mzilakazi:



It is very difficult to speak military language with people who are not directly involved. ARHLAC will be a crap only when any country procure it for much bigger task than it would do. You cannot procure ARHLAC or scorpion jets to be utilised as heavy duty attack fighters like what Nigeria want to do because of financial constraints. Hope it makes sense.

MikeCZAR:
The AHRLAC will out sale the scorpion.

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the federal government have confirmed plans to lauch nigeria's first ever indigenous defence satellite into space by year 2018.this is said to be one of the boisterous achievements of the nigerian military space programme and national space research institute.

Henry120:


Not even in your dreams.

MikeCZAR:
AHRLAC will out sale the Scorpion.

Henry120:


Fantastic news.

Henry120:


Whose going to buy that crap?

You............ don't be delusional.

Henry120:

Fantastic news.

MikeCZAR:
The AHRLAC will out sale the Scorpion.

If you're saying its crap why don't tell us why?

Henry120:


Is it an ISTAR platform? For how long can it loiter?

Looking through my Armoured vehicle or hilux window also means i'm conducting surveillance, anyone can conduct surveillance, but which is a dedicated ELINT compliant surveillance platform?

Henry120:


Nigeria spends 7 billion dollars on defence, we recently placed and other for over 40 attack and transport helicopters, additional T-84OPLOT M, T-72 and hundreds of additional Armoured vehicles.

The Scorpion, super-tucano are all COIN based/ LICW jets. The appropriate jets to fly for the sort of conflicts we are currently engaged in.

7 billion dollars is well above your defence budget.

Besides, that Arhlac is a piece of tin-pot crap. No military needs that thing. It would surely be a monumental failure, no one's going to buy that crap.

Henry120:


Whose going to buy that crap?

You............ don't be delusional.

patches689:


There is a reason that after the British stopped using them in 1994 - its an obsolete concept

And it has a 76mm gun

Patchesagain:


Where is loitering become a major stipulation?

Patchesagain:


Poor countries like Nigeria.

Henry120:


I'm telling you it's crap, because it is a piece of crap metal excuse for a plane. Nobody would buy that thing, this is a fact.

The Scorpion out-classes it in every department.


Nigeria eyeing the Textron Scorpion ISR/ light attack jet.

"The Scorpion is an American light attack and Intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) jet aircraft.[1] The aircraft is being developed by Textron AirLand, LLC, a joint venture between Textron and AirLand Enterprises, LLC."

It's in the same class as the L-39ZA, Alpha Jet, MB- 339.


Crew: 2
Length: 43 ft 6 in (13.26 m)
Wingspan: 47 ft 4 in (14.43 m)
Height: 14 ft (4.3 m)
Empty weight: 11,800 lb (5,352 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 21,250 lb (9,639 kg)
Fuel capacity: 6,000 lb (2,722 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Honeywell TFE731 Turbofan, 4,000 lbf (18 kN) thrust each
Performance

Maximum speed: 450 kn (518 mph; 833 km/h)
Ferry range: 2,400 nmi (2,800 mi; 4,400 km)
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (14,000 m)
Stall speed: less than 95 knots[41]
Armament

Hardpoints: 6 with a capacity of 6,200 lb (2,800 kg),[21] and an internal bay with a 3,000 lb (1,400 kg)[20] of armaments and other stores,
Bombs: precision and non-precision munitions


My take:

I've consistently argued that, although 4 Gen. Multi-role fighters are a fantastic asset to have, the Nigerian Airforce does not currently require a them. 4th Gen fighters cannot provide CAS, they are too fast, expensive to run for the sort of conflict we are currently engaged in, expensive to maintain and are in this sort of conflict a disposable asset.


The scorpion is a 4 Gen. Light attack/ ISR/ trainer aircraft is better suited for our current operational needs.

It has more modern sensors, targeting system an impressive ISR capability, than say the SU-25, although not as protected. The plane can loiter at 15,000 feet, higher than enemy AAA.

At $20 million dollars, it isn't cheap, but it's operational costs are significantly lower than that of other more traditional 4 Gen. Multi-role fighters in the market.



The array of precision guided munitions available to the Scorpion is also quite impressive. It can carry, hell-fire anti-armour missiles, paveway LGB's, SDB 1 and 2, JDAMS, MK 81/MK 82 iron bombs, G-CLAW, Zuni and hydra 70mm rockets.

agaugust:


Bwhahahaha

Nigerian army has domestically upgraded our Scorpion tanks to 90mm gun, done in Bauchi City factory Nigeria circa year 2012.

You thought Nigeria cannot upgrade heavy calibre guns? LOL, Nigeria is silently more advanced than South Africans ever imagine. LOL !

We even changed the whole engine from diesel to petrol to increase speed, the interior is also changed, Nigerian Scorpion tanks are NOT the old 1994 British scorpion tanks anymore, we have done local home grown massive upgrade. LOL !

Nigeria locally upgrades heavy guns to higher calibre with longer range, you didn't know that, Domingo Block-Head

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Henry120:


Did you not claim it was an ISTAR platform?

Patchesagain:


O look more imaginary figures and more imaginary acquisitions.

AHRLAC is developed by Paramount, one of the most successful arms manufacturers in the the world. Sales will be just fine.

Henry120:


Nigeria is richer than South-Africa with a much bigger defence budget. , neither do we need that piece of crap.

Henry120:


I'm telling you it's crap, because it is a piece of crap metal excuse for a plane. Nobody would buy that thing, this is a fact.

The Scorpion out-classes it in every department.

Patchesagain:


Its not a claim. Its a fact.

Henry120:


We don't do imaginary in Nigeria.

Sales would be zero. The only successful Paramount product is their Marauder range MRAP.

Nothing else.

In your horrible night-mares, they are one of the most bla bla bla.

Henry120:
it is a claim.

Like a stated metaphorically, anyone with a pair or even a single eye can conduct surveillance.

Question is, which is a truly surveillance platform?

Patchesagain:


Nigeria
revenues: $23.85 billion
expenditures: $31.51 billion (2013 est.)


South Africa
revenues: $88.53 billion
expenditures: $105.5 billion (2013 est.)
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2056.html

You are not even half as wealthy as we are.

Patchesagain:


Where is loitering become a major stipulation?

Patchesagain:


Did NATO not deploy it as an ISTAR platform in Libya?

Henry120:


Nigeria is richer than South-Africa with a much bigger defence budget. , neither do we need that piece of crap.

Henry120:


Still posting this piece of crap?

I thought you've consistently claimed 49.8 billion dollars went missing in Nigeria over an 8 months period?

So, how does it seem your slow motion brain keeps reverting to this source?

Henry120:


Still posting this piece of crap?

I thought you've consistently claimed 49.8 billion dollars went missing in Nigeria over an 8 months period?

So, how does it seem your slow motion brain keeps reverting to this source?

Henry120:


NO, they did not. They had the Hawk-eye and related platforms doing recon.

Patchesagain:


Yes you do, here is a list of imaginary

- Tucano's
- SU-30's
- Missile Armed OPV's
- T-72
- T-80
- BMP-2
- FH77 B05 L52
- Ceasar SPG

The Marauder is their only successful product?

And you have forgotten about the Mbombe
http://www.armyrecognition.com/may_2014_global_defense_security_news_uk/jordan_armed_forces_to_sign_a_contract_for_production_of_50_mbombe_armoured_fighting_vehicles_080514.html