AntiWailer:



This is the response from Obama's team.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/trump-obama-wiretap-tweet/index.html

Be ashamed of yourself and your orange head mentor.

Only Trump Lies on camera and his supporters still say nothing

As usual u send me a fake new CNN link with an "empty fact " a worthless denial by a former Obama employee ..

Does the former employee recieve intelligence briefing now ? NO

Does Trump currently recieve high grade intelligence briefing ? Yes

Does Obama still recieve intelligence briefing ? NO

Would Trump make up a story like this without solid facts ? NO


Bro no matter how you and CNN try you will fail

SalamRushdie:


As usual u send me a fake new CNN link with an "empty fact " a worthless denial by a former Obama employee ..

Does the former employee recieve intelligence briefing now ? NO

Does Trump currently recieve high grade intelligence briefing ? Yes

Does Obama still recieve intelligence briefing ? NO

Would Trump make up a story like this without solid facts ? NO


Bro no matter how you and CNN try you will fail

When it is favorable, it is correct like the poll you quoted earlier today on his speech.

When it is not,, it is fake news.


The bolded shows that you are ignorant and a learner when it comes to Trump. You are just an overzealous kid saying what you know nothing about.

Trump stood there and claimed his election was the biggest electoral victory since Reagan. He was fact checked and said rubbish like.

"I was given the information"

The eediot claimed Something happened in Sweden and nothing happened.

So CNN helped him.

He once claimed that Obama was not born in the United STATES.

Stop defending what is impossible. It only makes you dumber.

With Trump I understand that you can be the Most Powerful Man in the world and still have low self esteem.

You actually referred to Kevin Lewis as one Obama Employee. I dont blame you, Trump once called a Judge "So called Judge"

abbey621:
While Trump might look insecure and at times crazy, it's all part of the show. Keep thy enemies on edge and surprise them at every corner. I voted for Trump because he was the only outsider that had a chance of winning. His policies are straightforward and unless you are a liberal sheep you would understand:

1. Keep those wanting to do us harm out of this country, it is unfortunate that these people happen to be Muslims in extremist countries and Mexicans who illegally crossed into the U.S with histories of criminal activities. Even though all you haters hear is that Trump calls Mexicans criminals and hates all Muslims.

Kids with guns have killed more Americans than Muslims and Mexicans put together. Last year, Lawn mowers killed more Americans than muslims and Mexicans last year. Anybody who wants to stop the indiscriminate killings of Americans needs to start from gun control, anything other thing is just noise. Also the 7 countries in EO ban have killed a total of 0 Americans....So when Trump bans Saudi's from the US, you can bring this up

abbey621:

2. Grow the economy at a rate of 3% or higher. How? Remove the ridiculous taxes on businesses. No country taxes businesses more than the U.S, at a rate of 33%, it is a job killing policy. Once the regulations and taxation are lowered, companies will bring jobs back to the USA instead of shipping them to India or Mexico.

Jobs that have left the US are never coming back and it has nothing to do with taxes. Mexico has trade deals with 44 countries plus low wages.

3. Renegotiate Trade deals: NAFTA and other trade deals puts the US at trillions in deficit every year, no more wasteful USA!

abbey621:

4. Repeal and replace Obamacare: This is perhaps the closest to my heart. I rarely get sick, when I do I have enough savings to pay my hospital bills but for Obamacare to make it compulsory that I must have health insurance or pay a tax of almost $1000 a year is DEMONIC! To make things worse, my premium just went up 25%, you might as well shoot me in the a**! Trump's plan is to enable a cross state insurance policy, where consumers are free to shop providers all across the U.S, this would result to lesser premiums and a mre robust healthcare system but some of the Republicans want Obamacare completely gone so this might be a long fight in Congress.

Well some people are good drivers but they still have to buy care insurance. Trump has NO plan, i repeat NO plan. He boasted during campaign that repealing Obamacare is the first thing he'll do once in office, Republicans have control of both houses yet they still can't repeal it because they have no solid replacement...

abbey621:

Finally, I watch CNN and I laugh. For 8 years we had nothing but a president that promoted homosexuality, political correctness, mugu money spender policies but such policies are not sustainable in the long run, I'm not surprised that a news network that was supposed to be impartial basically announced Trump had no chance of winning and even after his victory kept trying to raise chaos. Obama brought the economy back from a point of collapse but at the same time made life a living hell for the Middle Class. More of the country depended on handouts from the government, those that were employed are subjected to higher taxation, lower wages and lower quality jobs. More companies folded up or moved jobs out yet the big corporations were given a stimulus package resulting in a national debt of almost 20 TRILLION DOLLARS. Such a policy cannot continue! So you may bash Trump based on the propaganda you have been fed but realize he is exactly what America needed! He owns or has shares of over 300 companies with a failure rate of less than 10%, he is business minded and just like any other business minded billionaire, he is not going to hide his feelings, some call it arrogance, I call it draining the swamp!

You mean Trump that has declared for bankruptcy 6 times? A guy who basically could not run a casino when ever other casino in America was killing it? Please, there's a reason why Trump won't release his tax returns, he knows he's a fraud and releasing them would show his supporters like you that he truly is a fraud.
A guy who complained about Obama playing golf has been to his private club the last 5 weekends....

PS: Obama was the President of all Americans and that includes the LGBT people, you don't have to like it but he swore an OATH to protect them and he kept to that OATH.
PS: If Republicans had done well, Obama wouldn't have needed to bail out the Auto industry, Wall Street e.t.c

AntiWailer:



This is the response from Obama's team.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/04/politics/trump-obama-wiretap-tweet/index.html

Be ashamed of yourself and your orange head mentor.

Only Trump Lies on camera and his supporters still say nothing

Did FISA under Obama got the warrant for Trumps wiretapping? Yes.

Did won't go down well for both Democrats and Republican

OBAGADAFFI:




Did FISA under Obama got the warrant for Trumps wiretapping? Yes.

Did won't go down well for both Democrats and Republican

Yes ?

Does executive have power to wire tap ?

You are ignorant bro.

SalamRushdie:

Does Obama still recieve intelligence briefing ? NO

All ex presidents still get daily briefing.(Some choose not to bother about it like Bush Senior). Just like you didn't know about the President not being able to order a wire tap. Seems like you Trump supports have a hard time knowing facts are different from opinions

SalamRushdie:

Would Trump make up a story like this without solid facts ? NO

Who made up the "Obama" wasn't born in America story?

AZeD1:

All ex presidents still get daily briefing.(Some choose not to bother about it like Bush Senior). Just like you didn't know about the President not being able to order a wire tap. Seems like you Trump supports have a hard time knowing facts are different from opinions

Who made up the "Obama" wasn't born in America story?

But we know Obama wasn't born in the US and Obama knows

AZeD1:

Kids with guns have killed more Americans than Muslims and Mexicans put together. Last year, Lawn mowers killed more Americans than muslims and Mexicans last year. Anybody who wants to stop the indiscriminate killings of Americans needs to start from gun control, anything other thing is just noise. Also the 7 countries in EO ban have killed a total of 0 Americans....So when Trump bans Saudi's from the US, you can bring this up


Jobs that have left the US are never coming back and it has nothing to do with taxes. Mexico has trade deals with 44 countries plus low wages.

3. Renegotiate Trade deals: NAFTA and other trade deals puts the US at trillions in deficit every year, no more wasteful USA!


Well some people are good drivers but they still have to buy care insurance. Trump has NO plan, i repeat NO plan. He boasted during campaign that repealing Obamacare is the first thing he'll do once in office, Republicans have control of both houses yet they still can't repeal it because they have no solid replacement...


You mean Trump that has declared for bankruptcy 6 times? A guy who basically could not run a casino when ever other casino in America was killing it? Please, there's a reason why Trump won't release his tax returns, he knows he's a fraud and releasing them would show his supporters like you that he truly is a fraud.
A guy who complained about Obama playing golf has been to his private club the last 5 weekends....

PS: Obama was the President of all Americans and that includes the LGBT people, you don't have to like it but he swore an OATH to protect them and he kept to that OATH.
PS: If Republicans had done well, Obama wouldn't have needed to bail out the Auto industry, Wall Street e.t.c

I don't have time to pick apart everyone of your point but I'll deal with two:

Kids with guns have killed more Americans than Muslims and Mexicans put together. Were these kids of only American backgrounds? Could it be that some of them were of Latino and Islamic backgrounds? If so your statistics might be skewed. Furthermore, you are still missing the point, even if only 1 American dies because of illegal immigrants or radical extremists that would be too much for every life is sacred. A country without proper enforcement of its immigration laws is not a country but a dumping ground! If America crashed today, a lot of the so called immigrants would run back to their countries, so I do not blame Trump for taking a hard stance on illegal immigration and radical Islamism. As an immigrant and a Muslim myself, I can not fault him!

You mean Trump that has declared for bankruptcy 6 times? A guy who basically could not run a casino when ever other casino in America was killing it? Please, there's a reason why Trump won't release his tax returns, he knows he's a fraud and releasing them would show his supporters like you that he truly is a fraud.

Spoken like a true novice, before you rely on CNN for your facts you might want to examine bankruptcy laws and how they work. Trump never declared for bankruptcy on the contrary the businesses that he ran did. Of those 6 businesses, Trump only owned 2, the other 4 were co-owned. Now unless you are some business tycoon that can guaranty never to fail at any business, give the man a break he currently has over 300 businesses, to me that is a success! Finally, you call him a fraud for not releasing his tax return but fail to mention there is no law commanding him to do so, would it be a good gesture? Yes! Would people have more confidence in him? Yes! Is he mandated to release them? Absolutely not! Like a popular addage goes, what business does someone that already had a wedding have with a wedding gown?

Lucasbalo:
Speech or speeches doesn't make any country great, it's performance that makes a country great. What you say doesn't matter, it's what you do that counts. Hope you get my gist.

Without mixing of words, president Trump will match actions to what he promised the america electorate when he was campaigning. The immigration is one, TPP,NAFTA and other. He called them bad deals and must be renegotiated.

AntiWailer:


Yes ?

Does executive have power to wire tap ?

You are ignorant bro.

You probably don't know how US system works.

So learn -

Pursuant to FISA, the Court entertains applications submitted by the United States Government for approval of electronic surveillance, physical search, and other investigative actions for foreign intelligence purposes. Most of the Court’s work is conducted ex parte as required by statute, and due to the need to protect classified national security information.

OBAGADAFFI:


You probably don't know how US system works.

So learn -

Pursuant to FISA, the Court entertains applications submitted by the United States Government for approval of electronic surveillance, physical search, and other investigative actions for foreign intelligence purposes. Most of the Court’s work is conducted ex parte as required by statute, and due to the need to protect classified national security information.

Learn Further .

Warrants to tap into someone's phones in the course of a federal investigation would be sought by the Department of Justice, which conducts investigations independent of the White House and the president.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, an independent and secretive federal court, is responsible for issuing surveillance warrants in cases concerning foreign intelligence. The FBI has been investigating contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russians known to US intelligence, and that court would likely be the forum to petition for such a warrant.

The former senior US official with direct knowledge of the Justice Department's investigations said Obama could not have ordered such a warrant. It would have been taken to a judge by investigators, but investigators never sought a warrant to monitor Trump's phones, the former official said.

ldpele:
Without mixing of words, president Trump will match actions to what he promised the america electorate when he was campaigning. The immigration is one, TPP,NAFTA and other. He called them bad deals and must be renegotiated.

He doesn't have immigration policy. Bigotry is not a policy and so far he's a failure as president.

abbey621:


Spoken like a true novice, before you rely on CNN for your facts you might want to examine bankruptcy laws and how they work. Trump never declared for bankruptcy on the contrary the businesses that he ran did. Of those 6 businesses, Trump only owned 2, the other 4 were co-owned. Now unless you are some business tycoon that can guaranty never to fail at any business, give the man a break he currently has over 300 businesses, to me that is a success! Finally, you call him a fraud for not releasing his tax return but fail to mention there is no law commanding him to do so, would it be a good gesture? Yes! Would people have more confidence in him? Yes! Is he mandated to release them? Absolutely not! Like a popular addage goes, what business does someone that already had a wedding have with a wedding gown?

Spoken like a true Trump supporter, when someone brings facts claim CNN or wherever the person got is from is fake.
Trump failed at a Casino business when everyone knows in gambling, the house always wins, yet Trump failed at it. Trump ran a fake university, this is a fact...
Trump over 300 business? Dude please,
He is not mandated to show his tax returns but we all know Trump has lots of shady things he is hiding.

Why has Trump refused to put his Business in a blind trust?

AntiWailer:



Learn Further .

On 15 October, the US secret intelligence court issued a warrant to investigate two Russian banks. This news was given to me by several sources and corroborated by someone I will identify only as a senior member of the US intelligence community. He would never volunteer anything - giving up classified information would be illegal - but he would confirm or deny what I had heard from other sources.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

AZeD1:

Spoken like a true Trump supporter, when someone brings facts claim CNN or wherever the person got is from is fake.
Trump failed at a Casino business when everyone knows in gambling, the house always wins, yet Trump failed at it. Trump ran a fake university, this is a fact...
Trump over 300 business? Dude please,
He is not mandated to show his tax returns but we all know Trump has lots of shady things he is hiding.

Why has Trump refused to put his Business in a blind trust?

90% of the Billionaires in the world have shady dealings, that is none of my business! The fact remains he has over 300 businesses. I can't help but laugh, just because a business declares bankruptcy does not mean they never made profit. It just means the amount of money they financed could no longer be justified by the profits they were making. I understand you are still a kid but let me give you this quote, " Show me a successful man and I'll show you a man that has failed many times". Finally you speak of blind trust, please shut up! If na your papa worked so hard to build an empire would you accept that all his companies be put into a trust instead of the hands of you his child? It's easy to criticize but 90% of us would do the same, there's no law making it compulsory for him to put his assets in a blind trust? So why the fuss? You should blame the lawmakers for not having foresight!

In the letter to the FBI director, James Comey, Mr Reid said: "In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and co-ordination between Donald Trump, his top advisers, and the Russian government - a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Mr Trump praises at every opportunity.
"The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information."

The CIA, FBI, Justice and Treasury all refused to comment when I approached them after hearing about the Fisa warrant.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

Kindly check the date of this news. This information has been out before Trump tweet.

Lucasbalo:
He doesn't have immigration policy. Bigotry is not a policy and so far he's a failure as president.

Your not just fair to him, the executive order regarding immigrants will be repealed and present again. He has said it that the national security isn't negotiable and tough policies must be taking to preserve it.

donsteady:
Trump's twitt this morning is a clear symptom of cocaine withdrawal. He started with poor spelling, national security, down to apprentice and other irrelevants shiit... Buhari is better than trump. The last blunder of Buhari was when he said his wife belong to the other room. Since then he hasn't said a thing.

That's the last blunder because that's the last time he spoke in his healthy state!

ldpele:
Your not just fair to him, the executive order regarding immigrants will be repealed and present again. He has said it that the national security isn't negotiable and tough policies must be taking to preserve it.

I hate his bigotry but I do not hate him personally.

OBAGADAFFI:


On 15 October, the US secret intelligence court issued a warrant to investigate two Russian banks. This news was given to me by several sources and corroborated by someone I will identify only as a senior member of the US intelligence community. He would never volunteer anything - giving up classified information would be illegal - but he would confirm or deny what I had heard from other sources.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

What dont u understand about what you are quoting ?

There is need for a court warrant to tap and they said, They never obtain and never tapped.

Also they have said it that Obama separated the executive from getting involved in any form of investigation and which makes it impossible for him to order tapping without a court order.

abbey621:


90% of the Billionaires in the world have shady dealings, that is none of my business! The fact remains he has over 300 businesses. I can't help but laugh, just because a business declares bankruptcy does not mean they never made profit. It just means the amount of money they financed could no longer be justified by the profits they were making. I understand you are still a kid but let me give you this quote, " Show me a successful man and I'll show you a man that has failed many times". Finally you speak of blind trust, please shut up! If na your papa worked so hard to build an empire would you accept that all his companies be put into a trust instead of the hands of you his child? It's easy to criticize but 90% of us would do the same, there's no law making it compulsory for him to put his assets in a blind trust? So why the fuss? You should blame the lawmakers for not having foresight!

For someone who talks of "draining the swamp", coming to equity with clean hands is the first thing that should be on your mind. Every one with a brain knows Trump wasn't going to put his company in a blind trust or release his tax returns, His plan is to use the position as President to finally make up the billions he claims he owns.

Successful people, learn from their mistakes, not Trump...

AntiWailer:


What dont u understand about what you are quoting ?

There is need for a court warrant to tap and they said, They never obtain and never tapped.

Also they have said it that Obama separated the executive from getting involved in any form of investigation and which makes it impossible for him to order tapping without a court order.

Mr, they got they warrant and carried on with the investigation against the Russian links to Trump.

Of course, Obama will distance himself from this because it's an covert operation.

Lucasbalo:
I hate his bigotry but I do not hate him personally.

He just need time to start acting presidential not the partisan person u feel he is. His never a bigot.

AZeD1:

For someone who talks of "draining the swamp", coming to equity with clean hands is the first thing that should be on your mind. Every one with a brain knows Trump wasn't going to put his company in a blind trust or release his tax returns, His plan is to use the position as President to finally make up the billions he claims he owns.

Successful people, learn from their mistakes, not Trump...

Another fallacy, draining the swamp simply means bringing in an outsider. It has nothing to do with financial status. If you truly knew how the U.S works you wouldn't talk about the presidency being enriched through shady deals, this is not 9ja. Everything he does is under a microscope and I have no doubt Congress would keep him in check, unless you are insinuating that Congress would be in on the shady deals as well....LMAO! Every president gets richer when in office, there are plenty of legal avenues for that so don't worry.

abbey621:


Another fallacy, draining the swamp simply means bringing in an outsider. It has nothing to do with financial status. If you truly knew how the U.S works you wouldn't talk about the presidency being enriched through shady deals, this is not 9ja. Everything he does is under a microscope and I have no doubt Congress would keep him in check, unless you are insinuating that Congress would be in on the shady deals as well....LMAO! Every president gets richer when in office, there are plenty of legal avenues for that so don't worry.

Trumps private club in Mar-a-Lago has doubled its membership fee, Trump has spent 5 of the last 6 weekends there, who does that benefit financially?
Trump brings his kids to meeting with American Tech Ceo's, what for? To serve wine?
Trump files his intention to run in the next election immediately after his inauguration, which means his campaign organisation can legally start collecting funds. He hadn't spent a day in office but plans to run for the next election, why?

As for congress keeping him in check, Republicans control both houses, if they had plans of keeping him check, they would not have confirmed some of his nominees.

abbey621:


Do you live in the USA? If so where? Because what you just wrote above is jargon! Firstly there were plenty of exceptions under the old system for various types of pregnancies and even if one provider turns you down, you end up choosing from several other options. After all some of my aunts, neighbors, colleagues and peers gave birth under the old system and were covered by insurance, stop making silly generalization! Was it more expensive? Perhaps! But was coverage available? Absolutely! Next, do you understand the meaning of the word average? While I'm not disputing medical costs could reach upwards into millions, all I'm saying is the average cost of surgeries is bout $20k when you factor in the highs, the lows and divide by the number of occurrences. Finally, if you understood how the USA works, you would know it is a nation of debts. You can have debts of a million or more and those debts could be wiped away easily as long as you can prove you don't have the means to pay, I put my credit score out there so you know the various means of finance available to me, one surgery can wreck most people but it can never wreck someonee that knows how to make the system work for him or her. I worked with a very large insurance company for over 4 years and I've seen various forms of accidents, when I say average medical costs is 20k, I didn't pull the figure out of my a** you know

It is up to you to determine whether i live in the US or not. I don't have to prove anything to you. What i hate is when someone generalizes based on hearsay. Did any of your aunties, neighbours and colleagues get pregnant when they had no insurance and then get a new job? Stop unnecessary generalizations. They probably had insurance. By the way, i am not talking about people that were under medicaid in the past. Why are you arguing unnecessarily. I bet the aunties you referred to are married or were married. If married, it doesn't apply because your husbands policy will carry you. I specifically said, single WOMEN and you are rambling. If you were single, lost your job or had no job, were not covered by medicaid, got pregnant, got a new job this applied to you in the past.

What happened was that the insurance companies would "chose" if they wanted to pay or not. With Obamacare they have no choice. YOU ARE COVERED.

Your use of average surgery costs in this context is wrong. By the way, you do know, you still have to add hospital stays and physician costs to the actual surgery bill. The odds you will get into the hospital for a low cost surgery if/when you do have one are low. As an example, an out of status Nigerian student had to remove his appendix. His bill ended up being 48,000 and change because he spent more time in the hospital recovering. Of course he didn't pay and had to enter an agreement and they reduced it to less than 9,000 with a payment plan.

Another guy ended up being tboned at an intersection. Spent a one week on life support and another 8weeks. Bill ran up to 1.2 mill.
My point is that for you to think that you will end up in the 20,000 range is rather myopic. This is why it is called insurance. Even though you don't need it now, chances are when you do need it, it will end up saving your life due to the unexpected HIGH costs.

There you go bragging again. Yeah you have a high credit score. Okay, say you get in a bad accident and your bill runs in the millions. You pull out your credit cards to pay the debt. What happens when your require further treatment and you've maxed your credit cards?
You apply for another credit card or loan? OOps, you now have no job so how easy will it be to get approved?

I repeat, stop bragging. Thank God you are not in this situation. There are people that were 5 times richer and on a better footing than you that went bankrupt because of a simple medical situation. This is not my opinion. It happened to several people in the past. For you to think the "change or access to credit" that you have can secure your medical freedom is a fallacy.

AZeD1:


Trumps private club in Mar-a-Lago has doubled its membership fee, Trump has spent 5 of the last 6 weekends there, who does that benefit financially?
Trump brings his kids to meeting with American Tech Ceo's, what for? To serve wine?
Trump files his intention to run in the next election immediately after his inauguration, which means his campaign organisation can legally start collecting funds. He hadn't spent a day in office but plans to run for the next election, why?

As for congress keeping him in check, Republicans control both houses, if they had plans of keeping him check, they would not have confirmed some of his nominees.

All the things you mentioned, did he break any law? Or are you just looking for needle in a haystack? You keep forgetting he has critics from both Democrats and Republicans, or did you choose to just ignore....lol

ldpele:
He just need time to start acting presidential not the partisan person u feel he is. His never a bigot.

Obviously you don't know much about him. Let me give you few instances of his bigotry. Google Central Park Five and see his blatant racism against five young black men who he wants for them to be executed for a crime they did not commit . He is a chief Birther conspiracy theorist of Obama not being born in America to deligitimize Obama and up till today he's still unrepentant about his birtherism. He and his father had to pay millions of $ for not renting their buildings to blacks and other minorities in New York. I can go on but his bigotry has no end. Stephen Bannon, Steven Miller and Jeff sessions are some of the racists he empowers over America. Why would I respect a guy like trump as my president in a multi cultural society like America.

abbey621:


90% of the Billionaires in the world have shady dealings, that is none of my business! The fact remains he has over 300 businesses. I can't help but laugh, just because a business declares bankruptcy does not mean they never made profit. It just means the amount of money they financed could no longer be justified by the profits they were making. I understand you are still a kid but let me give you this quote, " Show me a successful man and I'll show you a man that has failed many times". Finally you speak of blind trust, please shut up! If na your papa worked so hard to build an empire would you accept that all his companies be put into a trust instead of the hands of you his child? It's easy to criticize but 90% of us would do the same, there's no law making it compulsory for him to put his assets in a blind trust? So why the fuss? You should blame the lawmakers for not having foresight!

No need to sugar coat it. If a business files bankruptcy, it means it is cash flow negative. It is not running a profit. Shikena. Let's stop making someone look smart because he used bankruptcy laws to his advantage. When a business files bankruptcy, a lot of people lose money, contractors don't get paid etc. Someone did this 4 times and people make it seem like it is okay.

abbey621:


All the things you mentioned, did he break any law? Or are you just looking for needle in a haystack? You keep forgetting he has critics from both Democrats and Republicans, or did you choose to just ignore....lol

I have not said anything about Trump breaking the law, i said he wouldn't release his tax returns or put his business in a blind trust because he plans to use his position as President to make money and that is what he is doing starting with his private club.

Lucasbalo:
Obviously you don't know much about him. Let me give you few instances of his bigotry. Google Central Park Five and see his blatant racism against five young black men who he wants for them to be executed for a crime they did not commit . He is a chief Birther conspiracy theorist of Obama not being born in America to deligitimize Obama and up till today he's still unrepentant about his birtherism. He and his father had to pay millions of $ for not renting their buildings to blacks and other minorities in New York. I can go on but his bigotry has no end. Stephen Bannon, Steven Miller and Jeff sessions are some of the racists he empowers over America. Why would I respect a guy like trump as my president in a multi cultural society like America.

Can't lay my hands regarding his response to those central park five, i think it was handle during electioneering and properly done even though much emphasises can't be placed on it, however, the justice system treated fairly with it. For Obama's birther issues, that was purely election schemes. Trump had a taste of it as well.

EbolaParasite:


It is up to you to determine whether i live in the US or not. I don't have to prove anything to you. What i hate is when someone generalizes based on hearsay. Did any of your aunties, neighbours and colleagues get pregnant when they had no insurance and then get a new job? Stop unnecessary generalizations. They probably had insurance. By the way, i am not talking about people that were under medicaid in the past. Why are you arguing unnecessarily. I bet the aunties you referred to are married or were married. If married, it doesn't apply because your husbands policy will carry you. I specifically said, single WOMEN and you are rambling. If you were single, lost your job or had no job, were not covered by medicaid, got pregnant, got a new job this applied to you in the past.

What happened was that the insurance companies would "chose" if they wanted to pay or not. With Obamacare they have no choice. YOU ARE COVERED.

Your use of average surgery costs in this context is wrong. By the way, you do know, you still have to add hospital stays and physician costs to the actual surgery bill. The odds you will get into the hospital for a low cost surgery if/when you do have one are low. As an example, an out of status Nigerian student had to remove his appendix. His bill ended up being 48,000 and change because he spent more time in the hospital recovering. Of course he didn't pay and had to enter an agreement and they reduced it to less than 9,000 with a payment plan.

Another guy ended up being tboned at an intersection. Spent a one week on life support and another 8weeks. Bill ran up to 1.2 mill.
My point is that for you to think that you will end up in the 20,000 range is rather myopic. This is why it is called insurance. Even though you don't need it now, chances are when you do need it, it will end up saving your life due to the unexpected HIGH costs.

There you go bragging again. Yeah you have a high credit score. Okay, say you get in a bad accident and your bill runs in the millions. You pull out your credit cards to pay the debt. What happens when your require further treatment and you've maxed your credit cards?
You apply for another credit card or loan? OOps, you now have no job so how easy will it be to get approved?

I repeat, stop bragging. Thank God you are not in this situation. There are people that were 5 times richer and on a better footing than you that went bankrupt because of a simple medical situation. This is not my opinion. It happened to several people in the past. For you to think the "change or access to credit" that you have can secure your medical freedom is a fallacy.

I asked where in the US you are based so that I can understand where you are coming from but never mind. Since you failed to understand the meaning of the word average and you continuously fail to understand majority of Americans do not have medical bills in the millions. I even went ahead and acknowledged that in rare circumstances medical bills could be in the millions but you still insists on talking about rare cases instead of the statistics for majority of people living in America. Let's move on from that, insurance is nothing but protection against risks but God is the ultimate protector. Who are you to dictate how I deal with risks? I worked in the insurance industry a long time and know all there is to know about risks. Your analogy of being in an accident and ending up on life support is just like saying don't drive cars because you might end up in an accident and be killed. Your analogy also sounds like you would be willing to justify paying 20,000 dollars a year on health insurance and an increase every year after. When does the madness stop? Finally I'm not immune to anything, if it happens it happens but I'm well secured in my savings, investments and my credit facilities to sleep easy at night. It's not bragging it is reality, if the situation you mentioned happened to many people does not mean it will happen to me, I refuse to live life based on fear mongering, Obamacare is a failure not because of it's principles but because it is not sustainable, premiums will continue to rise and I cannot justify 25% to 40% increase every year just because there's a risk I might need it in the future, this is my personal situation and a lot of Americans agree.