patches689:

Another mythical project

Of course, an intergovernmental agreement is not a contract that directly precedes construction, but it fits in with Rosatom’s plans to build a solid legal basis for international nuclear energy partnership.
Read more: http://voiceofrussia.com/2011/08/07/54312600/

Its an MOU you clown.

Meanwhile in South Africa:

Russia's atomic energy agency said Monday it will provide up to eight nuclear reactors to South Africa by 2023 in a $50m strategic partnership between the two countries

South Africa currently has only one nuclear power plant. The new Russian reactors are expected to go online in 2023.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/09/22/russia-and-south-africa-sign-nuclear-energy-deal

As usual, South Africans only talk of facts, Nigerians talk about dreams

Nigerians, come back and talk to us when you actually have a nuclear power plant

Nope, we signed agreement and South Africa too signed agreement according to your own source.

If ours is an MOU, then yours is an MOU too
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Thiza: Mr. Salkida’s tweet appeared to confirm that the Boko Haram “officer” killed by Nigerian soldiers in Konduga was a different person from Mr. Shekau. In fact, Nigerian security officials have maintained for months that Mr. Shekau was dead, apparently killed by his own disaffected lieutenants in an internal rivalry for control of the terrorist organization.

Ahmed Salkida, journalist
In a tweet earlier today, Mr. Salkida also dismissed media reports that the Nigerian government was negotiating with Boko Haram for the release of more than 200 schoolgirls kidnapped in mid-April by Boko Haram militants in Chibok, Borno State. The reporter’s tweet also described as untrue reports that the International Red Cross (IRC) was working on a deal that would persuade Boko Haram to free the abducted Chibok schoolgirls in exchange for the release of detained Islamist insurgents in the custody of Nigerian security agencies.

Nigerian army has 'ShekauII' dead body, ask the people who say no, to show us his living body talking

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Thiza: he reported killing of a top Boko Haram leader said to be Abubakar Shekau has again ignited a fresh controversy between Nigerian and Cameroonian troops.

The Cameroon Concord had on Monday quoted a military source as having said that Shekau was killed on Saturday by the Cameroonian Army during a cross border aerial bombardment of his hideout in Nigeria.

To prove the killing, the newspaper also published photographs of the bearded man it said was Shekau who usually appears in videos as the leader of Boko Haram.

It made reference to a statement by the Cameroonian military authorities on the killing but was silent on its content.

The paper added in the report that the Cameroon army had been in serious combat against thousands of Boko Haram fighters trying to enter Cameroon through Fotokol from Gamboru Ngala in Borno State.

But Nigeria’s Defence authorities dismissed the claim that the said Shekau was killed by Cameroonian security forces within Nigeria.

Let Cameroon show us 'Shekau II' dead body and Mowag APC the same way we display everything in Nigeria

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agaugust:

FAIL !!

Mokopa missiles does NOT have any mmW and IIR, they are hopeful upgrades NEVER done, according to your own source. The two technologies are American inventions NOT South African.....you are a thief

Even America has problem with mmW and has been slated for ban because it causes skin harming radiation and is viewed as 'chemical/biological weapon.' Anyway, South Africa does not have it, and it is NOT fitted on any Mokopa missile.

All Mokopa missiles are laser guided ONLY and Nigerian T-84 will jam them and they are useless

See another proof that confirms what I warned you about the weakness of Ingwe and Mokopa missiles, ALL their laser guidance systems can be jammed by ordinary smoke, not to even mention the advanced Virta Optronics Counter-Measures jamming of Nigerian army T-84 specially built to disable all enemy laser targeting systems from land and air.

"Conventional missile guidance systems use lasers for guidance but these are not useable in bad weather. With the capability to see through fog, rain, smoke and dust, missile guidance systems at mm-wavelengths provide an alternative."

"Millimetre-wave systems can only operate at distances of a few kilometres and so can only be used for short range missiles or when the missile is almost at its target to give precision aiming."

"This new technology has met with some criticism. The main concern is that the effects intensify on sweaty skin and may produce harmful hotspots as a result of a radiation build up"

http://www.vision4thefuture.org/s4_resources/3_military.htm

IIR guidance too does NOT exist on Mokopa or Ingwe missiles, South Africa does NOT have them, it is another American invention from 1970s....you are a liar and thief

"Imaging sensors were used with precision guided weapons since the early 1970. Until recently, lack of processing power and datalink capacity have limited the use of such guidance techniques to relatively short range direct attack weapons (such as Maverick) and medium range strike missiles (such as Have Lite and SLAM)."

http://defense-update.com/products/i/IIR-VIS-guidance.htm

Now Retaaard of Gauteng, you did NOT know the technology you were talking about and Nigerian's as usual have come to your rescue and educated you roundly

Also, the mmW is very short millimeter waves meaning thee user has to be very close to the target, then T-84 super tank of Nigeria has remote control anti-aircraft gun guided by sensors, rangefinders, and optics, it automatically fires on enemy aircraft, and any Rooivalk that comes close will be sh.ot down immediately !

Then your Rooivalk risks to comes close to our T-84 tank ? Nigerian army air defenses are there with newly arrived and currently in-service shilka AAA, Type 90 AAA, and Roland SAM.....ALL South African Rooivalk heicopters will be eaten up by Nigerian Roland missiles....and you no helicopter gunships anymore...$40 million x 10 = $400 million wasted in 5 minutes

Even if you fly Hawk jets, we will sh.oot them all down ! Nigeria too has an air force so come and taste out PL-9C air to air missiles !

ALL South African Mokopa and Ingwe anti-tank missiles are ONLY laser guided and will be jammed by ordinary smoke, not to even mention Nigeria's T-84 special Varta Optronics Super Jammers !

We drive T-84 Oplots unstoppable from Cape Town to Pretoria, destroying everything called South African army as we colonize you

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Long post

Nothing that related specifically to the Makopa

10km range

milimeter band radar + datalink

Dead T80

Dont come talk to us about mythical SAM systems

agaugust:


Nope, we signed agreement and South Africa too signed agreement according to your own source.

If ours is an MOU, then yours is an MOU too
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Ours is a contract:

Price

Quantity of reactors

Time-frame

Does yours have any of those things?

No!

agaugust:

FAIL !!

Mokopa missiles does NOT have any mmW and IIR, they are hopeful upgrades NEVER done, according to your own source. The two technologies are American inventions NOT South African.....you are a thief

Even America has problem with mmW and has been slated for ban because it causes skin harming radiation and is viewed as 'chemical/biological weapon.' Anyway, South Africa does not have it, and it is NOT fitted on any Mokopa missile.

First, I never said the seekers are a South African invention - so that is irrelevant
Second, mmW is not banned (they are talking about something completely different you illiterate buffoon)
Third, we do have it and it is fitted - burden of proof is on you to show that we do not

agaugust:


"Millimetre-wave systems can only operate at distances of a few kilometres and so can only be used for short range missiles or when the missile is almost at its target to give precision aiming."

http://www.vision4thefuture.org/s4_resources/3_military.htm

Listed range for the Mokopa is 10km

Facts are facts. Not all seekers are the same.

agaugust:

Also, the mmW is very short millimeter waves meaning thee user has to be very close to the target, then T-84 super tank of Nigeria has remote control anti-aircraft gun guided by sensors, rangefinders, and optics, it automatically fires on enemy aircraft, and any Rooivalk that comes close will be sh.ot down immediately !

10km is not very close at all

agaugust:


Then your Rooivalk risks to comes close to our T-84 tank ? Nigerian army air defenses are there with newly arrived and currently in-service shilka AAA, Type 90 AAA, and Roland SAM.....ALL South African Rooivalk heicopters will be eaten up by Nigerian Roland missiles....and you no helicopter gunships anymore...$40 million x 10 = $400 million wasted in 5 minutes

Even if you fly Hawk jets, we will sh.oot them all down ! Nigeria too has an air force so come and taste out PL-9C air to air missiles !

1. SPAAG like the Shilka is obsolete
2. Type 90 AAA is not mobile enough to keep up with mobile formations, not to mention yours is neither new nor modern
3. Rooivalk can engage the Rolands from 10km out and then come in close if need be.
4. Your 3 airworthy J-7's will be mincemeat - what are 18 Gripens going do be doing? (Apart from dropping JDAM's)

10 Rooivalk = 160 dead T80's

agaugust:

We drive T-84 Oplots unstoppable from Cape Town to Pretoria, destroying everything called South African army as we colonize you

Maybe you should first get some T-80's and then we can have this debate.

Your mythical arsenal is just that... a myth

andrewza:

We only need about 24 or 2 squdrons, we have half our needs.

How is 10 Half-french helicopters equal to half of 24?

You don't have Half of your needs. Your military, especially your airforce is grossly under-equipped.

Patchesagain:

- runs out of argument
- starts on about racism

Stay off topic bro

When I state the facts, you accuse me of racism. When the argument suit your line of thought, you're okay.

Henry120:

How is 10 Half-french helicopters equal to half of 24?

You don't have Half of your needs. Your military, especially your airforce is grossly under-equipped.

lol, if our air-force is under-equipped what does that say about yours!!?!?!

And remeber - maybe half french, but also half-south african (in comparison to your 100% [obsolete] Russian helicopters )

Henry120:

When I state the facts, you accuse me of racism. When the argument suit your line of thought, you're okay.

And how is race ever relevant to any debate other than a debate specifically about race?

Curb your analdevistation and stay on topic

andrewza:

show the proof, just because thre is a pic of ONE tank that looks like some tank does not mean it is in servers. You Nigerians are for ever claiming you bought this and that yet when we see what your solders use in battle, we see none of it. You claimed T72s with zero proof and now you claiming to buy tanks from Ukraine a country in a full blown civil war as enough spare new production tanks to sell? Once again I need proof.

Nigeria had signed a long standing contract with ukraine for the delivery of T-84M tanks. There hve been tank crews training in the ukraine on the system, even before the Ukraine crisis began.

Nigerians do not claim. I provided prove on a Czech republic newspaper which clearly stated nigeria, Algeria and India are to take delivery of T-72's from cezch surplus stock.

There is no proof nigeria received or use the following,
****Fighter jets( although we haven't yet seen these)
Streit MK III
MRAPs
MI-35M helicopters
T-84 Oplot
Gulma Etc etc, however, we've seen photos of nigerian troops and pilots operating these systems.

patches689:

And how is race ever relevant to any debate other than a debate specifically about race?

Curb your analdevistation and stay on topic

It is okay when other south-africans go on about race, yet somehow, it is distasteful when i/we reply in same manner.

How hypocritical

patches689:

lol, if our air-force is under-equipped what does that say about yours!!?!?!

And remeber - maybe half french, but also half-south african (in comparison to your 100% [obsolete] Russian helicopters )

Our Airforce constantly sees combat and is by no means under-equipped. We instead have decided to grow our fleet with 40 new helicopters.

19 previously ordered
21 remaining in 2015.

The MI-35M is one of the world's most advanced and sophisticated attack helicopter, and is miles ahead your half-french helicopter.

Henry120:

Nigeria had signed a long standing contract with ukraine for the delivery of T-84M tanks. There hve been tank crews training in the ukraine on the system, even before the Ukraine crisis began.

Nigerians do not claim. I provided prove on a Czech republic newspaper which clearly stated nigeria, Algeria and India are to take delivery of T-72's from cezch surplus stock.

There is no proof nigeria received or use the following,

Streit MK III
MI-35M helicopters
T-84 Oplot
Gulma Etc etc, however, we've seen photos of nigerian troops and pilots operating these systems.

Nope

You have no T-84's

Mi-35M's may not be 35M's

Limited number of donated MRAP's may not be deemed as worthy of reporting on

Ect Etc

Facts are that you have no T-72's and no T-80s

Henry120:
The MI-35M is one of the world's most advanced and sophisticated attack helicopter, and is miles ahead your half-french helicopter.

I am not going to answer this call

Henry120:

Our Airforce constantly sees combat and is by no means under-equipped. We instead have decided to grow our fleet with 40 new helicopters.

19 previously ordered
21 remaining in 2015.
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In comparison to the size of your military you are well under-equipped

Henry120:

It is okay when other south-africans go on about race, yet somehow, it is distasteful when i/we reply in same manner.

How hypocritical

And we go on about race where exactly? Feel free to point it out.

patches689:

Nope

You have no T-84's

Mi-35M's may not be 35M's

Limited number of donated MRAP's may not be deemed as worthy of reporting on

Ect Etc

Facts are that you have no T-72's and no T-80s

Oga, go and read that link Augustine has been posting.

MRAPs, MI-35M's, MI-17 terminator1SH and lots more. The essence is we haven't seen even a tweet from DHQ to support these facts despite having seen multiple sources to support them.


The only facts we know are there are no Data links in SANDF. The only operational Data Links we've seen in SSA have all come from the nigerian military.

patches689:

I am not going to answer this call

Mumu.

It's obviously the fact.

patches689:

And we go on about race where exactly? Feel free to point it out.

Go back the previous pages.

patches689:

And we go on about race where exactly? Feel free to point it out.

Go back the previous pages. The likes of Craig, greenandgold, troop101 are what exactly?

Or you're suffering from selective amnesia?

patches689:

In comparison to the size of your military you are well under-equipped

In comparison to your landmass, your are poorly equipped. 10 helicopters for your land mass..... Lol

Henry120:

Oga, go and read that link Augustine has been posting.

MRAPs, MI-35M's, MI-17 terminator1SH and lots more. The essence is we haven't seen even a tweet from DHQ to support these facts despite having seen multiple sources to support them.


The only facts we know are there are no Data links in SANDF. The only operational Data Links we've seen in SSA have all come from the nigerian military.

The link augubgugugg has been posting is:

1. Not from a trusted site'
2. Inconclusive - what is the purpose of the shipment? Evaluation? Arms Expo?
3. Implies that the shipment has been halted

With regards to the data-link, the proof has been posted many times, as well as clear instances of its use.

You have yet to provide any-proof of a Nigerian military wide data-link

Look guy, if you want to keep slamming your head against a wall and denying the facts, that is fine with me. I can keep posting the sources over and over

Henry120:

Go back the previous pages. The likes of Craig, greenandgold, troop101 are what exactly?

Or you're suffering from selective amnesia?

give examples. Do you not understand the meaning of "point it out"

agaugust:


Nope, we signed agreement and South Africa too signed agreement according to your own source.

If ours is an MOU, then yours is an MOU too
.

LOL

patches689:

give examples. Do you not understand the meaning of "point it out"

It is now clear you're suffering from amnesia.

Henry120:

In comparison to your landmass, your are poorly equipped. 10 helicopters for your land mass..... Lol

And what is the population density of our landmass? Are we evenly distributed across it?

We have a higher ratio of helicopters to troops than you do.

Same applies to IFV's, Armor, MRAP's and strike-aircraft

10 Rooivalk have been purchased as we only need 10 for escort duties with Air-mobile units, or as hunter-killer/recon for Mechanised and Armor units

It only took 2 to defeat the M23 and a number of other Rebel groups

24 is what we will need for the planned expansion of the SANDF to 170 000 men under the NDR

Henry120:

It is now clear you're suffering from amnesia.

Its clear you have nothing to point out and have instead decided to resort to infantile arguments