Pennywise:

Actually pennywise is all that. You want to keep towing this line or you want us to stay on topic

^^it's in your best interest to stay on topic, not mine.

if most nigerians were like me MEND would not be a problem today.

mudslinging does not prevent me from telling it like it is, and neither am i intimidated by cowardly pieces of moldy gas, so like i said, you need to stop feeling funky over rubbish

. . . . . . .

sweet! Long may the bombs rain . . .

Pharaoh let my people go!

oyb:


http://www.start.umd.edu/start/data/tops/terrorist_organization_profile.asp?id=4692

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/82738.htm

sraight from united  states  homeland security and the state department  

do you honestly think the us will not classify an organisation that kidnaps its citizens and bombs facilities run by its companies based in its sister countries as anything but terrorist?

You're such a lying hypocrite . . . read from the two sites you quoted.

Site 1 - U.S. Government Designations

Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO): No
Terrorist Exclusion List (TEL): No

Other Governments' Designations

UK Proscribed Group: No
Australia Specified Group: No
Canada Specified Group: No
EU Specified Group: No
Russia Specified Group: No

Site 2 - OTHER GROUPS OF CONCERN
The following groups of concern have not been designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations under 8 USC Section 1189, although many have been designated under other U.S. Government counterterrorism authorities.

The U of Maryland can declare MEND a terrorist group if it so wishes . . . it is NOT officially classified as such from any North American or European nation.

Abeg let the bombs reign. They should upgrade to more advanced IED's, that would be nice.

I'm dissapointed that it wasn't placed closer to that midget of a governor from Edo state or his
co-midget - Uduaghan They should then reserve the most powerful devices for the Sylva's, Babangida's,
Anaconda's, Ibori's of our time,

oyb:

http://www.start.umd.edu/start/data/tops/terrorist_organization_profile.asp?id=4692

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2006/82738.htm

sraight from united  states  homeland security and the state department  

do you honestly think the us will not classify an organisation that kidnaps its citizens and bombs facilities run by its companies based in its sister countries as anything but terrorist?

Now I know you are daft and can't understand what you are reading. Olodo, you don't even know the meaning of "concern".
This is the full list of terrorist organisation according to the US. Show me MEND in it, ode!

Country Reports on Terrorism

Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism

April 30, 2007


Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) aliases cited are consistent with and drawn from the Specially Designated Nationals list maintained by the Department of Treasury. The full list can be found at the following website: http://www.treasury.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/sdn/sdnlist.txt

Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
Ansar al-Sunna (AS)
Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
Asbat al-Ansar
Aum Shinrikyo (Aum)
Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)
Communist Party of Philippines/New People's Army (CPP/NPA)
Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
Gama'a al-Islamiyya (IG)
HAMAS
Harakat ul-Mujahedin (HUM)
Hizballah
Islamic Jihad Union (IJU)
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
Jemaah Islamiya Organization (JI)
Al-Jihad (AJ)
Kahane Chai (Kach)
Kongra-Gel (KGK/PKK)
Lashkar e-Tayyiba (LT)
Lashkar i Jhangvi (LJ)
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (GICM)
Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK)
National Liberation Army (ELN)
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
Al-Qaida (AQ)
Al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI)
Al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) [Formerly Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)]
Real IRA (RIRA)
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
Revolutionary Nuclei (RN)
Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
Shining Path (SL)
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC)

These people are only bein used by d cabal to make a mess of Jonathan and his presidential ambition. All they are tryin to prove is dat Jonathan can't guarantee peace in d land pls don't let us be carried away let us all come forward and denounce dis violent acts and I want to plead wit members of MEND not to allow themselves to be used in scuttlin d chance of d ND in producin d nxt president

oyb:

so brave man - did you protest alongside the ogonis or were you peeing in your pants from the window and whispering 'i'm on your side?'

Am skilled in the art of guerrilla warfare. . . . I dont protest under hail of bullets. . . I prefer to shoot and disappear!  

BTW, there was no protest in PH. . . what happened in PH was an state-sponsored war between Okrikas and Ogonis. . .

oyb:

study in contradictions. good to know you are admitting that those repentant miltants who went on rampage in uniport are men of principle

The OPC thugs who currently terrorise Lagos and commit all sort of crimes, did they not genuinely fight for June 12?

The Russians who defeated Nazi Germany, did they not engage in wanton rape of civilians?

Show me any scenario where good men do not use morally-bankrupt men to achieve military aims.

oyb:

you know what wole soyinka said - when the head is rotten, whatever goes on beneath ( at the foot soldier level) should not be suprising.

Thats why Wole Soyinka is part of the MEND-appointed Aaron team. Do you know better that Soyinka?

oyb:

keep celebrating your men of principle.

like so many before them , they are slowly and surely devolving into a gang of criminals for profit

Keep toting brainless mantra like the mindless drone you are.

The fact remains that MEND have not sold out the struggle of the Niger-Delta people, despite considerable financial inducement from a criminal Govt who choose to negotiate with mere footsoldiers and mercenaries rather than discuss the underlying issues of the Niger-Delta (and Nigerian) question as a whole with luminaries such as Wole Soyinka.

Beaf:

Now I know you are daft and can't understand what you are reading. Olodo, you don't even know the meaning of "concern".
This is the full list of terrorist organisation according to the US. Show me MEND in it, ode!

ouch - i moved too fast. enjoy .  

davidylan:

You're such a lying hypocrite . . . read from the two sites you quoted.

Site 1 - U.S. Government Designations

Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO): No
Terrorist Exclusion List (TEL): No

Other Governments' Designations

UK Proscribed Group: No
Australia Specified Group: No
Canada Specified Group: No
EU Specified Group: No
Russia Specified Group: No

Site 2 - OTHER GROUPS OF CONCERN
The following groups of concern have not been designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations under 8 USC Section 1189, although many have been designated under other U.S. Government counterterrorism authorities.

The U of Maryland can declare MEND a terrorist group if it so wishes . . . it is NOT officially classified as such from any North American or European nation.

[img]http://www.start.umd.edu/start/images/logo_main.gif[/img]

berra shut up, you psychotic hypocrite - if it was some Palestinians exploding car bombs you'd be speaking out of  the other side of your mouth.

hypocritical, cowardly  internet warrior  

marvix:

These people are only bein used by d cabal to make a mess of Jonathan and his presidential ambition. All they are tryin to prove is dat Jonathan can't guarantee peace in d land pls don't let us be carried away let us all come forward and denounce dis violent acts and I want to plead wit members of MEND not to allow themselves to be used in scuttlin d chance of d ND in producin d nxt president

ND president post Jonathan will only inflame passions in the north. Besides who among the lot can bring abt changes when structures remain the same. Changed structure to reflect a true federation and accountable Governors is what the ND needs hardly who is president.

This in summary is what Mend is saying. No more no less.

Ibime:

Am skilled in the art of guerrilla warfare. . . . I dont protest under hail of bullets. . . I prefer to shoot and disappear!  

BTW, there was no protest in PH. . . what happened in PH was an state-sponsored war between Okrikas and Ogonis. . .

i forget the name of the university close to where the repentant miltants were camped. . .

Ibime:

Am skilled in the art of guerrilla warfare. . . . I dont protest under hail of bullets. . . I prefer to shoot and disappear!  

abegi - you just hit restart on your ps/xbox controller   - you think na gow where u can adjust difficulty if the going gets tough ?

The OPC thugs who currently terrorise Lagos and commit all sort of crimes, did they not genuinely fight for June 12?

The Russians who defeated Nazi Germany, did they not engage in wanton despoil of civilians?

opc thugs fought for june 12? what are you on? when did opc become an ar of nadeco?

i seem to remeber that russians, americans and britons defeated germany -

i don't reacall any wanton ra-pe of japanese civilians by americans the way

keep making excuses for criminal behavior

oyb:

berra shut up, you psychotic hypocrite - if it was some Palestinians exploding car bombs you'd be speaking out of  the other side of your mouth.

hypocritical, cowardly  internet warrior  

you just realised you were a lying idiot?

The jews OWN THE LAND! the very fact that the land bears 99% jewish names (judea, nazareth, jerusalem, bethlehem) is enough to let us know that the "palestinian" cause is basically the same as that of the northerners in Nigeria. A fight to steal lands for allah by force.

That of course is not the issue of this thread (except you really have nothing to say beyond rehashing bleeding falsehoods). I suggest you stick to READING and VERIFYING your "facts" before vituperating like allah's mad dog.

Quote from pennywise
ND president post Jonathan will only inflame passions in the north. Besides who among the lot can bring abt changes when structures remain the same. Changed structure to reflect a true federation and accountable Governors is what the ND needs hardly who is president.

No wonder u are pennywise, wil d structures change by themselves, if wit Jonathan actin d ND degenerates back to where it was b4 do u need a soothsayer to tell u its ova wit Jonathans presidential bid pls let us cool our tempers at least til after d elections nxt year and let's c if Jonathan won't attend to d probs of d ND.

marvix:

No wonder u are pennywise, wil d structures change by themselves, if wit Jonathan actin d ND degenerates back to where it was b4 do u need a soothsayer to tell u its ova wit Jonathans presidential bid pls let us cool our tempers at least til after d elections nxt year and let's c if Jonathan won't attend to d probs of d ND.

I can assure you and believe me when I say I am calm. This is internet conversation, there is no money involved.

Now tell me do you think the interest of the ND will be better served if Jonathan is president preferring not to ruffle feathers and maintaining 13% derivation or someone else is president but with the ND getting derivation in excess of 50% as it was in the first republic%

oyb:

opc thugs fought for june 12? what are you on? when did opc become an ar of nadeco?

What was OPC's role and why and when was it formed?

oyb:

i seem to remeber that russians, americans and britons defeated germany -

i don't reacall any wanton ra-pe of japanese civilians by americans the way

keep making excuses for criminal behavior

Stop talking rubbish. . . . only an idiot would assume that soldiers do not regress into animal behaviour. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

@poster, the crises & unrest in Nigeria is just beginning, but note that these will not lead us to break up

oyb:

ouch - i moved too fast. enjoy .  

True, speaking too quickly is not a sign of wisdom.
Limit yourself to what you know, instead of attempting to twist the truth and getting caught pants down.

Mend is nothing but a terrorist group and should be classify as such.

I think that stands as a confirmation from their website.

http://mendnigerdelta.com/current-news/m-e-n-d-press-releases/

Oba234:

Mend is nothing but a terrorist group and should be classify as such.

That is the prayer of all oil parasites.
Fortunately, foreign countries are revulsed by the government sponsored human rights abuses in the Niger Delta and will NEVER classify MEND as terrorist.

[size=14pt]We know who the real Boko Harams, parasites, thieves, murderers, terrorists and cabals are.[/size]

Is even good they started with their governors who went to Abuja to disgrace themselves that Jonathan should remain the acting President while Yaradua remain the president even at coma.

Good for them

davidylan:

you just realised you were a lying idiot?  

The jews OWN THE LAND! the very fact that the land bears 99% jewish names (judea, nazareth, jerusalem, bethlehem) is enough to let us know that the "palestinian" cause is basically the same as that of the northerners in Nigeria. A fight to steal lands for allah by force.

That of course is not the issue of this thread (except you really have nothing to say beyond rehashing bleeding falsehoods). I suggest you stick to READING and VERIFYING your "facts" before vituperating like allah's mad dog.

stop skirting the issue. we all know that you are a hypocrite, but you cannot condemn one set of people for settting off car bombs, and excuse another set for doing the same thing. that is the highest degree of hypocrisy - but then again, coming from a blood thirsty hypocrite like you -

would be interesting to know if you'd feel the same way about mend if some of your kinsmen were kidnapped for ransom, in the booming industry mend midwifed

oyb:

stop skirting the issue. we all know that you are a hypocrite, but you cannot condemn one set of people for settting off car bombs, and excuse another set for doing the same thing. that is the highest degree of hypocrisy - but then again, coming from a blood thirsty hypocrite like you -

would be interesting to know if you'd feel the same way about mend if some of your kinsmen were kidnapped for ransom, in the booming industry mend midwifed

1. the issue had nothing to do with "palestinians" . . . talk about "skirting an issue".

2. The complaints is NOT about condemning people for setting off car bombs . . . that is the muslims absurd and incompetent way of looking at things . . . the issues to consider FIRST are:

a. legitimacy of the struggle - the "palestinian"struggle is NOTHING but a brazen attempt by muslims to wipe out the jews. Jerusalem is a jewish city, has remained so for 3000 yrs . . . what is the arab claim to it? How then do you justify car bombs AGAINST jewish citizens IN Jerusalem?
MEND has a legitimate claim.

b. The aim of MEND is NOT indiscriminate killing of innocent citizens (as indicated by their widespread warning BEFORE the attack for citizens close to the designated bomb sites to be evacuated). Contrast that to the "palestinians" who will rather die if they can take along with them some innocent jews too.

3. Its a bit absurd for you to accuse me of "hypocrisy". You support arab bomb attacks, attempt to explain away HAMAS car bombs as revenge for Israeli "atrocities" and YET come here to bleat about MEND bomb attacks?

My friend go and sit down and allow rational folks to have a debate. When mohammedans appear on a thread they seem to suspend all capacity to reason.

keep celebrating.

just keep in mind that while most of you are celebrating nigeria's decent into anarchy from the safety of the west, those dear to you are still on ground here, and not protected from the outcomes of these actions.

most of you are probably too scared to come home anyway - what with kidnapping and now bombing - you'd probably need armored cars to move around.

oyb:

keep celebrating.

just keep in mind that while most of you are celebrating nigeria's decent into anarchy from the safety of the west, those dear to you are still on ground here, and not protected from the outcomes of these actions.

most of you are probably too scared to come home anyway - what with kidnapping and now bombing - you'd probably need armored cars to move around.

is this a self deafitist consoling statement

oyb:

keep celebrating.

just keep in mind that while most of you are celebrating nigeria's decent into anarchy from the safety of the west, those dear to you are still on ground here, and not protected from the outcomes of these actions.

most of you are probably too scared to come home anyway - what with kidnapping and now bombing - you'd probably need armored cars to move around.

So it is now MEND's fault that corruption is rampant in the country? Your recommendation seems to be that, everybody should roll over and give up while cabals pillage the country. You will wait in vain and your hope will turn to futility; Nigerians are waking up and seizing what is rightfully theirs.

Long may the bombs reign!!!

Three arms zone and A**o rock should be next. . . These vagabonds in power should realise that it is not safe to steal money meant for the populace to buy expensive properties in Europe.

This is what they should be doing. . It is much better than kidnapping and makes electoral offices very risky. If they like they should allocate the whole budget to security vote, the bombs wouldn't stop going off.

To all those Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen and their sympathisers, learn from MEND and attack your rulers that have decided that polio and VVF are your lot in life. Leave the Beroms alone!

1. the issue had nothing to do with "palestinians" . . . talk about "skirting an issue".

2. The complaints is NOT about condemning people for setting off car bombs . . . that is the muslims absurd and incompetent way of looking at things . . . the issues to consider FIRST are:

a. legitimacy of the struggle - the "palestinian"struggle is NOTHING but a brazen attempt by muslims to wipe out the jews.

Jerusalem is a jewish city, has remained so for 3000 yrs . . . what is the arab claim to it? How then do you justify car bombs AGAINST jewish citizens IN Jerusalem?
MEND has a legitimate claim.

b. The aim of MEND is NOT indiscriminate killing of innocent citizens (as indicated by their widespread warning BEFORE the attack for citizens close to the designated bomb sites to be evacuated). Contrast that to the "palestinians" who will rather die if they can take along with them some innocent jews too.

3. Its a bit absurd for you to accuse me of "hypocrisy". You support arab bomb attacks, attempt to explain away HAMAS car bombs as revenge for Israeli "atrocities" and YET come here to bleat about MEND bomb attacks?

My friend go and sit down and allow rational folks to have a debate. When mohammedans appear on a thread they seem to suspend all capacity to reason.

typical hypocrisy and double speak from davidylan, nairalands most bloodthirsty hypocrite

thank god there are better ambassaors for christianity - otherwise we'd think the religion was full of psychotic hypocrites

[size=14pt]show one thread where i have supported bomb /suicide attacks by Palestinians - you godforsaken lying excuse for a human being. [/size]

the mend you are celebrating kidnapped inncocent civilians - justify that . what widespread warning are you bleating about? most people were not aware of any warning until they logged onto nairaland. are you so stupid and callous that you think the average citizen has unlimited access to the internet?

i am condemning car bombs in any form or manner, and pointing out what we all know about you and double standards - you have no problem with atrocities when they are committed by people you 'support' .

mend have bombed pipelines and caused damage to the environment. is that the hallmark of a responsible movement?

Stop talking rubbish. . . . only an idiot would assume that soldiers do not regress into animal behaviour. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

i no fit laugh  . later ibime will be dissing people that quote wikipedia

oyb:

keep celebrating.

just keep in mind that while most of you are celebrating nigeria's decent into anarchy from the safety of the west, those dear to you are still on ground here, and not protected from the outcomes of these actions.

most of you are probably too scared to come home anyway - what with kidnapping and now bombing - you'd probably need armored cars to move around.

So we were not in anarchy before MEND right? I wonder what we'd call the reign of terror Abacha unleashed on us then.

Like i said earlier, your capacity to suspend reason is unrivaled.

So we were not in anarchy before MEND right? I wonder what we'd call the reign of terror Abacha unleashed on us then.

Like i said earlier, your capacity to suspend reason is unrivaled.

look at this slow thinking retard . better stop playing lab rat with your chemicals

were people being kidnapped left and right during abacha's days?

there have been two bomb incidents in benin in the space of a week.

during abacha's reign, he targeted his enemies with sgt rogers and co

this is different.

mend have introduced a new dimension. don't worry, we will soon see the likes of you gnashing your teeth when politicians commission bombing campaigns against their rivals

oyb:

[size=14pt]show one thread where i have supported bomb /suicide attacks by Palestinians - you godforsaken lying excuse for a human being. [/size]

there is no point doing so . . . there are better things to do than justifying bloody mohammedans.

oyb:

the mend you are celebrating kidnapped inncocent civilians - justify that . what widespread warning are you bleating about? most people were not aware of any warning until they logged onto nairaland. are you so silly and callous that you think the average citizen has unlimited access to the internet?

This is incredibly stup[i]i[/i]d.

1. MEND kidnaps innocent civilians but RARELY kill them. for the most part they are well cared for and usually released later (no wonder the expatriates are still working in the ND despite all the "kidnap threats". Contrast that to the "palestinians" who kidnap their targets, execute them on TV and the internet (yelling that demonic allahu archedbar) and then post it on the web for kids to see).

2. Most people not being aware of MEND's warning is probably down to the level of education. At least they dont go on buses and bars blowing up women and children with impunity unlike your own heroes.

oyb:

i am condemning car bombs in any form or manner, and pointing out what we all know about you and double standards - you have no problem with atrocities when they are committed by people you 'support' .

You only do so when it is convenient for you as usual . . . al taqiya at play . . . no surprises there.

oyb:

mend have bombed pipelines and caused damage to the environment. is that the hallmark of a responsible movement?

If the palestinians only bombed water treatment plants and caused damage to the environment no one would even notice the ME existed. Fool.

oyb:

i no fit laugh  . later ibime will be dissing people that quote wikipedia

au contraire, Im a big fan of Wikipedia cos it quotes references from other legitimate sources.