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Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by ableguy(m): 12:07pm On May 22, 2018 |
JMAN05: Word, seconded. don't mind them. They just believe whatever they hear about the witnesses. Well it's expected, but the truth will always stand out. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 10:13am On Jun 05, 2018 |
OneJ: unfortunately whenever I respond to these posts I get a ban. I don't know if I'll get another ban now for writing this response. If so too bad. I just take it as a cue that my time on Nairaland is over. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by truthislight: 4:28pm On Jun 07, 2018 |
PastorAIO: No, not "TIME", but your cover has been blown for who you really are. A fraud Pastor. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 3:55pm On Jun 11, 2018 |
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Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 7:35pm On Jun 11, 2018 |
@Pastor AI0: There is no forgery in the NWT Bible or do U mean the forgery in 1John 5:7, 1 Tim3:16, John1:1 KJV that U believe in ? Ignorance is a chronic disease. The oldest Hebrew,Aramaic & Greek manuscripts are available to verify the authentic rendering of God's word in its original form & meaning. NWT is a master piece among. Bible translations. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 10:15am On Jun 12, 2018 |
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Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 10:52am On Jun 12, 2018 |
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Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 9:11am On Jun 24, 2018 |
PastorA10, "Is Greek manuscript of John 1:1 proof of Trinity?". That topic exposes what is hidden. Pls read it again & again, that verse did not say "the word was the god." It is fraudulent to change "god" in the Greek manuscript to "God" in John1:1 to give it a different meaning to support man made fallacy. Acts 28:6 attests to the fraud in John1:1. NWT ,Sahidic Coptic Bible & 14 other translations of the Bible were very correct, "the word was a god". Besides, Is apostle John a liar (John20:30,31)? 1tim3:16, 1John5:7 (KJV) both are forgeries. If U know, U know. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:43pm On Jun 24, 2018 |
OneJ: I don't know what this has to do with the fact that you belong to a pedophilic mind controlling cult. Where did I say anything about John 1:1? Or about trinity for that matter. Mantey, the greek scholar whose work JWs abused, has said that his work was abused and corrupted by JWs. The founder of JW, Charles Taze Russell, the pedophile, perjured himself in court by claiming that he could read greek and his translation was based on his own greek scholarship. It turned out that he didn't even know the basic greek alphabet. And that is the liar you want to base your hopes of salvation on. You're so pitiful. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by MuttleyLaff: 2:47pm On Jun 24, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Wow, wonders never cease to exist Sepe, you replied and mention this guy without getting banned? I thought no one is going to reply or mention his moniker for fear of getting banned and their post hidden PastorAIO:Dont mind the strawman stunt PastorAIO:That must have been cringing and a pathetic sight to watch |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 11:38am On Jun 25, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Pastor A10: Your posts above is an admixture of half truths & outright falsehood. Pls resist the temptation to post anything that catches your fancy. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/Ip-e/1953371 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:01pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
OneJ: You are the expert at half truths and outright falsehoods. Please pick any of the points that I made and explain to us how it is a half truth, or even an outright falsehood. Try this one: Could Charles Taze Russell read and write Greek? If not, then how did he translate the bible from Greek? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 2:46pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
[quote author=OneJ post=68801804] Pastor A10: Your posts above is an admixture of half truths & outright falsehood. Why U dey dodge to read the link which I shared above,in my previous post? Una go dey "doctor" anything wey una see online & make false allegations . Besides, your post was intended to defend the trinity fallacy & malign JWs for being against the popular version of John1:1. (Indeed, Acts28:6 proves John1:1 (KJV) to be a false rendition of the Greek text. If u know U know). There are over 14 different bible versions which reads "the word was a god" or "a god was the word". Ask yourself "why" & find out what's behind it. These Bible versions were not translated or published by JWs. Your allegations of perjury against C.T. Russell is built on quicksand. Who tell U say na him "translate the Bible. from Greek" ? 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 3:35pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
OneJ: Mr Man, I've personally defended the 'and the word was a god' translation too many times in the past on this here obodo Nairaland. I cannot stop you from flogging this your straw man if that is your desperate intent. However that is not the point I was raising. How did your oga, your diety, namely Charles Taze Russell, translate the bible when he admitted (finally) that he didn't understand greek? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 3:55pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Oga Pastor of falsehood, why U dey dodge to read the link I referred U to? U dey fear the truth? U still dey lie say Charles Russell " translated the Bible from Greek". Hahahahahaa. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 8:49pm On Jun 25, 2018 |
OneJ: Thank you for correcting that error. No, he didn't translate the bible in it's entirety but he loved to make up doctrines on the basis of greek words in the bible. For instance Parousia. He used the reference to parousia in the New Testament to claim that Jesus had come to earth in 1874 but he was invisible. Luckily Jesus had foreseen his likes and warned his followers: Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. The JW bible, namely NWT, was translated by a committee and the only person amongst them that knew a little bit of shoddy greek was Franz. True or False? Matthew 24:26 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 10:40pm On Jun 26, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Again,U refused to admit that U LIED against Mr Charles Russell with your false claims that he committed perjury, when indeed no court of law ever adjudged on it. That link I shared exposed your falsehood. Now, U done come again with your lies. Make I help U small... go read the Wikipedia entry about NWT. Some praised it ,others criticised it that Jehovah appeared in the Greek Scriptures instead of kyrios (LORD). That criticism is expected. But U & I, know that "LORD" is a substitute for YHWH (thats Jehovah,Yahweh). & often times ,those passages where direct quotations of the old testament (OT) For instance,Matt4:4 is a direct quote of Deut 8:3.,YHWH is there in the OT, not LORD. Since Acts28:6 is "a god" then it is fraudulent to change John 1:1 to "God". (In the Greek manuscript it's lowercase "god". It's very clear that the NWT & 14 other Bible versions were more accurate than the popular ones which twist God's word. The fact remains that NWT is among the best Bible versions available. Many persons I have met, who are not JWs own a copy& they attest that it's the most easy to read & understand. Actually,just like F.W.Franz, U don't need paper qualifications to study & gain understanding of God's word. A Committee of faithful ,God fearing Christians handled the project over many years & to Jehovah's glory, they did well. Shalom. 2 Likes |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 9:24am On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: Perjury is perjury whether a court adjudges it or not. Did he ever make a false claim to know Greek under oath in a court of law? If so then he commited perjury. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 9:27am On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: Can you then please tell me what the translation of greek Ego Eimi is into english? Don't say you can't speak greek, you can easily check in a dictionary or concordance. Please check. This is the source of all the investigation into JW that I'm doing. I wanted to know why it is so hard for JWs to translate Ego Eimi into english. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 11:15am On Jun 28, 2018 |
PastorAIO:Pls stop grasping on straws & face the truth. The Greek word "ego eimi means "I am", "I exist". Christendom dubiously attached a false interpretation to John8:58 in a desperate bid to defend the Trinity fallacy. (Ego eimi commonly appears in many verses of the scriptures John 9:8,9. 14:6. 2sam2:19,20. Ex3:14. Matt 8:9. 2sam20:17. Luke 1:18,19. etc). In a nutshell,in John 8:58, Jesus actually meant that he existed in the spirit realm before Abraham existed & before Christ's earthly sojourn . (Any other different interpretation na story story). "Ego eimi" means "I am", "I exist", is the first person singular present tense of the verb "to be" in ancient Greek. When used as a copula,with a predicate"" I am X", then usage is equivalent to English. When used alone,with out a predicate, " I am" , "he is", "they are" , typically mean " I exist" Source : "Ego eimi wikipedia" Pastor A10, Ego eimi simply means " I am", "I exist" NWT & 10 other Bible translations has similar rendition of John 8:58. Shalom |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by Hairyrapunzel: 12:40pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ:Just the way you guys dubiously put jehovah 218 times in the new testament when it never appears once. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:11pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: So why is the jW bible incapable of translating it properly and why have all the JWs being ducking and diving over this since the 3rd or 4th page of this thread? Why? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:14pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:What appears is the tetragrammaton Yod He Vau He in the Old Testament. Nobody knows what the vowels between the letters are. It was a closely guarded secret. And those that are crying Jehovah Jehovah now are just exercising their over active imaginations. What do you call a supposed child who doesn't even know his father's name? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 1:19pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: New International Version "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" New Living Translation Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!" English Standard Version Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” Berean Study Bible "Truly, truly, I tell you," Jesus declared, "before Abraham was born, I am!" Berean Literal Bible Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." New American Standard Bible Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." King James Bible Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Christian Standard Bible Jesus said to them, "Truly I tell you, before Abraham was, I am." Contemporary English Version Jesus answered, "I tell you for certain that even before Abraham was, I was, and I am." Good News Translation "I am telling you the truth," Jesus replied. "Before Abraham was born, 'I Am'." Holman Christian Standard Bible Jesus said to them, "I assure you: Before Abraham was, I am." International Standard Version Jesus told them, "Truly, I tell all of you emphatically, before there was an Abraham, I AM!" NET Bible Jesus said to them, "I tell you the solemn truth, before Abraham came into existence, I am!" Please sir, where and when did Christendom give a wrong interpretation to Ego Eimi. All the bibles that I've read have translated it as 'I AM'. You yourself admit that Ego Eimi means I AM. Please how does the JW bible interprete Ego Eimi? |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 1:41pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Oga Pastor ,"Ego eimi means "I am", "I exist" . U are just being dishonest, aside these Bible translations u quoted above, John 8:58 in 10 other versions reads "I exist". All of them ("I am", "I exist" are correct. The point is that U guys dubiously assumed that "I am" means something else. The wikipedia link I referred U to, explained everything in simple language but sorry to say,U prefer to be blind to it. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 2:07pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: Simple question: How does JW bible interprete 'Ego Eimi'? You're dancing atilogwu. Let me answer for you: New World Translation Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” 'I have been' does not equate to 'I exist' or 'I am'. And please, why did you find it so hard to give a straight forward answer to the straight forward question of how JW bible misinterpreted to verse? I am very interested in your mental thought process that blocks you from giving a direct honest answer to that question. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 3:49pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
Oga Pastor,I do it deliberately because I wan know wetin U get for mind. U come talk am, gbam!! English is not hard 4 U &I to comprehend. ".. before Abraham came into existence, I have been.." (1)Christ had been in heaven . 2)Christ had existed in heaven,3) Chris had lived before in heaven). All these sentences in brackets all mean the same thing except your ability to comprehend is missing. Or U are simply looking for straws to grasp. Oga Pastor, again, U are just being dishonest. Why did I say so ? U quoted 11(eleven) Bible translations of John 8:58, word for word their sentences were not exactly the same but U & I, understand that, but because U wan put "bad label" for NWT ,u are looking for what exists only in the figment of your imagination. Oga,pls repent !! |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 10:48pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: PastorAIO: The only person saying 'I am' means something else is you. You are saying that 'I am' can also be 'I have been'. You are so blind and deluded. Totally given over to self deception. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 10:53pm On Jun 28, 2018 |
OneJ: Jesus may have been in heaven, He may have existed in heaven, he may have done many many other things and been to other places and existed in other places and other times.... HOWEVER..... That is not what we are talking about. What we are talking about is the very simple matter of what did Jesus say in response to the question that was asked of him. And the answer is that Jesus said: Before Abraham, I AM. Simples. No I have been to moshalashi, I have been to Tokyo, I existed in Mongolia. It was a simple answer that can be very simply interpreted to english, but you have chosen to apply a WRONG interpretation for evil dubious reasons. Such lies to compound your debauchery of pedophilic bigotry. 1 Like |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 12:02am On Jun 29, 2018 |
Oga, U are simply looking for excuses where none exists. Before Abraham existed ,Jesus has been. It's not rocket science. I know why ee dey pain U well well. Because. "I am" na your slogan to defend falsehood . Many Bible translations (including NWT) were correct to use other words synonymous with the Greek "ego eimi". Maybe U go hire a competent English Teacher make them help U upgrade your understanding (Oga,U need am) . If U pretend or deceive yourself that U don't understand synonyms, that's your cup of tea. U remind me of a meeting held recently where the minutes was read out. The Secretary wrote "Mr Bee moved the motion for adjournment with the assent of Mrs Obi" . But ,a member at the meeting vehemently opposed what the Secretary wrote. He demanded that the minutes be edited because he claimed that the Secretary wrote what is not correct. He wanted it amended to " ... Mr Bee moved the motion for adjournment & Mrs Obi seconded the motion.." Even though other members said the Secretary wrote it well, the man's ego won't allow him to concur. |
Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by OneJ: 12:44am On Jun 29, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:SERIAL LIAR & apostate, stay your lane. Gbawa oso sie eba puo !!!!!!!!! |
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