of Zion; he will no more carry thee away into captivity: he will visit thine iniquity, O daughter of Edom; he will discover thy sins.


The cup that the Negroes drank from is passing over to EDOM shocked. The punishment of the Negroes is accomplished grin. In Christ, there is neither Jew nor gentile, run to him and be saved this moment.

Your race took power and whitewashed everything inside the book to suit their narrative.


See this explanation from my thread on the great tribulation, you are invited to check it out in your Bible:
http://www.nairaland.com/3983798/immediately-after-tribulation-those-days...endtime




Christ the firstfruits who are 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel (Negroes, Latinos, Native American Indians etc no lineage caucasian grin) will wake up from the dead first. The latter fruit is the whole nation of men redeemed during the tribulation of Israel (now including lineage caucasians grin), these ones will wake up when Jesus returns.



Accepting is for your own edification. You continue in the wilderness of ignorance and confusion until you accept, your lot grin



The church of Christ is made up of lineage Israel and the gentile converts who received the message of reconciliation during the tribulations (that has now ended)

Romans 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

If their devolution is the riches of the gentiles, how much more their fulness? Ponder grin



I make no claims. The ball is in your court; to wallow on in the miry pit of ignorance due to arrogance (shock and incredulity), or to meekly submit to truth and admit yourself into the light of blessed liberating knowledge grin


MrPresident1:


Are you OK? Feverish?



Negroes wrote the Bible. Negroes civilised caucasians cheesy wink



Your business.


MrPresident1:


lol

John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:




wow pres, you are really delusional, and all those grins looks like you are bordering on hysteria

truly i am not angry and insisting that Jesus is a certain color
or that negros are the true israel of the Bible
but it is you that is doing that, smiley
and you are obviously angry at having opposition to your fantasy, to bad
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 11:18am On Sep 13
johnw74:


wow pres, you are really delusional, and all those grins looks like you are bordering on hysteria

truly i am not angry and insisting that Jesus is a certain color
or that negros are the true israel of the Bible
but it is you that is doing that, smiley
and you are obviously angry at having opposition to your fantasy, to bad


I am done with you.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by johnw74: 12:10pm On Sep 13
MrPresident1:


I am done with you.

ok, it will be good not having you try and
shove your beliefs on me
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 8:29am On Sep 14
johnw74:


ok, it will be good not having you try and
shove your beliefs on me


But it is you that came to my thread now... grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1: 8:32am On Sep 14
Where them watchers?

How many more days to Rosh Hashanah 2017?

2 Thessalonians 2:5
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.


All the things that are withholding have been removed.

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