agaugust:

Let Cameroon show us 'Shekau II' dead body and Mowag APC the same way we display everything in Nigeria

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MikeZA: Shekau will pop up again to embarrass your military.

The thing is you don't even know who's Shehau.

agaugust:
Mokopa has 10km range, now show us the range of the FLIR targeting system on your Rooivalk helicopters.....it is less than 5km... Rooivalk will be withing death zone range of Nigerian army k.iller Roland anti-aircraft missiles and Shilka AAA has 7km maximum range.

Fool of Gauteng ; D ; D
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Henry120:

How is 10 Half-french helicopters equal to half of 24?

You don't have Half of your needs. Your military, especially your airforce is grossly under-equipped.

agaugust:


#ShowUs Proof Of mmW and IIR on Mokopa Missile

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Henry120:

Our Airforce constantly sees combat and is by no means under-equipped. We instead have decided to grow our fleet with 40 new helicopters.

19 previously ordered
21 remaining in 2015.

The MI-35M is one of the world's most advanced and sophisticated attack helicopter, and is miles ahead your half-french helicopter.

patches689:

Nigeria operates more than 24 SA 330 Puma and Super Puma helicopters. Nigeria also operates 6 MI-17 transport helicopters. We have received an additional 10 MI-171SH transport helicopters from our old orders.

The MI-35 is a better, more sophisticated attack helicopter than the Rooivalk. It also has the added advantage of carrying 8 fully equipped troops.

The Airforce flies 5 C-130's, 6 G-222 and 2 known Boeing 737-500 planes.

We have more

You have a requirement of limited requirement of just 24 helicopters, yet you could only afford 10.

A future requirement of 24, a current requirement of 10.

"Life in the South African military is not seen as desirable by many potential recruits. Pay can be erratic, HIV rates are as high as 25% (making these troops unavailable for external deployment) and an estimated 35% of South Africa's military barracks have been classed as unfit for human occupation since 2007 (Mail & Guardian [Johannesburg], April 21, 2012). Without money to operate sophisticated equipment, skilled staff continue to flee at the end of their enlistment and there is little opportunity for new recruits to train in skills useful in the civilian world. Parliament's Joint Standing Committee on Defense has described abuse of women in the SANDF as "common," adding that many female recruits have been impregnated by their instructors (BUAnews, November 26, 2011). Racial abuse of black subordinates by white senior officers also remains a problem 19 years into the integration process. South African troops are unionized and have at times clashed with police during pay disputes."

"look mom, i posted it again!"

An opinion piece based on old and out-dated data, discredited on this forum many times

No you don't, I've proven that multiple times, and I lack the will to educate you on this matter again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-ZA

http://www.reutechcomms.com/linkza/

http://www.reutech.co.za/news-events/news-archive/50-sandf-s-link-za

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6184:zz&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159

All these articles written about that which does not exist? I think you are having another mental breakdown

Oh no you don't. You only have 10, neither could do you have the money to operate them. The U.N pays for the operation of the helicopter in DRC as your government did not have the money to either fly them to the DRC or operate them in the DRC till the U.N reimburses.

The UN pays for their operation as that is standard UN procedure you clown


South Africa's once-effective air force has new aircraft but cannot afford the fuel and maintenance needed to keep them in the air. Despite this, one element of the air force that did see extensive time in the air was Squadron 21, charged with flying South African VIPs and government ministers. Former defense minister Lindiwe Sisilu booked 203 flights over three years in chartered luxury Gulfstream jets at an estimated cost of $4.5 million. Some 63 of the flights were empty, as they were intended solely to pick the minister up somewhere and take her to another destination in what one opposition critic described as "a staggering waste of money"

Our Grip pilots get as many training hours per year as US Fighter pilots, all our squadrons of helos and transports are operational.

All that articular says is that we wasted $4.5 million out of a budget of over $4 Billion

This is the Sad state of the south-african military. You can continue living in your fantasy land all you want, it doesn't however change the sad state of the SANDF.

As apposed to the Nigerian military:

- 18 Rebel groups operate in Nigeria
- Defeated multiple times in open battle by BH
- Lost multiple towns to BH
- Men mutiny
- Men shoot at commanders
- Half a battalion ran away into Cameroon
- you top the world terror rankings
- you leave men stranded on missions in Sudan
- you couldent get a Bn of men to Mali
- when they got there they were of such poor quality that they were regulated to guard duty
- Your Navy is unable to go to sea
- Your waters are the new piracy hot-spot of the world
- 3 of your ships have been blown up by their crews
- you "lose" a Alpha jet. not lost in combat, lost as in "we dont know where it is"
- Your own state leaders ADMIT THAT THEY CANNOT SAFELY ENTER THE CONTESTED AREAS IN NIGERIA

And you insult the SANDF because some ministers wasted some money on flights which support their personal duties?

Lol

Henry120:

In comparison to your landmass, your are poorly equipped. 10 helicopters for your land mass..... Lol

Henry120:

Again more paintings. Did you not play with crayons when you were little?


"All these articles written about that which does not exist? I think you are having another mental breakdown"

Classic........ When you don't have a rebuttal, this is what you resort to. Pathetic patrick.

"The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs," according to the Democratic Alliance, which was reacting to defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula's budget speech yesterday.


Mapisa-Nqakula told Parliamentarians they have to apply their minds to assist in righting the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) when she introduced her budget vote this week by ensuring the Defence Review had their full support.

That the country's military is not well was also stressed by opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister, David Maynier, who told the house the SANDF was "in deep trouble".

Responding to the Minister, the former submariner said it was not in fact a defence budget vote debate - "It is political farce dressed up as debate. We know very little about what is really going on in the SANDF".

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"

Enjoy reading.

patches689:

"A picture is worth a thousand words"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VpL8

MikeZA: A military fights as a systems similar to air defence.

Land mass? The SANDF is highly mobile.

Henry120:

Again more paintings. Did you not play with crayons when you were little?


"All these articles written about that which does not exist? I think you are having another mental breakdown"

Classic........ When you don't have a rebuttal, this is what you resort to. Pathetic patrick.

"The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs," according to the Democratic Alliance, which was reacting to defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula's budget speech yesterday.


Mapisa-Nqakula told Parliamentarians they have to apply their minds to assist in righting the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) when she introduced her budget vote this week by ensuring the Defence Review had their full support.

That the country's military is not well was also stressed by opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister, David Maynier, who told the house the SANDF was "in deep trouble".

Responding to the Minister, the former submariner said it was not in fact a defence budget vote debate - "It is political farce dressed up as debate. We know very little about what is really going on in the SANDF".

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"

Enjoy reading.

MikeZA: A military fights as a systems similar to air defence.

Land mass? The SANDF is highly mobile.

Henry120:

Comments from your defence minister is worth more.



The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs," according to the Democratic Alliance, which was reacting to defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula's budget speech yesterday.


Mapisa-Nqakula told Parliamentarians they have to apply their minds to assist in righting the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) when she introduced her budget vote this week by ensuring the Defence Review had their full support.

That the country's military is not well was also stressed by opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister, David Maynier, who told the house the SANDF was "in deep trouble".

Responding to the Minister, the former submariner said it was not in fact a defence budget vote debate - "It is political farce dressed up as debate. We know very little about what is really going on in the SANDF".

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"

ZeusAyo: do you know that the moment we add bitsy little manpads to the fray or add SAMs to the weapons suite of the oplot we have successfully denied your roivalk access because am sure the bald head called zuma wouldn't want to loose any of his already insufficient roivalks. **cheers**

Henry120:

Yes, highly mobile in a broke state.

patches689:

Answer my question:

What are these links talking about?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-ZA

http://www.reutechcomms.com/linkza/

http://www.reutech.co.za/news-events/news-archive/50-sandf-s-link-za

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6184:zz&catid=79:fact-files&Itemid=159


You are having a mental breakdown, you say we have no evidence, I give you evidence, you pretend you didnt see and keep saying we have no evidence? That is a sign of mental instability

Go take a rest. This is clearly too much for your fragile mind.

Henry120:

Comments from your defence minister is worth more.



The South African National Defence Force (SANDF), which should be saving lives, is becoming an "armed welfare service which is saving jobs," according to the Democratic Alliance, which was reacting to defence minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula's budget speech yesterday.


Mapisa-Nqakula told Parliamentarians they have to apply their minds to assist in righting the SA National Defence Force (SANDF) when she introduced her budget vote this week by ensuring the Defence Review had their full support.

That the country's military is not well was also stressed by opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister, David Maynier, who told the house the SANDF was "in deep trouble".

Responding to the Minister, the former submariner said it was not in fact a defence budget vote debate - "It is political farce dressed up as debate. We know very little about what is really going on in the SANDF".

"We are spending too much on personnel, we are spending too little on operations and we are spending much too little on capital acquisition,"

Henry120:

They don't even have an Airforce. They got no money to afford common aviation fuel.

Would you call that an airforce?

patches689:

#ShowUsNigerianJetsInTheSky

You only have 3 airworthy J-7's

patches689:

Broke SANDF > Nigerian Military

Eish, thanks for confirming.

#HisMentalBreakDownContinues

GreenandGold:

3 old school jets is not an airforce either.

Henry120:

Show us photos? According to you photos are worth more than a thousand words.

Or isn't that quote no longer relevant?

Fact is, you got no Data Links

agaugust:

Nigeria has 11 fully air worthy F-7 jets and 20 PL-9C missiles and 150 PL-7 missiles.

So if all the jets of an air force don't fly together in one photos then they are not operational? Then USAF needs to fly 2,000 jet fighters together inside one big photo....fool

Show us all 18 South African Gripen jets in one single photo flying together at the same time as proof they are all operational.

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Henry120:

#GoGetAvaitionFuel

Henry120:



You did not defeat M23 rebels. It was a joint UN effort with Indian MI-35 helicopters also carrying raids against M23.

Henry120:

#GoGetAvaitionFuel

patches689:

You mean, the SANDF said exactly what everyone says when they want more money?

Ok, you go to Parliament, and say "We are litterally decades ahead of all Sub-Saharan countries, but we would still like you to double our budget and give us $9 Billion on top of that"


See what happens

Learn2RealPolitik

Henry120:

Nope.

The minister said the actual state of your pathetic military.

Henry120:

You have no Data Links. Let us see photos. More links for links that don't exist. LOL

Try smarter. Show us SANDF operational links?