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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by PabloAfricanus(m): 2:28am On Jan 15, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Personally I have a problem with that statement and I will tell you why. I could be wrong tho and I freely admit it. When you say migrated from Bini empire...several assumptions are implied. 1) The fugitives who ran for their lives from whatever area of the Bini kingdom they resided were pure Bini people. 2) These Bini people apparently were NOT Igbo people and hence had to use an interpreter to communicate with any Igbo people they encountered on their outward flight 3) How these fugitives managed to bypass Agbor and the present Aniocha lands without meeting with Igbo speaking peoples but Bini people all the way is yet to be explained...when you consider the fact they came bearing Igbo names. 4) Its either all the places they got to and settled where settled by non-Bini natives or were bare empty lands...when you consider all the stories of foundings by Bini "princes" who promptly forgot their language in the shadow of Bini just across the border. 5) By their own claims and counter claims, they had nothing to do with Igbos and only encountered them in passing Why then is the overwhelming presence of Igbo language,deities, market days and culture the MOST significant trait among these descendants of Bini "princes"? Like all you see is Bini styled political hiearchies among an overwhelmingly Igbo community. You see, its either some people are trying to so hard to deny an Igbo presence way back in the old Bini kingdom or the Bini kingdom back then was surrounded to the south by native Igbo peoples. I think there were Igbo people in the old Bini kingdom and they were the ancestors of the present Anioma peoples today. Come to think about it, once you leave Bini and move down south, all you meet is communities of people speaking various Igbo dialects, from Agbor to Asaba to Ukwuani/Aboh. Cos there was no way a Bini "prince" could have established a pattern of settlements DIFFERENT from what other known Bini fugitive or non-fugitive princes have established. The examples of Ginuwa in Itshekiri and Asikpa in Eko come to mind. Not to mention the numerous Bini suzerainties in Ekiti and Ondo today who have acclimatized to the dominant Yoruba culture. But trace back and you will find the Bini thread linking back to old kingdom without controversy. These people do not deny their Itshekiri or Awori roots, they gladly point out that their monarchies came from Bini. They merely adopted the system brought by the Bini visitors and acclimatized them to their native language and culture. Why is the Anioma case different? I do not think it is that easy for Bini "princes" to come out running from Bini speaking Igbo and bearing Igbo names. No my dear, it is highly implausible. Why did they have to cross the Niger? Why not go further south or further West? Are you aware that they even journeyed farther into the Igbo hinterlands of Oguta? Going by all the published works of Onicha/Anioma origins, these fugitives should NOT be Igbo speaking, but speaking at worst a corrupted Edo tongue and practicing at worst hybrized forms of Edo traditions. You and I know this is NOT the case. What you have is a case of a group of migrants who were Igbo speaking from day one. And what you have in their midst is clear evidences of an Igbo speaking people who were socio-culturally and politically influenced by Bini. And yes, the superiority thing is actually a form of inferiority complex. No one invaded them or forced them to differentiate themselves from the "inferior" ndi Igbos. They are the ones doing the attaching and detaching, as by all accounts, the people they call "onye Igbo" never copied them or their Bini style monarchies or Bini style political hierarchies. You wont see any vestige of their much acclaimed Bini language, culture or what not among the hinterland Igbos. So there is no chance of corruption of their core "Edo" language or culture by the hinterland Igbos. It was the Bini fugitives who copied, adopted and appropriated everything Igbo. Is that not the reality? It is so glaring that the Bini titles were borrowed when you consider the titles or "afa etutu" of Onicha titled men. Iyase, Odua,Onowu, Owelle title holders etc all have Igbo proper prefixes like Nnanyelugo, Akunne etc. Monarchy in Igbo land is a British phenomenon like you know and had the British not intervened, its more than likely the Igbo clans would have continued in their decentralized system that has been working for them. Infact it is on record that the early warrant chiefs created by the British who transitioned into "kings" paid Onicha chiefs to tutor them on kingship rituals and ceremony. Prior to then, the cultural dominance was Igbo through and through...and it was not forced or taught. It was native. Bini influences and exposure to Bini style monarchies marked the difference btw the Igbo speaking peoples across the Niger along with their Onicha, Ogbaru and Oguta cousins...and the hinterland Igbos. In summary, I think all available evidence point to the fact the people who fled Bini (methinks its actually Bini environs) and moved from Agbor all the way down to Oguta were native Igbo people. Not Edo and have never been Edo till date. The names they still bear, their market days, deities, cultural practices...all point to this fact. Ofcourse, I would love to see contrary evidence. I have been scouting for it. 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:30am On Jan 15, 2017 |
vicenzo: Vincenzo a.k.a pazienza a.k.a Igboid, kindly get off my mentions. Allow only those with a sane, balanced perspective to respond. Thank you! |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by PabloAfricanus(m): 2:32am On Jan 15, 2017 |
laudate: Sorry but do you ever have an opinion of your own? I appreciate your wanting to contribute but do so intelligently. I could be completely wrong in all the points I raised and I am very aware of that. But I notice you are either cheer leading or side quoting and never for ONCE contributing any original thought, opinion, narrative or perspective to any Igbo themed thread. Can we hear your own narrative? We are all here to learn you know. 2 Likes |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:34am On Jan 15, 2017 |
laudate: Lol, is that the only aka you know? You probably see Pazienza in every Igbo that torments your slimy arse. Stay off Igbo/ Igboid related topics, and vicenzo wouldn't have to quote you. Keep dragging your slimy self into all Igbo related threads like a vulture to a carcass, and be sure to get tormented as usual. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:36am On Jan 15, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus: If you read through this thread from the beginning, you would see the areas where I have made my contributions. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:38am On Jan 15, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus: Don't waste your time on him. Dude is suffering from a serious rabid case of Igbophobia. He is always on every Igbo related thread, offering Igbophobic opinions and supporting those with opinions he deems anti Igbo. Leave him for me, I know how to handle him. He is a regular customer of mine. 3 Likes |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:38am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:39am On Jan 15, 2017 |
laudate: What contributions exactly? Who demanded for your opinion here? You are neither Igbo nor Anioma. So, what's your business here? 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:41am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:42am On Jan 15, 2017 |
[quote author=laudate post=52815928][/quote] Really? Same old boring you in a new year. Surely, you can do better. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:42am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:47am On Jan 15, 2017 |
[quote author=laudate post=52815943][/quote] Dude, even fools might be mistaken for wise ones, if they keep silent. If only you can spare this forum of your folly by keeping silent, it will be a better place. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:47am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 2:50am On Jan 15, 2017 |
laudate: Dude. There is nothing good about a slimy, Igbophobic fellow like you, who crawls around the internet looking for Igbo related topics to spread his Igbophobia. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 2:55am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 3:06am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 3:18am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 3:22am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 3:29am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by vicenzo(m): 3:32am On Jan 15, 2017 |
[quote author=laudate post=52816133][/quote] Hate comments? So says the Igbo hating one,that roams NL looking to make hateful or spiteful comments against Igbo. You represent hate. |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 3:46am On Jan 15, 2017 |
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 8:01am On Jan 15, 2017 |
PabloAfricanus:That poster you quoted is the worst kinda person who'd meet...all he does in NL is go about looking for the next Igbo thread he'd jump into. And like you noticed he doesn't contribute anything except what I'd call intellectual hypocrisy of the lowest kind...just in case he tries to beguile you with sprinklings of Igbo phrases here and there know he's not Igbo. Just thought I could give you a headsup 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by months: 9:39am On Jan 15, 2017 |
Ngozi123: Everybody or just a few migrated from Benin? PabloAfricanus:On point and well reasoned essay. 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 10:08am On Jan 15, 2017 |
cheruv: Nah... the 'intellectual hypocrisy' oozes from your veins. You make too many assertions without providing links or references to back them up, so that people can go and verify! Yet you expect folks to swallow your unfounded claims hook, line & sinker. Then you turn around and get upset when people question your baseless tales. We all know your modus operandi. I know you just cannot resist talking & gossiping about me. You have added gossip mongering to your latest bouquet of talents. It is your way of seeking attention. Now, run along - you have been noticed. Are you happy, now? As for your latest lie that "he tries to beguile you with sprinklings of Igbo phrases here and there know he's not Igbo". In what way, have I ever tried to beguile anyone? Have I ever tried to pose as an Igbo person? Never! If you feel that way, please point out in chapter & verse where I have attempted to do so. Include the url links, if you dare. We are waiting!
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Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by cheruv: 10:28am On Jan 15, 2017 |
laudate:I thought we'd an unwritten agreement not to quote each other.. We can make references to each other but not a direct quote...moreover vicenzo leveled exactly the same accusations against you so I now wonder btwn us who's lying Anyway don't quote me anymore...As for my "outrageous" claims,isn't it left for ehikwe and cire80 whom I made the claims to to debunk them Or are you trying as usual to be more Catholic than the Pope 1 Like |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by laudate: 10:34am On Jan 15, 2017 |
cheruv: Oh, you are hiding behind that excuse now, to spew trash about me? Answer the questions, I asked you, if you dare!! And leave other people out of this. I will face those chaps on my own! |
Re: 23 Year Old : Obi Nduka Ezeagwuna II Crowned 20th Obi Of Issele-uku - Pictures by ariesbull: 1:10pm On Jan 15, 2017 |
Cire80: Tell us his birth name Ikhime isn't a Benin name Stop clowning |
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