PrinxArthur1: south African Electronic jammer has only 1km radius jamming capability while Nigeria has 30km - 50km jamming capability

South African police has one toy electronic jammer on top jeep
They are not even ashamed to post it here, see the antenna like that of toilet cockroach
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South African Police Services Police College.....South Africa values its police and shall never be treated like pigs

@AUGUSTUS ELECTRONIC JAMMERS OPERATES ONLY ON FREQUNCIES AND THE Long Distance Jammer 6 – 18 GHz not 50 Kilometres......Why 50 Km when a bomb is within 2 Km range.....So if it does affect 50 Km then the whole country comes to a stand still........TO REMIND FREQUNCIES ARE NOT MEASURED IN KILOMETRES OR YOU WERE THUMB SUCKING AGAIN MUMU

Thiza: @AUGUSTUS ELECTRONIC JAMMERS OPERATES ONLY ON FREQUNCIES AND THE Long Distance Jammer 6 – 18 GHz not 50 Kilometres......Why 50 Km when a bomb is within 2 Km range.....So if it does affect 50 Km then the whole country comes to a stand still........TO REMIND FREQUNCIES ARE NOT MEASURED IN KILOMETRES OR YOU WERE THUMB SUCKING AGAIN MUMU

I mean its wavelength stretches upto 50km so that a novice can understand dude

agaugust:

South Africa has NO air defense GBADS system as at today, plan is to start 2015 and complete 2017 approximately. Today you have nothing

The GBADS system purchase will fail and be suspended because of lack of funds and embargo on new military purchases in South Africa...nation is broke....no money

1960s SA-2 and SA-3 missiles shot down American modern F-16 jets and F-117 Stealth jet fighters in Yugoslavia war around year 2000 modern days.

Nigeria bought Roland 1985....not 1970s....fool

Roland is a battle tested missile that s.hot down the best British air force jets in two different wars.

Umhkonto missile has never shot down one single Pigeon bird
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South Africa has NO air defense GBADS system as at today, plan is to start 2015 and complete 2017 approximately. Today you have nothing

GBADS is in phase 3 of 4.

We have aquired the radar systems
We have aquired tactical MANPADS
We have aquired CRAM capabilities
Phase 4 is the introduction of Uhmkonto mobile launchers

The money has allready been set aside for the project, the project will be completed.

The GBADS system purchase will fail and be suspended because of lack of funds and embargo on new military purchases in South Africa...nation is broke....no money

1. We have a bigger national budget than you
2. We are not broke
3. The SANDF is underfunded as they have not allocated new funds since 2012 as they are awaiting the outcome of the Defense Review. It has been completed, will be in Parliament in September and will be passed by the end of the year.

Roland is a battle tested missile that s.hot down the best British air force jets in two different wars.

Low flying jets, neither of which are as sophisticated as the Gripen.

1960s SA-2 and SA-3 missiles shot down American modern F-16 jets and F-117 Stealth jet fighters in Yugoslavia war around year 2000 modern days.

We have been over this, they shot down the F-117 by using WW2 flak tactics - they knew its trajectory and altitude (because they operated their radar at very low frequencies - and guess what, you cannot target with low frequency), did some triganometry and spammed where the plane was going to be with missiles that were pre-set to detonate at a set altitude.

You could have done the same with a WW2 88 mm Flack gun

Umhkonto missile has never shot down one single Pigeon bird

It has been tested against multiple targets.

agaugust:

South African police has one toy electronic jammer on top jeep
They are not even ashamed to post it here, see the antenna like that of toilet cockroach
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I still dont see any citations

patches689:

I still dont see any citations

The two photos tell it all.

Keep asking for citations to prove that M-16 rifle and Beretta Pistol have very different technical capabilities. Mumu
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@AUGUSTUS JUST EXPLAIN HOW POSSIBLE IS IT TO NEUTRALISE A BOMB 50 KILOMETRES AWAY THROUGH WAVELENGHT.....MEANING THAT PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF A HUMAN IS BECOMING IRRELEVANT AND NO WORRY ANYMORE....SINCE A SWITCH CAN PERFORM THE WHOLE OPERATION.....VIVA NIGERIA NO WAY BH BOYS CAN BOMB THE COUNTRY BACK TO STONE AGE.....AMERICA AND THE WEST MUST NOT WORRY ABOUT BOMBS AS ACCORDING TO @AUGUSTUS THEORY YOU CAN JAM A BOMB 50 KILOMETRES AWAY THROUGH WAVELENGHT

agaugust:

The two photos tell it all.

Keep asking for citation to prove M-16 rifle and Beretta Pistol don't have the same technical capabilities. Mumu
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Cool argument.

But we only care about citations.

patches689:

Cool argument.

But we only care about citations.

When you see a Crocodile and a Cockroach, your open eyes need no citations...or are you blind ?
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@AUGUSTUS....according to his flawed theory of wavelenght, an airline can request any country it flies over to activate jammers over the range of recurring 50 km range over and over until it reaches its own destination....HAIL @AUGUSTUS NOMORE WORRY ABOUT THE BOMBS AS THEY CAN SIMPLE BE JAMMED

@AUGUSTUS this is the more sophisticated cellphone jammer

agaugust:

When you see a Crocodile and a Cockroach, your open eyes need no citations...or are you blind ?
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First you must prove that one is a Crocodile and the other is a Cockroach.

Size means nothing in the 21st century

PrinxArthur1: in dreamz

Yep,the Nigerian navy is only worth to be taught boarding drills. Not real combat exercises.

PrinxArthur1: Nigerian Roland missile approximately mach 2

I won't bother replying to this one.

patches689:

No, everyone cares what the white man has to say.

Its a white mans world.

And this is coming from a person of color.

The world belongs to no one, but I would expect nothing other than such a slave p u s$y mentality form a little malnourished South African bush warrior like yourself. You've just proven what I've been saying all along in this thread South Africans are scared of the white minority for no good reason other than the fact that they're cowards, SA is a disgrace to all black people around the world.

patches689:

First you must prove that one is a Crocodile and the other is a Cockroach.

Size means nothing in the 21st century

Okay go to the Zoo, ask them to open Crocodile cage for you, enter inside, tell them to lock the cage behind you, then stamp your right leg on the Crocodile's head same way you kill Cockroach....Size means nothing in the 21st century

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HandOfChukwu: The world belongs to no one, but I would expect nothing other than such a slave p u s$y mentality form a little malnourished South African bush warrior like yourself. You've just proven what I've been saying all along in this thread South Africans are scared of the white minority for no good reason other than the fact that they're cowards, SA is a disgrace to all black people around the world.

Dude, the fact that you speak english, wear western cloths and have access to technology proves that its a white mans world.

Our laws.
Our economic system.
Our medicine
Our everything

All comes from one thing: Whites

Being colored and in a white mans world has not stopped my from acheiving what I want.

But, you being a black man and deluding yourself about silly notions of "white devils" is what is keeping you a narrow minded underclass.

Only fools see for world for what it should be and not what it is.

btw, yes, we are bush warriors, we won our freedom through combat. We won our peace through combat. South Africa is what it is today because after 300 years, whites and blacks got tired of smashing the sh1t out of each other and decided to settle in peace. Are we perfect? No. But we are more free and more equal than your mind can even comprehend. While on the other hand, the british just got bored of nigeria and left and you remain the slaves of your black masters - in true Nigerian style, the powerful sell their brothers to the west

agaugust:

Okay go to the Zoo, ask them to open Crocodile cage for you, enter inside, tell them to lock the cage behind you, then stamp your right leg on the Crocodile's head same way you kill Cockroach....Size means nothing in the 21st century

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So, at this point, you have no facts to substantiate your claims, and now are making illogical arguments about animals?

lol, ok

Stop telling lies and post sense

patches689:

South Africa has NO air defense GBADS system as at today, plan is to start 2015 and complete 2017 approximately. Today you have nothing

GBADS is in phase 3 of 4.

No, your GBADS is actually in phase 0.

South African GBADS air defense system is scheduled to be completed in 2017, you cannot use incomplete equipment.

http://www.defencetalk.com/rheinmetall-to-modernize-south-africas-air-defense-59165/

With the current cash shortage, and indefinite suspension of ALL new equipment/weapon purchases, SANDF will be getting GBADS after year 2020.

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agaugust:

No, your GBADS is actually in phase 0.

South African GBADS air defense system is scheduled to be completed in 2017, you cannot use incomplete equipment.

http://www.defencetalk.com/rheinmetall-to-modernize-south-africas-air-defense-59165/

With the current cash shortage, and indefinite suspension of ALL new equipment/weapon purchases, SANDF will be getting GBADS after year 2020.

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Clown

Skysheild is just one of many phases of the GBADS programe.

Starstreak and various Radar and Fire-system acquisitions were Phase 2 and 1 respectively.

Are you really just going to lie straight to my face?

And no equipment/weapon purchases have been indefinitely suspended.

Former members of the South African Special Forces....on the photos during the combat action in Sierra Leone under the banner of the Private company known as Executive Outcome

patches689:

South Africa has NO air defense GBADS system as at today, plan is to start 2015 and complete 2017 approximately. Today you have nothing

GBADS is in phase 3 of 4.

We have aquired the radar systems
We have aquired tactical MANPADS
We have aquired CRAM capabilities
Phase 4 is the introduction of Uhmkonto mobile launchers

The money has allready been set aside for the project, the project will be completed.

The GBADS system purchase will fail and be suspended because of lack of funds and embargo on new military purchases in South Africa...nation is broke....no money

1. We have a bigger national budget than you
2. We are not broke
3. The SANDF is underfunded as they have not allocated new funds since 2012 as they are awaiting the outcome of the Defense Review. It has been completed, will be in Parliament in September and will be passed by the end of the year.

Roland is a battle tested missile that s.hot down the best British air force jets in two different wars.

Low flying jets, neither of which are as sophisticated as the Gripen.

1960s SA-2 and SA-3 missiles shot down American modern F-16 jets and F-117 Stealth jet fighters in Yugoslavia war around year 2000 modern days.

We have been over this, they shot down the F-117 by using WW2 flak tactics - they knew its trajectory and altitude (because they operated their radar at very low frequencies - and guess what, you cannot target with low frequency), did some triganometry and spammed where the plane was going to be with missiles that were pre-set to detonate at a set altitude.

You could have done the same with a WW2 88 mm Flack gun

Umhkonto missile has never shot down one single Pigeon bird

It has been tested against multiple targets.

The next phase of the GBADS entails the delivery of the ground based Umkhonto missile and RSR 320 missile guidance radar.

All which will be linked,so a commander sitting somewhere with his compact C2 system will be able to have a clear view of the battlefield.

Let's focus more on air defense,you can have your: 1. GBADS 2. Ground based radar 3. Mobile radar 4. Multi-role fighter jets.

If any aircraft strays into the "no flight zone",the air defence chief will have options on whether to intercept with jets or shot down with the GBADS. "At the tips of his fingers".

The GBADS will offer a 24/7 automatic air surveillance and visual ID of suspected systems in the zone,meaning civilian aircraft which strayed can be intercepted and escorted out.

The minister of defence can see exactly what her/his commanders are seeing at the operations Centre and on the soldiers ground via portable systems.

Completion of the GBADS project will give SA a modern air defense capability.

agaugust:

No, your GBADS is actually in phase 0.

South African GBADS air defense system is scheduled to be completed in 2017, you cannot use incomplete equipment.

http://www.defencetalk.com/rheinmetall-to-modernize-south-africas-air-defense-59165/

With the current cash shortage, and indefinite suspension of ALL new equipment/weapon purchases, SANDF will be getting GBADS after year 2020.

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You're referring to the delivery of the Skyshield air defense systems. It is part of the GBADS not the GBADS.

Systems will be delivered throughout the years until completion in 2017. Military contracts are executed in years. The contract includes C2 systems,upgrading the twin barrel MKV guns,delivery of radars,training and other stuff.

Go cry to Beegeagles that Nigeria needs an equivalent system

MikeZA: The next phase of the GBADS entails the delivery of ground based Umkhonto missile and RSR 320 missile guidance radar.

All which will linked,so a commander sitting somewhere with his compact C2 system will be able to have a clear view of the battlefield.

Let's focus more on air defense,you can have your: 1. GBADS 2. Ground based radar 3. Mobile radar 4. Multi-role fighter jets.

If any aircraft strays into the "no flight zone",the air defence chief will have options on whether to intercept with jets or shot down with the GBADS. "At the tips of his fingers".

The GBADS will offer 24/7 automatic air surveillance and visual ID of suspected systems in the zone,meaning civilian aircraft which strayed can be intercepted and escorted out.

The minister of defence can see exactly what her/his commanders are seeing at operations Centre and the soldiers ground via portable systems.

Completion of the GBADS project will give SA a modern air defense capability.

Are they changing the Umkhonto's flight and performance characteristics for the mobile launcher system?

For example, an Su-27/Su-30 can fly over our air-defense dome. And with modern percision weapons... that could be a problem...

But then again, unlike Nigeria we will have CRAM, so we can actually effectivly engage any ordinance said fighter drops.

Yet again, the thing i keep saying over and over

We build SYSTEMS where everything is designed to support everything else.
Nigeria buys individual ASSETS that are supposed to work in ISOLATION and somehow be effective

Thiza: Nigerian Army has been accussed for a very long time for extra judicial execution

Four Nigerian policemen have appeared in court in the first public hearing over the killing of radical Islamist leader Mohammed Yusuf in 2009.

The Boko Haram leader was captured alive in Maiduguri and paraded in front of video cameras, but his body was later displayed riddled with bullets.

There's a FlatKop that asked who killed Lucky Dube. Could the FlatKop kindly tell us who killed Ken Saro-wiwa?

Rubbish military, I say.

Women caused the soldiers to sit down and to drink garri "by force". They are tired of the uselessness.

Boko Haram: Nigerian soldiers’ wives maintain blockade, insist husbands won’t fight until well armed - See more at: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/166527-boko-haram-nigerian-soldiers-wives-maintain-blockade-insist-husbands-wont-fight-until-well-armed.html#sthash.Ua5o0mCo.dpuf

The wives and children of soldiers at the Giwa Barracks, Maiduguri, have maintained their blockade of the barracks 48 hours after they started.

PREMIUM TIMES had reported on how dozens of women and children have since Saturday forcefully stopped military trucks from transporting their husbands and fathers to Gwoza. The protesters blocked the gates of the barracks that houses the 21 Armoured brigade of the Nigerian army. They demanded quality fighting equipment for the soldiers.

SOuth Africa

SANDF

patches689:

Are they changing the Umkhonto's flight and performance characteristics for the mobile launcher system?

For example, an Su-27/Su-30 can fly over our air-defense dome. And with modern percision weapons... that could be a problem...

But then again, unlike Nigeria we will have CRAM, so we can actually effectivly engage any ordinance said fighter drops.

Yet again, the thing i keep saying over and over

We build SYSTEMS where everything is designed to support everything else.
Nigeria buys individual ASSETS that are supposed to work in ISOLATION and somehow be effective

Yes,the ground based Umkhonto will have a longer range and flight ceiling.

With data links the air defence chief,if detected that SU-27/30 will be tracked,if it changes its flights to high altitudes to be engaged by GBADS,the Gripens will intercept it using real time info(via Link-ZA) from the GBADS sensors.

It is a layered air defence system the last tier has a CRAM capability missiles,mortars,artillery will be destroyed mid air. Their POI(point of impact) will be calculated,so if the bomb or missile will hit an area unoccupied by friendly forces it will be ignored.

MikeZA: Their POI(point of impact) will be calculated,so if the bomb or missile will hit an area unoccupied by friendly forces it will be ignored.

so in a hypothetical war with nigeria we would end up ignoring 99% of the munitions they fire at us