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Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by paddylo1(m): 5:31am On Dec 13, 2009
Yaradua is in the hospital do you think he has time? As the governor as the state of Lagos he should have been working on this in his own state first.

u dont get it lady. . .the federal govt controls all aspects of generation,distribution and management of power in the country. . even up to setting what price the utility company can charge for power. .

therefore states hands are tied unless there is a change in the law. .

thats what babapupa means by send it to yar adua
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by MissOyinbo: 5:36am On Dec 13, 2009
This lady does does get it and got it along time ago. no need for being condescending, The Nigerian government needs a complete overhaul and basically Fashola is not the guy to do it, man, Thank you, tongue
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 5:55am On Dec 13, 2009
Some states are involved in power generation ventures such as Abia, Rivers, Akwa Ibom and a others. It is not a must that the FGN will do it alone.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by babapupa: 8:20am On Dec 13, 2009
^^^^^Who spends his/her people's money on worthless duplication of federal responsibilities? Only a dumb fool.

Of what use is your power generation scheme if at the end of the day and by law,the power you generate is pipped into the obsolete national grid and your people  still remains in darkness?
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by MissOyinbo: 5:06pm On Dec 13, 2009
If that is the case, the the country will remain in darkness for life because the federal government is not ready to do anything about power supply. They keep quoting trillions in the yearly budget indicating most will go under power supply but we still remain in darkness, wink
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 10:47pm On Dec 13, 2009
babapupa:

^^^^^Who spends his/her people's money on worthless duplication of federal responsibilities? Only a dumb fool.

Of what use is your power generation scheme if at the end of the day and by law,the power you generate is pipped into the obsolete national grid and your people still remains in darkness?

Ode buruku. Have you heard of IPP (independent power production)? It has nothing to do with the national grid but will serve the locality/state in which they exist. That is the case with Geometric power company in Abia State, and those in Akwa Ibom and a few others. Fashola is out on this one.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by babapupa: 11:44pm On Dec 13, 2009
Like I said, only a fool spends his people's money on dumb projects like power generation in Nigeria. Call it IPP, PPP or CCC, it makes no difference because you and your people go still remain in darkness.


Why spend your money on what's not gonna be yours at the end of the day, what you have no control over, what you can not transmit to even your state house talk less to your own people?

And Akwa Ibom and other states are JJC in this area, Lagos state tried it before when Akwa Ibom was still in diapers and it didn't work because by law, every MW got to go be fed in the national grid, same with all your IPP jargon. Is Lagos enjoying uninterrupted power supply? Nope,

Is Akwa Ibom enjoying uninterrupted power supply today? What region of the country is enjoy uninterrupted power supply sef? All they have is license to generate, not to transmit.

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The ceremony to be performed by the state governor, Godswill Akpabio, will commemorate the completion of technical construction of the first phase of the plant expected to generate about 190MW of electricity to be injected into the national grid. The plant is located adjacent to the multi-billion naira Aluminium Smelter Company of Nigeria (ALSCON) plant.

Though the technical construction of the plant, initiated by the immediate past administration of Obong Victor Attah, attained almost 100 percent completion status more than two years ago, its operation and supply of electricity to the national grid was delayed as a result of the non-completion of the construction of the 47-kilometre-long transmission line designed to to convey electricity from the plant to Eket, where it will be injected into the national grid.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:joXNLJL923EJ:234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/5437264-147/story.csp+Akwa+Ibom+power+project+national+grid&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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Afam VI Power Plant, a critical plank on which President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua is anchoring his dream to generate 6000 mega watts by year end is living up to it as about 450mw is now ploughed into the national grid from the plant.

The minister also saw that Afam VI was steadily generating 450mw which is already going to the national grid, and that additional 200mw being produced from the heat turbines would join the national grid in the first quarter of 2010.

www.businessdayonline.com/index.php">http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:saAFIZSCe_UJ:www.businessdayonline.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D6316:afam-v1-adds-450mw-to-grid-as-shell-boosts-gas-supply%26catid%3D1:latest-news%26Itemid%3D18+abia+state+power+national+grid&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a




So, who is the Ode buruku? Sounds like you my friend. You talk too much but you have no clue about anything.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 12:07am On Dec 14, 2009
May be the Akwa Ibom and Delta examples are wrong, but the Geometric one is definitely working as shown in Abuja and currently being replicated in Abia State. So again Fasola is beaten by Abia on this one. Parts of Abuja powered by the Geometric IPP have light 2/4/7/. Read Below

Abuja Emergency Power Project


Abuja Emergency Power Project (Abuja EPP) was an effort to meet the growing demand for electricity and improve the situation of power supply in Nigeria 's capital, Abuja .

In 2000, Geometric Power and its partners established a joint venture after winning a competitive bid to build the first indigenously-owned private-sector power plant in Nigeria . The technical partner on the project was Cummins Power Generation of USA. This pioneer initiative resulted in the building of a 15 Megawatt Abuja Emergency Power Station which is the first power generating station built by the company in Nigeria . This power station came on stream on November 7, 2001 and was officially commissioned in a ceremony by the Vice President of Nigeria, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, on December 21, 2001. This power station operated on demand 24 hours 7 days a week since the commissioning until the end of the EPP contract in March 2004. The company has therefore proven that it is possible to build and sustain a privately owned electric power company in Nigeria .


Achievements of Abuja Emergency Power Project


■Supplied uninterrupted power on demand 24 hours 7 days a week since the commissioning until the end of the EPP contract in March 2004 to the National Electric Power Authority (NEPA) of Nigeria to serve a dedicated distribution network within Abuja and its environs.
■Geometric Power & Renatech, as the sole manager of every facet of the project, was able to complete installation of this first indigenously owned and independently operated power station in a record time.
■Geometric Power therefore proved that it is possible to build and sustain a privately owned electric power company in Nigeria
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 12:09am On Dec 14, 2009
Geometric IPP set to power Aba
Monday, 11 May 2009 01:18 BADEJO ADEMUYIWA
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By 2010 when the $400 million Aba power plant, an initiative of the Geometric Power Plant, commences operation, over 50,000 people will draw their livelihood from the project geared towards providing reliable electricity, generate employment and improve economic activities in Abia State and the country in general.
This number covers the direct staff of the company, staff of new companies that will spring up due to the availability of reliable power, indirect labour and the over 50,000 small businesses especially the leather market in Aba and its environs.
Epileptic power supply has forced many businesses to close shop, leading to a huge unemployment rate. As at December 18, 2008, 4.9 percent of the 50.130 million labour force in Nigeria was without jobs in a country of over 150 million.
Geometric Power is a pioneer IPP and one of the 21 licensed by the Federal Government to compliment the Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) in the provision of reliable of electricity for the country.
It had in 2001 designed and built an emergency power plant in Abuja supplying the power grid to compliment the supply to the metropolis.
As at December 18, 2008, 4.9 percent of the 50.130 million labour force in Nigeria was without jobs in a country of over 150 million.
The 188 megawatts Aba plant is scheduled for completion by December 2009 and, according to Barth Nnaji, its managing director, will draw its workforce from both locally and externally for its direct and indirect labour requirements.
“We had always estimated that direct staff of the company will be about 500 and then you have, when you are talking about livelihood, about 5,000 and 10,000”.
“Yes, we have extremely high quality staff we have recruited from all over the world to work with. Those who are working with the company are both non-Nigerians and Nigerians but mostly Nigerians, you will be amazed seeing many high quality Nigerians who have worked abroad have come back to be part of the enterprise”.
This workforce will be complimented by staff of the PHCN desiring to work for Geometric Power so as to defuse the huge labour being shouldered by the government. “Of course, the PHCN staff is welcomed to work for the company that is really what the reform is about, government needs not to carry the burden of staff than it currently carries”
Besides, Nnaji said the plant would provide livelihood to secondary people including those who sell food along the way as well as those who are going to be selling telecoms scratch cards who are not directly employed by the company but make a living directly from the company.
In the case of small manufacturers, capacity utilization would increase as “there would be people who now will be working second or third shifts instead of one shift. Now no one person works three shifts, it will have to be new people and that one creates employment”.
“You will really quite have a lot of the people, the people who are small manufacturer in Aba over 60,000 of them in leather industry, imagine if now you have two or three shifts of that alone that is huge. You are now talking about 50,000 employed just because you have reliable electricity”.
Regarding those to come from the public sector to work for the plant, there is a plan for their re-orientation to adapt to the mentality of the private sector.
“Yes, when we hire PHCN workers and others, we intend to train them further. There is a certain programme we are setting up - “Public to Private”. They all have to be trained at the very least there is reorientation from the public sector to the private sector. People have to know that they are now working for the private sector, so that there is a way they have to perform to be able to deliver reliable service”.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by babapupa: 12:19am On Dec 14, 2009
Dude, I admire your tenacity and I see you're trying desperately to prove what's not provable, but unfortunately, you dey use am to argue blindly and cluelessly confusing yourself in the process.

Abuja is not a state, it's called Federal capital Territory  FCT.

We're talking about states generating electricity. Cut through the chase and just tell me Abia and Akwa are enjoying uninterrupted power supply.


Abeg stop posting all the meaningless rubbish.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 2:03am On Dec 14, 2009
Well, Aba and environs powered by Geometric company will be on 2/4/7 soon. Before Fasola starts his own, the whole of Abia would have been lighted 2/4/7
My point was to let you know that you do not have to connect to the national grid or even if you do, it will not affect your IPP for its dedicated areas. You are a complete illiterate on such matters, I know. Ode pangolo grin
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by olafolarin(m): 3:05am On Dec 14, 2009
mekusxxx:

Well, Aba and environs powered by Geometric company will be on 2/4/7 soon. Before Fasola starts his own, the whole of Abia would have been lighted 2/4/7
My point was to let you know that you do not have to connect to the national grid or even if you do, it will not affect your IPP for its dedicated areas. You are a complete illiterate on such matters, I know. Ode pangolo grin
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In as much as i respect the depth of your research,you still left so much out of the box.
The Abuja project was funded by the FG(as FCT has no functional govt)as a test and pioneer project.It ran for some months independently before being connected to the Federal grid.
The Aba project however is a very expensive state project($400m) which will bring succour to only 50k people.As at today,the project is nowhere near advanced phase.

Lagos population is in its tens of millions and it will take over a billion dollar well concieved,designed,implemented and executed power masterplan for every lagosian to enjoy a stable power supply.
And how do you know there is no plan on ground to that effect?
Transformers of international standard were being produced in Badagry,Lagos to cater for the local and international market.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 3:12am On Dec 14, 2009
^^^^^^

Aba 50k people? You must be a joker. Get lost with your lies.

If there is an IPP plan for Lagos, somebody should just say so and not condemning what Abia and others are doing
Lagos can do IPP for highly industrial areas only, to start with.
A transformer on its own is useless without the power source. So that is actually the wastage here and not IPP
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by olafolarin(m): 3:29am On Dec 14, 2009
Establishing IPP is not a problem.But the fusion with PHCN is the real problem.Enron had similar proble with the then NEPA in Lagos.

PHCN whollly controls power distribution in Nigeria with the exception of new territories(e.g Eko Atlantic City)What that means in effect is that IPP can generate power but it still have to be sent to PHCN for distribution.
Kwara State for instance just commissioned a brand new power plant.The power generated from the plant will be connected to the national grid but consideration will be given to the generation source.That means if Kwara generates 80 MW of electricity which is enough for thr entire populace,it might get just 30-50 MW from PHCN.
No matter what you generate PHCN will still distribute as it pleases.
Thats the most discouraging part of power supply in generation in Nigeria
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 3:38am On Dec 14, 2009
^^^^
So where did you get the stupid idea that Aba is 50k people only? Talk now or forever shut up.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by olafolarin(m): 3:45am On Dec 14, 2009
From the Newspaper piece you culled,i read but misquote somewhere that it's just for 50k people.But what it actually meant is that it'll create 50,ooo jobs and new opportunities
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 3:54am On Dec 14, 2009
Thanks for looking and reading well. Aba and its environ is probably more than 2 million people.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by olafolarin(m): 3:59am On Dec 14, 2009
2 million is still a small % of lagos population.More assiduous field-work,research and plan will be needed to develop a sustainable power generation outfit for lagos state.
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by mekusxxx: 4:55am On Dec 14, 2009
^^^^^^
That is Aba alone (and its environ). So you can imagine what the figure is for the entire Abia state. Do you at least know the difference between Aba and Abia?
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by queenesthr(f): 10:31am On Dec 14, 2009
I am yet to benefit from Fashola's administration. Lagos roads are as bad as ever, the roads are still flooded during the rainy season, area boys still reign supreme, security is no better, public schools are still in a shambles, no marked improvement in health care delivery. Can someone please point out the achievements for me?
Re: Babatunde Fashola For President by maxsiollun: 12:13am On Dec 15, 2009
If Fashola becomes President, it will ruin his reputation. All Nigerian presidents were hailed as saviours and were popular BEFORE they came to office. Yes, even the now dreaded IBB and Abacha were initially hailed as saviours. Rulership has a way of tarnishing ones reputation in Nigeria. He should serve out 8 years in Lagos, then perhaps become a Minister.

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