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Re: The Middle Path by analice107: 7:02pm On Sep 09
adepeter2027:

I'm not gonna derail sarassi-n thread.

Let's continue here

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You want me to keep making you relevant? You wish. Get out little demon. You are not my match.

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Re: The Middle Path by Pidgin2(f): 7:02pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:


Oh they surely are cheesy

Rejection of God is simply Satanism in its purest form. Consider these comments by the OP and how the atheists are all drooling over it.







You can see the atheists making comments like "great respect " to the OP or "Great thread" or "So sweet"

This thread should be called THE GATHERING OF THE DAMNED!

Honestly, I'm shocked at their gullibility when it comes to the dark world.
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 7:12pm On Sep 09
Pidgin2:


Honestly, I'm shocked at their gullibility when it comes to the dark world.

It's not gullibility my dear. It's their home. They are simply at home now. This is where their tent is best pitched
Re: The Middle Path by Billyonaire: 7:47pm On Sep 09
Sarassin:


It may not be initially apparent (and I do apologise for that) but it is not the schools of thought and their various paradigms that are segmented into the various compartments it is actually the adherents, it is their outlook on practice that determines what path they tread. An adept of any mystical order determines in the final analysis what path he/she traverses. One can even take Christian magical rituals and wreak havoc through it.

I completely agree though that energy is neutral and that the term magick is essentially nomenclature. If I take the narrow definition that was given to me then I would say that magick is the causation of change in conformity with will and the medium as you correctly surmised is ethereal energy. I am not unmindful of the inter-planetary dimensions you refer to but in this instance I am concerned with direct change brought about by the will of the practitioner and his informed decisions.

When the practitioner from the dark side stands his ground and proclaims triumphantly “I even I am He and there is no God with me, I kill and I make alive, I wound and I heal” It is because he has arrived, he has glimpsed in that moment his godhood however fleeting. But he has done so by manipulating energy from afar.

Now you are getting my points. Energy remains neutral, mind regulates the flow, and humans can choose how they use the energy. If they choose to create a negative or positive use for it, does not mean there is a positive or negative path in nature. And there is no totally negative or positive entities, but the ego built around these poles.

When a man says, there is no God, he is right. Cos he is an aspect of God and can choose to deny itself. When a man says there is God, he is also right for affirming the core of his existence and whatever he/she does with such ideologies is totally up to him. Morality is an ego construct since spirit exists. Existence is eternal but living is temporal. One can only but perish the body but self continues. That is why the Universe bothers not, cos in the end, life is a zero sum game and energy can not be created nor destroyed.

QED

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Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 8:39pm On Sep 09
So, Here is an initiatory story of mine just to relieve the monotony. I have been an initiate and adherent of the Hermetic Mystical system for many years, I am also a follower of the Divine path of Tantra, in the early 2000’s I travelled to Sri Lanka to complete the initiatory rites a Tantric Yogi had generously agreed to perform for me. It was the giving of Deeksha. I stayed at his home for a few days and at the appointed time together with a friend of the Yogi we set off for a location undisclosed to me.

Half an hour into our walk the Yogi turned to me and simply stated that he was not able to carry out the initiation. I was crushed, in a panic and completely flabbergasted, I asked why? He replied that it simply didn’t feel right he hadn’t known me long enough to vouch for my attitude, he said were he to change his mind and carry out the rite I had to perform a task, I replied that I was prepared to do anything.

He informed me that my task was to experience a moment of pure ecstasy, I was aghast! I mean I was five and a half thousand miles from home no woman in tow, was I to consort with women of leisure, I asked him? He and his companion began to laugh, they laughed so hard tears were rolling down their cheeks. But the joke was on me, they informed me I was to remove all my clothing on the spot and to begin to chant a mantra they would give me until I experienced ecstasy and then and only then when they were satisfied would they be prepared to perform the ritual for me, else I could just go home.

I looked to see if there were any traces of humour on their faces, not a jot, I hadn’t gone so far to go back home empty handed, slowly I removed my clothes he handed me a piece of paper and I began to chant Unclad at the side of the road.

I whipped myself into a frenzy chanting and found ecstasy, I was shouting, crying, screaming and laughing all at the same time, bonkers and stark Unclad on the streets, it was the most liberating thing I have ever done. When it was all over I found a small crowd had gathered nearby but curiously they looked mildly appreciative, of a brown stranger who had come to learn their ways. A robe was thrown around my shoulders and as I was led away (my clothes were missing) I said to the yogi, that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life and would he now just complete the initiation, both men again burst into hard laugher, as he said…you just got initiated.

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Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 8:47pm On Sep 09
Sarassin:
So, Here is an initiatory story of mine just to relieve the monotony. I have been an initiate and adherent of the Hermetic Mystical system for many years, I am also a follower of the Divine path of Tantra, in the early 2000’s I travelled to Sri Lanka to complete the initiatory rites a Tantric Yogi had generously agreed to perform for me. It was the giving of Deeksha. I stayed at his home for a few days and at the appointed time together with a friend of the Yogi we set off for a location undisclosed to me.

Half an hour into our walk the Yogi turned to me and simply stated that he was not able to carry out the initiation. I was crushed, in a panic and completely flabbergasted, I asked why? He replied that it simply didn’t feel right he hadn’t known me long enough to vouch for my attitude, he said were he to change his mind and carry out the rite I had to perform a task, I replied that I was prepared to do anything.

He informed me that my task was to experience a moment of pure ecstasy, I was aghast! I mean I was five and a half thousand miles from home no woman in tow, was I to consort with women of leisure, I asked him? He and his companion began to laugh, they laughed so hard tears were rolling down their cheeks. But the joke was on me, they informed me I was to remove all my clothing on the spot and to begin to chant a mantra they would give me until I experienced ecstasy and then and only then when they were satisfied would they be prepared to perform the ritual for me, else I could just go home.

I looked to see if there were any traces of humour on their faces, not a jot, I hadn’t gone so far to go back home empty handed, slowly I removed my clothes he handed me a piece of paper and I began to chant Unclad at the side of the road.

I whipped myself into a frenzy chanting and found ecstasy, I was shouting, crying, screaming and laughing all at the same time, bonkers and stark Unclad on the streets, it was the most liberating thing I have ever done. When it was all over I found a small crowd had gathered nearby but curiously they looked mildly appreciative, of a brown stranger who had come to learn their ways. A robe was thrown around my shoulders and as I was led away (my clothes were missing) I said to the yogi, that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life and would he now just complete the initiation, both men again burst into hard laugher, as he said…you just got initiated.


You went Unclad in full view of sane Insane people all to please your master Satan and make bold to declare it grin

I guess they also wanted to see if what they say is true about black men wink
Re: The Middle Path by coolestchris(m): 8:59pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:



You went Unclad in full view of sane Insane people all to please your master Satan and make bold to declare it grin

I guess they also wanted to see if what they say is true about black men wink
you are a troll

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Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 9:00pm On Sep 09
coolestchris:
you are a troll

A sensible troll wink

In the garden of Eden Satan made man sin and this forced man to realise he was Unclad. Here now Satan made him loose his clothes and go Unclad cheesy

Same trick, different results. grin

Cc sarassin

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Re: The Middle Path by coolestchris(m): 9:02pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:


A sensible troll wink
yes, everything that all humans do is all part of the design of the uncaused causer
Re: The Middle Path by LoJ: 9:06pm On Sep 09
Sarassin:
...
Hello dear friend,

I have been deeply touched by the thread and the narrative of your initiation into the blessing (of oneness). I wish to raise a few points on the issue of left, right and middle paths.

It has been my understanding that the real frontier between the left and right paths is to be found in the approach to the divine. At the fundamental point, left path practitioners are looking for self deification while their counterparts on the right side wish to "merge" with and be "dissolved into" the divine (ecosystem). That to me has been the simplest way to distinguish between both groups. In other words, the left path builds ego as sovereign and final while the right destroys it.

In this perspective, the middle path would be an attempt to achieve equilibrium between two extremes, whereby an initiate is "good" (not in moral terms) to that which is good in nature, but cruel and fierce in the face of "evil". Is there any truth in this view of things?

Aside Tantra which according to me, is the shortest path to enlightenment when one wishes not to abandon a modern lifestyle, I am most admirative of the philosophy and wisdom of the thrice greatest. Recently a collection of great books pertaining this school of thought just located me quite unexplicably. We shall certainely discuss that privately, but after reading a few of the books, I realised how much modern esoteric thought owes to Him.

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Re: The Middle Path by coolestchris(m): 9:08pm On Sep 09
LoJ:

Hello dear friend,

I have been deeply touched by the thread and the narrative of your initiation into the blessing (of oneness). I wish to raise a few points on the issue of left, right and middle paths.

It has been my understanding that the real frontier between the left and right paths is to be found in the approach to the divine. At the fundamental point, left path practitioners are looking for self deification while their counterparts on the right side wish to "merge" with and be "dissolved into" the divine (ecosystem). That to me has been the simplest way to distinguish between both groups. In other words, the left path builds ego as sovereign and final while the right destroys it. Is there any truth in this view of things?

Aside Tantra which according to me, is the shortest path to enlightenment when one wishes not to abandon a modern lifestyle, I am most admirative of the philosophy and wisdom of the thrice greatest. Recently a collection of great books pertaining this school of thought just located me quite unexplicably. We shall certainely discuss that privately, but after reading a few of the books, I realised how much modern esoteric thought owes to Him.
hermes trismegistus aka enoch

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Re: The Middle Path by LoJ: 9:08pm On Sep 09
edit: @sarassin
In this perspective, the middle path would be an attempt to achieve equilibrium between two extremes, whereby an initiate is "good" (not in moral terms) to that which is good in nature, but cruel and fierce in the face of "evil". Is there any truth in this view of things?
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 9:19pm On Sep 09
coolestchris:
yes, everything that all humans do is all part of the design of the uncaused causer


If not then why all the desperate attempts to always create a different version of it in a subtle manner.

Man is often eager to have a taste of the supernatural yet they deny the existence of a super supernatural being.

Ain't life absurd. grin

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Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 9:25pm On Sep 09
LoJ:

Hello dear friend,

I have been deeply touched by the thread and the narrative of your initiation into the blessing (of oneness). I wish to raise a few points on the issue of left, right and middle paths.

It has been my understanding that the real frontier between the left and right paths is to be found in the approach to the divine. At the fundamental point, left path practitioners are looking for self deification while their counterparts on the right side wish to "merge" with and be "dissolved into" the divine (ecosystem). That to me has been the simplest way to distinguish between both groups. In other words, the left path builds ego as sovereign and final while the right destroys it.

Hello LoJ good to read your post. In essence yes. I have taken a blunt object approach in tackling the matter from the aspects of methodology and mechanics you have kindly given a more elegant description of the paths and their ultimate aims.

LoJ:

Aside Tantra which according to me, is the shortest path to enlightenment when one wishes not to abandon a modern lifestyle, I am most admirative of the philosophy and wisdom of the thrice greatest. Recently a collection of great books pertaining this school of thought just located me quite unexplicably. We shall certainely discuss that privately, but after reading a few of the books, I realised how much modern esoteric thought owes to Him.

Indeed.

LoJ:
edit: @sarassin
In this perspective, the middle path would be an attempt to achieve equilibrium between two extremes, whereby an initiate is "good" (not in moral terms) to that which is good in nature, but cruel and fierce in the face of "evil". Is there any truth in this view of things?
I was coming to that in my next post but you have probably explained it in much better terms.I agree 100%.
Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 10:51pm On Sep 09
So, I made a comment a few posts back about the healing practice of laying of hands, another poster full of faux self-righteous indignation took issue with it. In this case, the ‘laying of hands’ referred to in my post is not the biblical version (One would think that would be obvious on a thread like this) it refers to the practice of the exchange of energy, or 'Chi' or 'Pran' the practice is alive and well today in the way I described as the ancient method of Reiki healing.
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 10:58pm On Sep 09
Sarassin:
So, I made a comment a few posts back about the healing practice of laying of hands, another poster full of faux self-righteous indignation took issue with it. In this case, the ‘laying of hands’ referred to in my post is not the biblical version (One would think that would be obvious on a thread like this) it refers to the practice of the exchange of energy, or 'Chi' or 'Pran' the practice is alive and well today in the way I described as the ancient method of Reiki healing.

Mention me boldly next time oga. I dey fear you?

Someone already offered you his full names, location and all what not you asked for so you can tell him his date of death.... So how far that one? grin

The ancient method of exchange of energy indeed. Why would I want to settle for something that would make me take on the illness even if it is temporarily and leave the one that would not even allow the sickness come upon me whether deliberately or not.

Why settle for the lesser when the more valuable is available?

Keep on deceiving yourself. Anyway you seem to have a lot of atheists who enjoy the groove you are playing. Na dem only fit subscribe to Satanism anyway cheesy

The devil ALWAYS wants to make a counterfeit of what God has so I am not surprised. I am also not surprised that atheists subscribe to this Afterall no more God now means freedom to embrace everything that is anti God including Satanism.

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Re: The Middle Path by narrowpathy(m): 11:09pm On Sep 09
Mr Sarassin i please implore you to ignore and give no energy to the negative entities trying to distract under the guise of "righteous indignation". Let those who want to learn be taught....except as I suspect on the other hand you're trying to stylishly teach them since they are stylishly trying to learn, albeit through negative methods.

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Re: The Middle Path by enigmatic16(f): 11:10pm On Sep 09
Billyonaire:


Do not thank me. I am doing what I am supposed to do. If you have ever journeyed to the land beyond the beyond and met these entities at their homes then you will figure out how exactly life works. We are all energy beings, we have a body while they have their own kind of body, but to go there we drop our physicality and to come here, they drop their primary body and migrate astrally. Their technologies are far more advance and we can develop them here and we are doing that at the Antarctica laboratories. Do not take my advice as an insult, all I am saying is....If an entity can not tell you exactly its location and its level of knowledge can not measured and compared to the other ETs of different races, do not fucck with it. You could be communicating with a bully somewhere and you think you are doing great until you are pretty much fuccked up.

Speaking from experiences, not books.

Can u send me a message i wud wanna talk 2u bout diz tins u jus spoke about.
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 11:13pm On Sep 09
narrowpathy:
Mr Sarassin i please implore you to ignore and give no energy to the negative entities trying to distract under the guise of "righteous indignation". Let those who want to learn be taught....except as I suspect on the other hand you're trying to stylishly teach them since they are stylishly trying to learn, albeit through negative methods.

The Sarassin you are appealing to is actually the negative entity. I am a shining light on a lighthouse warning the blind sailors of sharp rocks close-by on a dark and stormy night.

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Re: The Middle Path by narrowpathy(m): 11:15pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:


The Sarassin you are appealing to is actually the negative entity. I am a shining light on a lighthouse warning the blind sailors of sharp rocks close-by on a dark and stormy night.

Don't force your light on me. Thanks

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Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 11:18pm On Sep 09
narrowpathy:


Don't force your light on me. Thanks

My light is already affecting the negative entity in you which was why you had to react to it by speaking out. Here you are speaking out even more even when I never directed any comment towards you on this thread until now. grin

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Re: The Middle Path by narrowpathy(m): 11:21pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:


My light is already affecting the negative entity in you which was why you had to react to it by speaking out. Here you are speaking out even more even when I never directed any comment towards you on this thread until now. grin


You win. Thanks

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Re: The Middle Path by enigmatic16(f): 11:22pm On Sep 09
Pidgin2:
I never knew atheists can be so agreeable, it seems they are all at home here

Oya its an atheist playing ground, jus leave already, u already accused atheists of not letting u religious folk be.. And u re here doing d same. Who is dependent on who now¿
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 11:30pm On Sep 09
enigmatic16:


Oya its an atheist playing ground, jus leave already, u already accused atheists of not letting u religious folk be.. And u re here doing d same. Who is dependent on who now¿

We stop when they stop! They started it and even if we stop they have sworn not to so we need them to stop first.

This is religious section and we are free to roll here but the non religious atheists are not free.

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Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 11:32pm On Sep 09
narrowpathy:
Mr Sarassin i please implore you to ignore and give no energy to the negative entities trying to distract under the guise of "righteous indignation". Let those who want to learn be taught....except as I suspect on the other hand you're trying to stylishly teach them since they are stylishly trying to learn, albeit through negative methods.

Hahaha....I would love to buy you a drink for your comment, First class.
Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 11:38pm On Sep 09
Onwards and upwards we go. In the Hermetic Mystical Order based on the works of the 'Thrice Greatest' of which I have been an adherent we are presented with a view of reality consisting of various layers emanating from the highest and most subtle divine realms to the most dense and material world that we experience every day. The movement from the subtle to the material is not really a system of different and distinct layers it is actually a seamless change. For the sake of simplicity for now I will limit these to three distinct levels even though there are myriads of sub-levels, they represent layers of the external world as we know it but more importantly they also represent layers of the self. The higher you go, the more subtle the realm.

I wish to take a look at each of these realms, their importance to the ordinary person and how they are utilised by practitioners of the three paths previously described.

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Re: The Middle Path by narrowpathy(m): 11:39pm On Sep 09
Sarassin:


Hahaha....I would love to buy you a drink for your comment, First class.

haha. You're welcome
Re: The Middle Path by enigmatic16(f): 11:58pm On Sep 09
butterflylion:


We stop when they stop! They started it and even if we stop they have sworn not to so we need them to stop first.

This is religious section and we are free to roll here but the non religious atheists are not free.

Then let d modes be d judge of dat... If they saw d need to divide d religion section, dey wud ve done dat already. We are all matured people i guess. None of diz even matter, wat we are all here arguing over....If an atheist is condemned or going 2 hell, is it ur hell? If a theist tinks a "sky daddy" is their only hope, let dem be aswell... We shud be able 2 ve civilized conversations with others and respect their opinions, social/moral millitancy wud only wear u out. As if life isnt doing dat already u wanna add diz one undecided
Re: The Middle Path by enigmatic16(f): 12:02am On Sep 10
Sarassin:
Onwards and upwards we go. In the Hermetic Mystical Order based on the works of the 'Thrice Greatest' of which I have been an adherent we are presented with a view of reality consisting of various layers emanating from the highest and most subtle divine realms to the most dense and material world that we experience every day. The movement from the subtle to the material is not really a system of different and distinct layers it is actually a seamless change. For the sake of simplicity for now I will limit these to three distinct levels even though there are myriads of sub-levels, they represent layers of the external world as we know it but more importantly they also represent layers of the self. The higher you go, the more subtle the realm.

I wish to take a look at each of these realms, their importance to the ordinary person and how they are utilised by practitioners of the three paths previously described.

Plz continu... *drools*
Re: The Middle Path by Sarassin: 12:30am On Sep 10
The highest level is of course the Divine Realm. It is best described both by what it is and what it is not, it is the abode of the Godkings, they exist here in their highest and most universally transcendent nature. This realm is beyond the classic religious and mythic accounts of the pantheon of gods and angels rebelling one against the other. It is the preserve of primal causal forces, the perfection of perfection, it is an incorruptible realm even access to this realm is perfection.

Human awareness, through the mind manifests and glimpses this realm as the gnosis of singularity during extraordinarily deep meditative practice as primordial unencumbered awareness. In all honesty we need not talk too much about this realm.
Re: The Middle Path by butterflylion: 5:37am On Sep 10
enigmatic16:


Then let d modes be d judge of dat... If they saw d need to divide d religion section, dey wud ve done dat already. We are all matured people i guess. None of diz even matter, wat we are all here arguing over....If an atheist is condemned or going 2 hell, is it ur hell? If a theist tinks a "sky daddy" is their only hope, let dem be aswell... We shud be able 2 ve civilized conversations with others and respect their opinions, social/moral millitancy wud only wear u out. As if life isnt doing dat already u wanna add diz one undecided

Tell this to the atheists who call the theists delusional over what isn't their business and what they claim does not exist.

Like I said, they started it and they will end it. Simple! Until they do it's pound for pound. cheesy

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Re: The Middle Path by Ranchhoddas(m): 7:58am On Sep 10
butterflylion:


Tell this to the atheists who call the theists delusional over what isn't their business and what they claim does not exist.

Like I said, they started it and they will end it. Simple! Until they do it's pound for pound. cheesy
The author of this thread isn't an atheist. He does not get "delusional over what isn't their business and what they claim does not exist".
So why have you chosen to be a Jackass on his thread?

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