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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:13pm On Sep 20, 2014
GreenandGold:

Seen the latest news? While the NA was busy shooting their commanders, BH was feeding itself in the village market.

m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Boko-Haram-kill-several-as-they-loot-Nigeria-market-20140920


Pooooh, your story is not sweet, Boko Haram 'nation' has been reduced to food robbing hungry men, I thought they announced they own a new 'Nation-Islamic-Caliphate'....so their own Kings and rulers are so caged by our army, that they steal food from market to eat and then run !

What a kingdom of losers like South Africa ! tongue tongue tongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:23pm On Sep 20, 2014
GreenandGold:

Cocktail buying as usual, 20 of this, 11 of that then 9 of something else..

The Nigerian Army doesn't need tanks for it current threat, but anyway whom am I telling? No one in Nigeria seems to listen.

Spirit of envy is eating your intestines up from inside shocked shocked

Nigeria has more and better weapons than South Africa today.

former 30 + 40 new combat helicopters vs 11 Rooivalk fat turkeys shocked shocked

We are buying new tanks that CANNOT be penetrated by SANDF Olifant tang guns, Milan ATGM , Mokopa and Ingwe missiles all useless !

Nigerian army will slice through South African army like a hot knife through butter shocked shocked

The first 2 units are on the way to Abuja by air !


http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo




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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:28pm On Sep 20, 2014
Msauza:

That's a good wish, its good to dream sometimes.

Dream comes true already...Go jump inside a deep well shocked shocked

http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:29pm On Sep 20, 2014
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Boko Haram's Famous Mowag APC Captured In Battle By The Great Nigerian Army....

The Pride Of All Africa, Nigerian Army Rides Into Town With Boko's Mowag APC !

South African Army, Try Equal This, Go Back To Bangui, Recapture Seleka's SANDF Gecko Vehicles tongue tongue

NAF, Africa's Deadly Air Force Destroyed Boko Haram's Stolen Cobra APC's From The Air !

South African Air Force Should Fly Gripen Jets To C.A.R Bangui And Do Same To Seleka Rebels !

Ahhhhh !!!!! Nigerian Army Is The Best In Africa O !!!

This Is New African Record O !

Even Our Enemy Sahara Reporters Could NOT Deny It.....

http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/17/nigerian-troops-parade-apc-captured-boko-haram-fighters-maiduguri

[img]http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxzKs2VCMAApCSI.jpg:medium[/img]

South African Army Its Your Turn, Go To Seleka Rebels And Try Equal Nigerian Army tongue tongue


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:29pm On Sep 20, 2014
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:36am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

Spirit of envy is eating your intestines up from inside shocked shocked

Nigeria has more and better weapons than South Africa today.

former 30 + 40 new combat helicopters vs 11 Rooivalk fat turkeys shocked shocked

We are buying new tanks that CANNOT be penetrated by SANDF Olifant tang guns, Milan ATGM , Mokopa and Ingwe missiles all useless !

Nigerian army will slice through South African army like a hot knife through butter shocked shocked

The first 2 units are on the way to Abuja by air !


http://www.informe.com.ua/en/page/119843/ukraine-to-send-two-sophisticated-tanks-to-nigeria-photo




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2 T-80s?

And how are they relevant?

2 Ingwe or 2 Makopa and they are gone

Remember that South Africa has a long history of defeating Armor with IFV's

Get back to us when you have a couple hundred

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:45am On Sep 21, 2014
Patchesagain:

2 T-80s?

And how are they relevant?

2 Ingwe or 2 Makopa and they are gone

Remember that South Africa has a long history of defeating Armor with IFV's

Get back to us when you have a couple hundred


No, you get back to us when you have 40 Rooivalk helicopter gunships grin grin

Nigeria has no tank purchase of only 2 units in our history, minimum number we ever purchased is 136 units.

The T-84 is urgently needed in war zone, so first 2 units are being sent by air, normal tank purchase is shipped by sea.

Don't die yet my brother, stay alive to see the remaining battalions of T-84 enter Nigerian army service in a few weeks from now.

Our T-84 tank CANNOT be penetrated by any anti-tank missile in Africa including SANDF Milan ATGM, this Nigerian tanks will invade South Africa and drive freely from Cape Town to Durban to Soweto to Pretoria and NOTHING can defeat then, it cannot be penetrated by the HEAT shells of your 105mm Olifant tank, it has Composite armour....

Nigeria now has the best tank in Africa, South Africa is now the rag tag army with old out-dated weapons, wow !

The tables have turned on this thread and is still turning faster every day grin grin

South Africa is finished ! grin grin
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:00am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:


No, you get back to us when you have 40 Rooivalk helicopter gunships grin grin

Nigeria has no tank purchase of only 2 units in our history, minimum number we ever purchased is 136 units.

The T-84 is urgently needed in war zone, so first 2 units are being sent by air, normal tank purchase is shipped by sea.

Don't die yet my brother, stay alive to see the remaining battalions of T-84 enter Nigerian army service in a few weeks from now.

Our T-84 tank CANNOT be penetrated by any anti-tank missile in Africa including SANDF Milan ATGM, this Nigerian tanks will invade South Africa and drive freely from Cape Town to Durban to Soweto to Pretoria and NOTHING can defeat then, it cannot be penetrated by the HEAT shells of your 105mm Olifant tank, it has Composite armour....

Nigeria now has the best tank in Africa, South Africa is now the rag tag army with old out-dated weapons, wow !

The tables have turned on this thread and is still turning faster every day grin grin

South Africa is finished ! grin grin
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lol - you have one untrusted source that says two were sent. Will 2 make a difference?

I challenge you to find a reputable source: SIPRI, Janes ect

Its just another mythical aquisition in line with the T-72's cheesy

And yes, the Ingwe and Mokopa can penetrate it:

Ingwe:

This is fitted with the same HEAT warhead (with the option of a new HEAT warhead) and a nose mounted precursor charge. It is estimated that this warhead will penetrate around 1,000 mm of RHA protected by ERA
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2101.html

Conclusion: Ingwe can penetrate it

Mokopa:

The primary role will be anti-armour for which a tandem High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) warhead able to penetrate over 1,350 mm of rolled homogenous steel armour, protected by Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA)
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product869.html

Conclusion: Mokopa can penetrate it

Milan ER:

"The warhead can penetrate 1m explosive reactive armour (ERA) or rolled homogenous armour, or over 3m of reinforced concrete."
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/milan-er-extended-response-anti-tank-missile-system/

Conclusion: Milan ER can penetrate it

And 11 Rooivalks armed with up to 12 Makopa each are more than enough to handle 2 T-82's

Infact, they could handle 132 of them in just one attack cheesy

And lets not even talk about what a Paveway dropped from a Gripen will do to it



Keep dreaming kid

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:21am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

Nope, America deployed about half a million soldiers and thousands of jet fighters, helicopters, tanks, artillery in Vietnam war.

South Africa has a constant history of small tiny war deployments, only 4,000 men less than even one brigade in Bush war, with scanty number of jet fighters, and some few tanks.

America is NOT your mate, so don't even compare.

Nigeria deployed 15,000 men in Liberia, followed by 20,000 men in Niger Delta, followed by over 30,000 men in North East today.

Now that is why I say Nigeria has the most experienced army in Africa today by diversity and constancy of hard battlefield experience.

After bush war, South Africa's ANC flushed out 99% of the experienced white military men of the brutal apartheid era to prevent a coup or sabotage of Mandela presidency.

America kept her experienced men till Iraq the war, they don't have the messy apartheid problem that weakened and shattered SADF when it was downgraded to SANDF, replacing the few white combat experienced men with crowds of in-experienced, hungry, jobless, half-illiterate, low-intelligence, and chicken hearted HIV infected black South Africans.

That was how South African military human capacity fell down from grace to grass today and forever grin grin
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o look all these statements and no citations.

Gee, its allmost like someone is giving us their opinion and not facts

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:29am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

Nope...

Nigeria had many thousands of soldiers fight world war I that is 100 years ago

Nigeria had many thousands of soldiers fight world war II among 500,000 West African soldiers

Nigerian army has about 300,000 soldiers fight in Biafra war.

In the last 100 years Nigeria has more war experience than South Africa, Nigerian nation was formed and named in 1914.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nigerian-who-fought-burma-wwii-remembered
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1. No Nigerian soldiers fought in WW1 - they were labourers
2. No Nigerian soldiers fought in WW2 - they were labourers
3. Biafra war was semi-conventional and the enemy did not have any advanced weapons

Do you want to compare numbers?

WW1: 231,500
WW2: 334,000
Border War: Average troops deployment 4K, yearly rotations for 25 years = 100 000 vetrans

In all these wars we were committed to full spectrum warfare, planes, ships, tanks artillery everything.

Nigeria cannot compare in any way.

And lets mention Korea shall we:

The squadron was South Africa's contribution to the United Nations war effort during the Korean War from November 1950 to December 1953. 2 Squadron was attached to USAF 18th Fighter-Bomber Wing for the duration of the war.[4] Initially flying the P-51 Mustang, the squadron re-equipped with the F-86 Sabre in February 1953. During the war the squadron flew a total of 12 067 sorties, most being dangerous ground attack missions. 74 of the 94 Mustangs and 4 out of the 22 Sabres were lost, along with 34 pilots.

For its actions, the squadron received the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation, United States Presidential Unit Citation, and numerous other awards and decorations.

The Commanding Officer of the United States Air Force's 18th FBW, to which the squadron was assigned, issued a directive at the end of the war that:[5]

In memory of our gallant South African comrades, it is hereby established, as a new policy that at all Retreat Ceremonies held by this Wing, the playing of our National Anthem shall be preceded by playing the introductory bars of the South African National Anthem, 'Die Stem van Suid-Afrika'. All personnel of this Wing will render the same honours to this Anthem as our own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Squadron_SAAF#Korean_War

Feel free to show us other Nations militaries that sing your anthem!!

We have more WW2 Aces than Nigeria has fighter-jets cool

And, btw, Nigeria only came into existence in 1960

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:31am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

You go get some education.

SANDF deployed special forces and the 21 Battalion plus air force helicopter that perished inside Kruger park.

Use any language, your military was fighting Rhino poachers and they lost the war

Stop denying SANDF was operating anytime they failed, your army is your army whether they win or lose.

"The SANDF is active on two fronts in firstly ensuring protection of rhino populations on military land through the treatment of horns of living animals and secondly, taking part in inter-departmental initiatives among various government departments and agencies. These include the SA Revenue Service, SA Police Service, the intelligence community and SANParks, all of whom bring unique resources to joint anti-rhino poaching operations,” he said."

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34762:the-sandf-and-rhino-poaching&catid=87:border-security

SANDF lost the war....beaten blue black by Rhino poachers including the ones on SANDF owned military land
grin grin
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"Rhino populations on MILITARY LAND"

Is Kruger Park military land?

Lol, you just showed off your complete illiteracy

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:32am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:


One single man Mr.Dangote of Nigeria is busy buying up your economy grin grin
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How could he?

How dont you understand that Dangote is nothing on our economic landscape

We are busy buying up AFRICA

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:34am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

One single letter of threat to withdraw MTN's telecoms license, Jacob Zuma will pay Nigeria double of that $9.3 m in 24 hours
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MTN Nigeria is the only company that is based in Nigeria that is amongst the 50 biggest in Africa

One threat to withdraw MTN from Nigeria and Goodluck will be on his knees offering JZ a BJ grin

Thanks for the free $9.3m we will be sure to spend it well grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:37am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

Nigerian air force built that device two years ago, come to and learn trade secrets
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Sure they did

And Shakira was in my bed last night
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:38am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:

It was 1,500 Seleka Vs 300 SANDF army parabats & special forces, ALL of whom surrendered to Seleka in 13 hours with a spotless white flag



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please show us a source that says we surrendered

and btw, it was 4000 v 200
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:33am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

You only have 10 half-french helicopters for a 471,359sq land mass. Pathetic.

Deliveries for nigeria's 40 have already began.
Our defence force fights as a system not through individual units. That's we have MIL-STD data links and EW kit.

And further increasing training of junior officers. And funding projects like Legend.

The 11 Rooivalks are part of fleet of more than 60 helicopters. Again you dreamt SAAF has 11 Rooivalks,keep your wet dreams to your self Mr.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:44am On Sep 21, 2014
Patchesagain:

How could he?

How dont you understand that Dangote is nothing on our economic landscape

We are busy buying up AFRICA
when it comes to exports,we are dominating SADC. This is not the case with Nigeria in ECOWAS.

Nigeria isn't dominant in her region like we are in SADC. SA is a regional power on the move,to further consolidated our continental leadership. While Nigeria is isolated and on occasions her neighbours "chop her land".

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:10am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

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Reliable security sources confided in PRNigeria that some of the helicopters will arrive the country as early as next month, while the remaining will be received certainly before the end of the year to boost the Nigerian Airforce."

Reliable for sure, just like how agubugubu always seem to have "reliable" sources of ordered weapons that never get delivered.

Here is a reliable fact, Boko Haram will attack another town (AKA village) next week and the Nigerian Army will run to the closest borders.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 7:28am On Sep 21, 2014
agaugust:


What a kingdom of losers like South Africa ! tongue tongue tongue
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Like South Africa? Lets see;

Military

- We fought the Germans (twice)
- We fought the Italians
- We fought the Koreans
- We fought the Cubans

Which of the above have you fought? The SANDF can take Abuja with less resistance, you would have fled to your neighbors.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:30am On Sep 21, 2014
Patchesagain:

MTN Nigeria is the only company that is based in Nigeria that is amongst the 50 biggest in Africa

One threat to withdraw MTN from Nigeria and Goodluck will be on his knees offering JZ a BJ grin

Thanks for the free $9.3m we will be sure to spend it well grin

Who needs MTN nigeria, when Glo nigeria can just as easily swallow up the poor south-african company.

You don't want to go into a tit for tat sanctions with President GEJ. President GEJ would severely deal with zuma, this i can assure you. Only a threat to nationalise
MTN would send your illiterate president pleading for mercy.

The yellow fever controversy where we deported 3 south-africans for every 1 nigerian would be a walk in the park.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:36am On Sep 21, 2014
MikeZA: Our defence force fights as a system not through individual units. That's we have MIL-STD data links and EW kit.

And further increasing training of junior officers. And funding projects like Legend.

The 11 Rooivalks are part of fleet of more than 60 helicopters. Again you dreamt SAAF has 11 Rooivalks,keep your wet dreams to your self Mr.

You have no Data links.

You only got 10 half-french helicopters for a 471, 359 sq land mass. Fact. Pathetic limousine airforce.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:39am On Sep 21, 2014
MikeZA: when it comes to exports,we are dominating SADC. This is not the case with Nigeria in ECOWAS.

Nigeria isn't dominant in her region like we are in SADC. SA is a regional power on the move,to further consolidated our continental leadership. While Nigeria is isolated and on occasions her neighbours "chop her land".

When it comes to exports, we dominate the entire west and central africa region. We also carry the rest of the region along. 75% of all manufacturing in the region comes from nigeria.

Angola is the dominant power in the SADC region.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:43am On Sep 21, 2014
GreenandGold:

Like South Africa? Lets see;

Military

- We fought the Germans (twice)
- We fought the Italians
- We fought the Koreans
- We fought the Cubans

Which of the above have you fought? The SANDF can take Abuja with less resistance, you would have fled to your neighbors.

White south-africa fought the germans. Apparently, 87% of the rest of the population were busy screaming, yes massa and serving tea to P.W botha and his fore-fathers.

Know the difference.

On the other hand, we fought off the japanese in burma in world war 2, and have been engaged in sucking off the air from the enemy since then.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 10:21am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

Who needs MTN nigeria, when Glo nigeria can just as easily swallow up the poor south-african company.

You don't want to go into a tit for tat sanctions with President GEJ. President GEJ would severely deal with zuma, this i can assure you. Only a threat to nationalise
MTN would seen your illiterate president pleading for mercy.

The yellow fever controversy where we deported 3 south-africans for every 1 nigerian would be a walk in the park.

Who needs MTN? you do otherwise your pathetic 419 economy wouldn't have a representative in the prestigious Africa's Top 30 Companies.

As for deporting South Africans in Nigeria, your country will go back to the stone ages - you're useless without South Africa.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 10:25am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

When it comes to exports, we dominate the entire west and central africa region. We also carry the rest of the region along. 75% of all manufacturing in the region comes from nigeria.

Angola is the dominant power in the SADC region.

You mean Angola is more useful than Nigeria? Hack, even Mali is more useful than the terrorist infested useless piece of dust called Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 10:27am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

White south-africa fought the germans. Apparently, 87% of the rest of the population were busy screaming, yes massa and serving tea to P.W botha and his fore-fathers.

Know the difference.

On the other hand, we fought off the japanese in burma in world war 2, and have been engaged in sucking off the air from the enemy since then.

You mean you served your colonial masters well in Burma? .. faithful niggas, you will get bananas for that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 10:33am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

You have no Data links.

You only got 10 half-french helicopters for a 471, 359 sq land mass. Fact. Pathetic limousine airforce.

Do you know what a Data Link is? You're probably confusing it with an email link to a 419 phishing site. We can kindly explain what it is.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dragon2(m): 10:50am On Sep 21, 2014
@agaugust
It seems as though T-72's are on the way together with MLRS(BM-27&30) and Shilka's,not yet official though.Check the usual.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:55am On Sep 21, 2014
Henry120:

White south-africa fought the germans. Apparently, 87% of the rest of the population were busy screaming, yes massa and serving tea to P.W botha and his fore-fathers.

Know the difference.

On the other hand, we fought off the japanese in burma in world war 2, and have been engaged in sucking off the air from the enemy since then.

Your men were labourers and human pack mules in Burma - less than a handful of engagements

By contrast, 300 000 South Africans helped turn the tide of the war. And our leader, Jan Smuts was selected to replace Churchill if he died before the war ended

And btw, I think 80 000 black South Africans served in WW2 - one of whom is responsible for sinking an enemy ship

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 21, 2014
GreenandGold:

Do you know what a Data Link is? You're probably confusing it with an email link to a 419 phishing site. We can kindly explain what it is.

South-Africa has no Data link.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Sep 21, 2014
GreenandGold:

You mean you served your colonial masters well in Burma? .. faithful niggas, you will get bananas for that.

Which are you, a thieving white-pig or a miserable yes massa, cowardly black south-african. You seem so butt-blasted.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:38pm On Sep 21, 2014
GreenandGold:

You mean Angola is more useful than Nigeria? Hack, even Mali is more useful than the terrorist infested useless piece of dust called Nigeria.

$510 billion, 25th largest and the absolute number one economy in Africa. I'll love to visit that place........... Oh wait, I already live there.


Meanwhile in south-africa. You come tops as the murder capital of the world, and the most un-equal country on the planet, again. A country where an average white house hold makes 10 times the income of 87% of the rest of the population. A country where 87% of the population only have a middle-income bracket of 15%.

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/jun/24/10-world-cities-highest-murder-rates-homicides-in-pictures


A country where 1 in 5 people is a filthy/ dirty HIV carrier. So of the 10 south-africans on this thread 2 of you are confirmed HIV carriers.

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