ActivateKruger:


In your not-so-bright head, there were jets before Mandela.

agaugust:


Okay, no wonder South Africa cannot defeat Seleka and Rhino poachers, your military can only fight against nations like the one you lost to Cuban girl soldiers
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patches689:


You said Military website is the only valid information.

SANDF website lists Ratel ZT3 as the only class of Ratel.

You have used outside sources to say that we have more classes.

Thus, you yourself confirm that the SANDF website is not the final say and that other sources must be considered.

Thank you

mzilakazi:


It shows that you didn't read the sources. Those houses were destroyed by straying bombs which fell from your fighter jets. The only mode of munition that your fighters can engage other than cannons. No PGMs and missiles, nothing.

agaugust:

The journalists that wrote the stories, where were they when the so called 'NAF bombs' were falling astray from the sky? The journalists were in the bombed zone checking out one by one which falling bomb will miss Boko Haram and land on civilians, and also the journalists were busy driving around during the battle taking records of which house was bombed by jet and watching to differentiate which house is being h.it by RPG, mortar artillery, and shells ? Right ? Yet those journalists inside those destroyed streets are still alive to write stories, right ?.Do you know what a battle zone is like when jets are dropping bombs and soldiers are launching RPG and firing artillery all at the same time? How old are you? 6 years? How developed is your brain? Sardine Fish level?
I thought you said you are one of the SANDF men that fought Seleka, so you too was so free and comfortable like a god in the battlefied of Bangui and you took photos of the damage

patches689:


Post your 330km range

Why are you scared?

patches689:


BMP-2 you said that it had all round protection against 23mm... you have been exposed.

patches689:


cool, but the Hawk is not our primary combat platform.

Your F-7 is a copy of the Fishbed with *some* advanced electronics crammed inside of it.

The airframe is still a 40+ year design.

#Obsolete

patches689:


Badger is immune to RPG

patches689:


Laser Designation.

Does your ATR have it?

No?

Ok.

patches689:


Also known as Olifant food

agaugust:


I just posted proof this morning that NAF ATR-42 has been doing ISTAR role perfectly against Boko Haram that hides among civilians in cities and without uniform or order of battle to identify them.

You sit down with a laptop to judge on internet how ATR-42 does ISTAR ops in land combat theatres, how will you know since the whole nation of South Africa has NEVER touched anything close to a NAF ATR-42 ultra-sophisticated aircraft in your entire national history.

NAF air Marshalls that owns and use the aircraft are final and best world recognised authority on ATR-42 capabilities in real life situations, even the Europeans that produced it are now inferior to NAF in user experience, so when NAF is talking about practicals, SANDF has to shutt up and listen !

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agaugust:


Yet South Africa is spending millions to build the inferior AHRLAC aircraft for the same role as Scorpion. Mumu

Anything South Africa does not have is bad. Mumu squared
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EVarn:
it has a stabilized gun it has a new fire control system,do not mistake the Mk1 for the Mk3,i know that you do not know the difference,but sometimes it pays not to embarass oneself due to ignorance it has the combination bulkhead armor{the chobham armor combination of steel,ceramic and aluminium},moreover,a few rounds the vicker ammo will pulverize your cherished toys it has been fitted with an effective range finder,NANOQUEST L23 gunner's sight and simrad LV352 laser rangefinder mumu!,your olifant also operates:
*105mm rifle - same as the vicker
*68 round of ammunition{maxim.}- 18 rounds more than the vicker
*350km range- lower range to the vicker

agaugust:


Scorpion jet is modern man 2014. Gripen is old man 1988.

agaugust:


Stop trying to spread lies here!

SANDF is final authority by all different methods they use to give information to the public, website, video, photos, newspaper publications, Tv shows, whatever method the army uses to speak through it's officers about equipment in service it's okay.

The Indian army Bofors FH-77B 42km range official information is NOT on Indian army website, its a youtube video released by the same army. If information is not available on SANDF websites we will check photos videos and news reports officially released by SANDF.

Yes, so many dozens of official army photos of SANDF shows the whole world the several different versions of Ratel with guns and cannon to prove that the army has them all and NOT only ZT-3 missile version.

Now show me SANDF official photo or news report / media press release to prove they have V-LAP shell with 73km range.....there is NONE !!!

Butt Hurt Soweto Durango, SANDF best artilley shell range is ONLY 39km, CONFIRMED !

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agaugust:
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Nope, I have told you from beginning that I am very confident of my source, it's in the archives of this thread many times repeated. You Patrick of Gauteng province you are afraid that I will h.um.iliate you big time !!!

All I am waiting for is for you to be a man of courage and don't disgrace South Africa, prove to us you are intelligent enough to do a simple 10 minute google search on ATR-42 radar range, and post your own result as I have done many times between January 2013 and April 2014 on this forum, I have proved myself, now it's up to you to prove that South Africans have a brain that can find information and prove a Nigerian to be wrong.

Oya naa let's go...Oya dey go....go Patrick, go Patrick, go Patrick go Patrick....we are waiting for you to google search ATR-42 radar range, the whole of South Africa is cheering you...go Patrick, go Patrick !!!

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agaugust:


Expose me by quoting where I said all round .

Even heavy battle tanks don't have same millilitres protection all round, talk less of ordinary IFV.

I said 33mm protection same thing said by army recognition and I posted the photo screenshot and weblink.

You are a liar and you are looking for who to call your own very name that has become your indellible logo and trademark on nairaland....Pirate Patrick @Patches the liar of Gauteng
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agaugust:


Nope, the airframes are different, F-7 has new swept wing for dogfight, MiG Fishbed has old delta wing. F-7 has rear fuselage stabilizer fins for maneuverability, MiG has none. F-7 has new Broadview canopy for situational awareness MiG has old caged canopy. So the airframes look alike but NAF F-7NI is different.

The names are different, one is F-7 Airguard, the other is MiG-21. However for SAAF the names are the same, Hawk jet 1974, Hawk jet 2006, you fly obsolete aircraft.

Sure Naijas have taught you a lesson. If you live in a glass house don't throw stones
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agaugust:


Proof needed.

You walking into another trap again.

agaugust:


Fool !

The TA in ISTAR is Target Acquisition NOT Target Designation, Fool !

ISTAR aircraft don't need laser designator in pure ISTAR role because ISTAR is to find and track targets, not to attack. If you add laser designator you have entered attack role by illuminating a target with laser beam and your ISTAR aircraft is exposed to ground enemy counter attack.

Target acquisition is just to find and keep track of target and relay it's position to the attacking platforms.

ATR-42 does exactly that and that makes it an ISTAR aircraft, reason why NAF uses it to acquire Boko Haram targets for NAF jets to go and k.ill

Real Durango Domingo your are, Olodo Rabata !
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agaugust:


Vickers Mk III and Olifant have never met in battle.

I love those virgin Cuban army girls they eat SADF Olifant as morning breakfast for their T-55
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patches689:


Also known as trash.

The 1960's called, they want their doctrine back

andrewza:


Actualy combat experance has had the BMP pentrated on the frontal arc by 12.7mm fire.

There is a add on armour kit for the ratel that gives the frontal armour protecstion of up to 23mm

Face it the BMP serries is crapp. They get slaught in every war they fight in.

patches689:


Video evidence shows BH capturing it from you.

patches689:


ZSU-23 a threat to the NAF... so what does that say about the NAF?

mzilakazi:



AHRLAC is not what really any military can bargain on given their size and speed. It is simply good for ISR.

EVarn:
it has a stabilized gun it has a new fire control system,do not mistake the Mk1 for the Mk3,i know that you do not know the difference,but sometimes it pays not to embarass oneself due to ignorance it has the combination bulkhead armor{the chobham armor combination of steel,ceramic and aluminium},moreover,a few rounds the vicker ammo will pulverize your cherished toys it has been fitted with an effective range finder,NANOQUEST L23 gunner's sight and simrad LV352 laser rangefinder mumu!,your olifant also operates:
*105mm rifle - same as the vicker
*68 round of ammunition{maxim.}- 18 rounds more than the vicker
*350km range- lower range to the vicker

EVarn:
The NA has just recieve a batch of shilkas,T72,and T80 tanks to fight boko haram terrorist in the north eastern part of nigeria [from an accurate eye-witness source]