Sagamite i'm sorry to say the criteria you've mentioned do not give considerations to such limitations, if we were to have a comparative analysis, as ; type of govt, economic embargoes placed or lifted, price of oil (when 90% of your dollar earner is from one product) and other differences in their circumstances.
I guess what we should be asking is if Abacha would have fared better as a democratically elected leader of Nigeria, if There's such a thing as a democratically elected president in Nigeria.

Sagamite:

Only dimwits would not be able to display their counter arguments.

If I have to counter every single stupid and useless argument by people like you on this forum we shall get to the year 2090 and still be on it.

Is that how you think you learn? By posting nonsense and waiting for others to correct them so you can learn? I would rather you remained stuck with the ignorant views you have currently.

edoyad:

Sagamite i'm sorry to say the criteria you've mentioned do not give considerations to such limitations, if we were to have a comparative analysis, as ; type of govt, economic embargoes placed or lifted, price of oil (when 90% of your dollar earner is from one product) and other differences in their circumstances.
I guess what we should be asking is if Abacha would have fared better as a democratically elected leader of Nigeria, if There's such a thing as a democratically elected president in Nigeria.

There are 3 areas of criteria there. Some would be partially dependent on the other e.g.

- Your GDP or FDI might be affected by net migration (brain drain), healthcare management (a population where majority of the workforce is AIDS-riden can not be productive), corruption management.

- Or your point above.

It should be the job of the government to manage this complexities. Abacha should be ensuring his actions does not negatively impact so much on the nation. And it is not like if anything stops him from being a democratically elected leader. Actually I think the argument is the other way round, a democratic leader can give excuses of not having the totalitarian power of a dictator.

Even if we allow excuses, there is no excuse in failing in all 3 areas.

Afam:

If I have to counter every single silly and useless argument by people like you on this forum we shall get to the year 2090 and still be on it.

Is that how you think you learn? By posting nonsense and waiting for others to correct them so you can learn? I would rather you remained stuck with the ignorant views you have currently.

Lame as expected.

"Me and you no dey for the same o catego

Me and you no dey for the same o catego

No be same category o!"

Adrenaline:

Let's face it, If we can be so dissatisfied as to even think of comparing Govt so far to Abacha's Govt, then things really are very bad

No, we are not dissatisfied to compare. Just one cre.tin that collected money from Abacha is now making noise to get relevance and as usual our mo.ronic journalists gave him a platform.

^ Dude things are really bad if you don't know. Nigeria is below Cameroun these days in the UN HDI rankings , infact saw on the news about a forthnight ago that half of Nigeria's population was officially poor. Or are you one of those who'll say It's a good thing cos that means 70+ million people aren't poor ?

how old are you people. who killed ken saro wiwa   Abacha.

who killed Abiola                     Abacha
who killed Musa Yar adua           Abacha

etc etc

Who put 5 billion dollar abroad  Abacha,

So you say abacha was good, How ?? So are you saying Author eze no  get money again. na waho

Why one of yar adua mistake was he carried all of abacha boys and put in his govt, go and see where yar adua is not, sick. How can you bring into govt people who killed your brother.?

laughing in my sleep

Evidently, a number of us were too young when ABACHA was in office. My early recollections of ABACHA was the song snippets KOLLINGTON AYINLA made about him in LAKUKULALA: "Ta lo fi mi j'oye o? SANI ABACHA". The days then were brutal (endless fuel queues) and short (bombings and killings by State operatives). Amid all these, there were some bands of people who wanted ABACHA to continue in office forever. Those were the days of Youths Earnestly Ask for Abacha (YEAA, for short). It was a common sight to see Government officials wear ABACHA's picture as a Badge in a show of loyalty (there was even ABACHA TV Set). The best thing about ABACHA was the setting up of Petroleum Trust Fund under the management of BUHARI.

I would say Generals BUHARI and IDIAGBON's regime is the best government (civilian or military) NIGERIA ever had. Yeah, they made some mistakes but it was because they were in a hurry to clean the rot the politicians have made of the country. There was no corruption, and the government tried to correct NIGERIA's foreign exchange problems. The days were peaceful, though there were queues for essential commodities (essenco) and new currency.

So true.

What I know is that during Abacha's time, guys were falling over each other to check out of Naija.

Today, the reverse is the case. Sorry, no comparison. Naija is 100 times better today than it was under Abacha.

So are you saying that today Nigerians abroad a rushing to return to Nigeria

What planet are you on?

Abachas's govt was the worst in the history of Nigeria. The only other Govt that seems to be coming close is GEJ's. During Abacha's rule his sons and cronies could literally drive to the Central Bank and pick up as much millions of Dollars as they wished; Nigeria was their personal fiefdom. Abacha was dying to be life President; thank God he succeeded in that, although not in the capacity he wished for.

For anyone to actually come now and try to praise Abacha is just beyond my mental comprehension.

kingoflag:

Abachas's govt was the worst in the history of Nigeria.  Abacha was dying to be life President; thank God he succeeded in that, although not in the capacity he wished for.

Given that Sanni Abacha transited directly from boning a group of Indian hookers to hanging pipe with 72 virgins in paradise, I think we can all agree that the mass-murdering despotic midget can at least be credited with having sought out the most desirable manner of death that any red-blooded male could hope for.

Of all the infinite permutations of departure from the mortal coil, the manner of exit to which I personally aspire above all others would be for me to suffer a massive cardiac implosion on the down-stroke while ministering to a ridiculously sexy woman, with other equally qualified volunteers patiently and eagerly awaiting their turn.   

As the first head of state to accomplish this enviable transition modality in flying colors, the Always Mighty Sanni Abacha MUST be recognized as the pioneer that he is to all serious conoisseurs and devotees of the trimmed beaver.  Praise the Lord !

Only you can tell a truth, and then nullify it with an incredible lie - all in one post.

What "reverse is the case" & "100 times" are you seeing in your visions?

Dock a 150 million capacity ship anywhere on the Nigerian space, and watch the entire place empty out.

Geeeeez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rossikk:

What I know is that during Abacha's time, guys were falling over each other to check out of Naija.

Today, the reverse is the case. Sorry, no comparison. Naija is 100 times better today than it was under Abacha.

Jakumo:

Given that Sanni Abacha transited directly from boning a group of Indian hookers to hanging pipe with 72 virgins in paradise, I think we can all agree that the mass-murdering despotic midget can at least be credited with having sought out the most desirable manner of death that any red-blooded male could hope for.

Of all the infinite permutations of departure from the mortal coil, the manner of exit to which I personally aspire above all others would be for me to suffer a massive cardiac implosion on the down-stroke while ministering to a ridiculously sexy woman, with other equally qualified volunteers patiently and eagerly awaiting their turn.

As the first head of state to accomplish this enviable transition modality in flying colors, the Always Mighty Sanni Abacha MUST be recognized as the pioneer that he is to all serious conoisseurs and devotees of the trimmed beaver. Praise the Lord !

Lmao. Succintly put.

Abacha was Aurth Eze's benefactor,but notwitstandin the state of d nation has deteriorated drastically due to sheer greediness and insenitivity powered by corruption on d side of our so-called leaders.

I believe strongly dat d development of a country is not hinged on its system of govt.democracy,or military,it is d resolve of d ppl above that matter..so far in Nigeria,Both hav failed..so Abacha,GeJ,IBB,Shagar,bla bla bla....rubbish

This thread came up in 2009, today, 12yrs into our democracy, i guess some of the posters would have posted differently today 'cos the people that supposedly 'fought abacha' to a standstill (Asiwaju ) are today worse thie.ves than Abacha. Nigeria is more messed up now than ever, by who? definetly not Abacha.
We are 10times richer now as a country than we were under abacha yet we have over 100million people living below $2 per day (that is global benchmark for poverty).
Abacha would not have tolerated insane people chasing one around with bombs and AK-47's in the name of religion.
MY SUBMISSION: OUR POLITICIANS ARE NOT YET RIPE FOR DEMOCRACY, ABOUT-TURN TO KHAKI RULE

abacha was alright