Henry120:


We don't do imaginary in Nigeria.

Sales would be zero. The only successful Paramount product is their Marauder range MRAP.

Nothing else.

In your horrible night-mares, they are one of the most bla bla bla.

Ever heard about Aerosud holdings? The company responsible for AHRLAC?

Idi..ot.

mzilakazi:



That's a lie, Nigeria is not richer than SA. it only much bigger GDP meaning they have a much better purchasing power than SA because of their bigger population. Nigeria defence budget has only became better this year now that the country is deeply plunged into insurgency.

Nigeria with a bigger army and a full blown war has only now *sort of* matched SANDF spending.

Think about that for a second.

#LowQuality

mzilakazi:



That's a fact. CIA, wikipedia and world bank cant intentionally tell lies.

So how come you claim 49.8 billion dollars is missing?

Henry120:


There was consistent prove to validate all of them. Aircrafts coming into Nigeria for evaluation purposes, nothing odd about that.

BMP-2, confirmed
T-72, confirmed
T-84 OPLOT confirmed.

None of the above have been confirmed by any reputable sources.

Its all just rumors and empty dreams... just like the Tucano

Henry120:


So how come you claim 49.8 billion dollars is missing?

$20 Billion

Patchesagain:


Is it impossible for a country to build up reserves of capital?

Is it impossible for the $20 Billion to be a cumulative total stolen?

Is it impossible for the $20 Billion to missing in transit between company profits and taxes?

Clown.

You bloody 1diot

49.8 billion dollars been money un-remitted in an 8 months period.

Stop deluding yourself.

Henry120:


There was consistent prove to validate all of them. Aircrafts coming into Nigeria for evaluation purposes, nothing odd about that.

BMP-2, confirmed
T-72, confirmed
T-84 OPLOT confirmed.

Can you please attach a proof or else I will also make a claim that SA ordered aircraft carrier.

mzilakazi:



Can you please attach a proof or else I will also make a claim that SA ordered aircraft carrier.

It doesn't matter. Fact is Nigeria doesn't claim.

Henry120:


You bloody 1diot

49.8 billion dollars been money un-remitted in an 8 months period.

Stop deluding yourself.

Mr Sanusi was suspended last month after he told a senate committee that the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) had failed to account for $20bn of the $67bn of oil sold between January 2012 and July 2013.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26553388

You try argue with us, yet you dont even know the facts of the situation?

What a joke you are.

Patchesagain:


Chally 2 was penetrated by an RPG-29, so not any old RPG

and it was a fluke penetration caused by a hit to the underside of the vehical which caused the reactive armor to detonate.

Pocket your lame excuses.

Armoured vehicles don't dictate to an enemy the type of RPG the enemy will use against them.

Leave BMP-2 alone, it is a good IFV with modern versions that have extra new armour thicker than the older early versions.

Algerian army BMP-2M is a good example of new BMP-2 with new increased armour.

British super heavy armoured Challenger main battle tank was penetrated by an RPG, simple. Case closed
.

Patchesagain:


None of the above have been confirmed by any reputable sources.

Its all just rumors and empty dreams... just like the Tucano

Neither can you provide a single source that claims NAF has started taking deliveries of MI-35M hind E helicopters?

Neither is there a single source that says N.A has received an X amount of CS/VP3 MRAPS from China, but again we have.

Henry120:


You bloody 1diot

49.8 billion dollars been money un-remitted in an 8 months period.

Stop deluding yourself.

Your claim is defamatory and impossible. Even in American rich treasury, nobody can ever be able to steal that money.

Henry120:


It doesn't matter. Fact is Nigeria doesn't claim.

- Tucano = Claim
- T-72 = Claim
- Missile Armed OPV = Claim
- T-80 = Claim
- Ceasar SPG = Claim
- FH77 B05 L52 = Claim
- Su30 = Claim

Its in your blood, your government manipulates your feeble minds with tabloid pronunciations about mythical acquisitions.

Henry120:


I'm telling you it's crap, because it is a piece of crap metal excuse for a plane. Nobody would buy that thing, this is a fact.

The Scorpion out-classes it in every department.


Nigeria eyeing the Textron Scorpion ISR/ light attack jet.

"The Scorpion is an American light attack and Intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) jet aircraft.[1] The aircraft is being developed by Textron AirLand, LLC, a joint venture between Textron and AirLand Enterprises, LLC."

It's in the same class as the L-39ZA, Alpha Jet, MB- 339.


Crew: 2
Length: 43 ft 6 in (13.26 m)
Wingspan: 47 ft 4 in (14.43 m)
Height: 14 ft (4.3 m)
Empty weight: 11,800 lb (5,352 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 21,250 lb (9,639 kg)
Fuel capacity: 6,000 lb (2,722 kg)
Powerplant: 2 × Honeywell TFE731 Turbofan, 4,000 lbf (18 kN) thrust each
Performance

Maximum speed: 450 kn (518 mph; 833 km/h)
Ferry range: 2,400 nmi (2,800 mi; 4,400 km)
Service ceiling: 45,000 ft (14,000 m)
Stall speed: less than 95 knots[41]
Armament

Hardpoints: 6 with a capacity of 6,200 lb (2,800 kg),[21] and an internal bay with a 3,000 lb (1,400 kg)[20] of armaments and other stores,
Bombs: precision and non-precision munitions


My take:

I've consistently argued that, although 4 Gen. Multi-role fighters are a fantastic asset to have, the Nigerian Airforce does not currently require a them. 4th Gen fighters cannot provide CAS, they are too fast, expensive to run for the sort of conflict we are currently engaged in, expensive to maintain and are in this sort of conflict a disposable asset.


The scorpion is a 4 Gen. Light attack/ ISR/ trainer aircraft is better suited for our current operational needs.

It has more modern sensors, targeting system an impressive ISR capability, than say the SU-25, although not as protected. The plane can loiter at 15,000 feet, higher than enemy AAA.

At $20 million dollars, it isn't cheap, but it's operational costs are significantly lower than that of other more traditional 4 Gen. Multi-role fighters in the market.



The array of precision guided munitions available to the Scorpion is also quite impressive. It can carry, hell-fire anti-armour missiles, paveway LGB's, SDB 1 and 2, JDAMS, MK 81/MK 82 iron bombs, G-CLAW, Zuni and hydra 70mm rockets.

Are you telling us why?

When it comes too weapons. Know prototype aircraft for marketing or PR reasons will be represented as carrying a wide range of weapons.

Look at what it is said the JF-17 will carry, also look at the weapons it was said the Gripen will carry.

agaugust:


Pocket your lame excuses.

Armoured vehicles don't dictate to an enemy the type of RPG the enemy will use against them.

Leave BMP-2 alone, it is a good IFV with modern versions that have extra new armour thicker than the older early versions.

Algerian army BMP-2M is a good example of new BMP-2 with new increased armour.

British super heavy armoured Challenger main battle tank was penetrated by an RPG, simple. Case closed
.

No, the Chally was penetrated by its own reactive armor. Caused by a one in a million shot. Fired by the most advanced RPG there is. And all that happened is that the driver lost a toe. Again, you are talking about something you know nothing about.

Meanwhile, when a BMP-2 gets hit by an old RPG-7


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0250U-2XCc



And yes, it is safe to say that not many rebel groups in the world have acess to top-of-the-line Russian RPG's

Henry120:


Neither can you provide a single source that claims NAF has started taking deliveries of MI-35M hind E helicopters?

Neither is there a single source that says N.A has received an X amount of CS/VP3 MRAPS from China, but again we have.

Yes, but you can provide pictoral evidence of them in Nigeria

Where are your pictures of BMP-2's, T-80's, Tucanos, SU30's, FH77 B05 L52's, CEASAR guns?

Huh?

Patchesagain:


Mr Sanusi was suspended last month after he told a senate committee that the Nigeria National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) had failed to account for $20bn of the $67bn of oil sold between January 2012 and July 2013.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26553388

You try argue with us, yet you dont even know the facts of the situation?

What a joke you are.

I try to argue with you guys, but you've always consistently shown to be a bunch of pea brain size dimwits.


and irresponsible stewardship of its resources. Nigerians are still waiting for the report of the probe into the 48.9 billion dollars NNPC funds. In the meantime, delegates at the Nationa

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/164572-rivers-government-explains-world-bank-loan-blasts-pdp.html

Patchesagain:


Yes, but you can provide pictoral evidence of them in Nigeria

Where are your pictures of BMP-2's, T-80's, Tucanos, SU30's, FH77 B05 L52's, CEASAR guns?

Huh?

No, this is in-correct.

They do not exist anywhere in Nigeria.

@Henry-SA has more than $3trillion of mineral reserves in today's money more than what Nigerias 39 bn barrels of oil in reserve can make. SA is the world richest country in mineral reserves, the world's number one. That makes SA many a times richer than Nigeria.

MikeCZAR:
Are you telling us why?

When it comes too weapons. Know prototype aircraft for marketing or PR reasons will be represented as carrying a wide range of weapons.

Look at what it is said the JF-17 will carry, also look at the weapons it was said the Gripen will carry.

This sh*t you typed above is rubbish.

Patchesagain:


Been posted many times

BH has a staggering array of your equipment

Your photo is NOT a shilka as you claimed, and it is a photo not a video as you claimed.

#Show us video of Boko CAPTURING a Nigerian army Shilka ZSU-23 as you claimed !

.

mzilakazi:



My frendo, as current kornet is still only integrated from BMP-3 up to later models. Your BMP-2 will not fire Kornet until it will be decommissioned when it tells its life story. I guess, your Nigerian girlfriend is now mine.

For the second time, I prove you VERY WRONG mister Olodo

"
Now I have no choice than to snatch away your girlfriend, she's tired of the lies you tell and the garbage you write.

"■ The version BMP-2M "Berezhok" from KBP has an additional AG-30 grenade launcher, 2+2 launchers for ATGM 9M133 "Kornet" missile and new day/night sights as found on the BMD-4. This upgrade was selected by Algeria." Source wiki"

.

Henry120:


I try to argue with you guys, but you've always consistently shown to be a bunch of pea brain size dimwits.


and irresponsible stewardship of its resources. Nigerians are still waiting for the report of the probe into the 48.9 billion dollars NNPC funds. In the meantime, delegates at the Nationa

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/164572-rivers-government-explains-world-bank-loan-blasts-pdp.html

So now the $20 Billion has grown to 40?

Not making yourself look any better here

MikeCZAR:
Ever heard about Aerosud holdings? The company responsible for AHRLAC?

Idi..ot.

Like i've stated previously, that Ahralc, or what ever it is called is going to be a massive failure in the market.

The Scorpion hasn't yet been completed, but orders are already pouring in.

Don't be delusional, probably, your park services can buy 2 units, but that's it.

agaugust:


Your photo is NOT a shilka as you claimed, and it is a photo not a video as you claimed.

#Show us video of Boko CAPTURING a Nigerian army Shilka ZSU-23 as you claimed !

.

When you post your ATR-42 radar range

Henry120:


Like i've stated previously, that Ahralc, or what ever it is called is going to be a massive failure in the market.

The Scorpion hasn't yet been completed, but orders are already pouring in.

Don't be delusional, probably, your park services can buy 2 units, but that's it.

So Nigeria begging for 12 constitutes "orders pouring in"?

Lel, show us a Paramount product that has failed.

Patchesagain:


Yes, in 1973 it was very effective

In 1973

What year is it now?

Grips will by high and dry dropping precision munitions from 30 000 in complete safety

SAAF Gripens CANNOT harm a ZSU-23-4 shilka, it will radar scan and track your slow speed 85km/hr guided bomb PGM and destroy everything with volley of AAA four barrel fire, the SAAF Gripens will waste all your 50 units of snail slow speed Paveway guided bombs until you have nothing left.

Then you will know why NATO is afraid of Shilka AAA. Mumu
.

Patchesagain:


So now the $20 Billion has grown to 40?

Not making yourself look any better here

If 48.9 billion dollars can go missing, how much does the Nation actually earn?

Gripen flying at Mach 2 isn't an ISTAR platform. You still don't know what an true surveillance plane is?

Any asset can carry out surveillance, looking through the window of my car is actually surveillance.

agaugust:


SAAF Gripens CANNOT harm a ZSU-23-4 shilka, it will radar scan and track your slow speed 85km/hr guided bomb PGM and destroy everything with volley of AAA four barrel fire, the SAAF Gripens will waste all your 50 units of snail slow speed Paveway guided bombs until you have nothing left.

Then you will know why NATO is afraid of Shilka AAA. Mumu
.

NATO was afraid of the Shilka in the 1970's

How many JDAM's did the Shilka stop in Iraq (twice) or Yugoslavia or Libya?

Clown, CRAM ammunition was invented specifically to engage such bombs... and you think an old Shilka can do it?

Shilka is not a threat to the Gripen, Shilka is not a threat to anything modern except attack helicopters.

Patchesagain:


So Nigeria begging for 12 constitutes "orders pouring in"?

Lel, show us a Paramount product that has failed.

So you mean they actually now have a firm order for 12 units, wow that's fantastic for a company which hasn't operationally launched it's Fighter jet.

Henry120:


If 48.9 billion dollars can go missing, how much does the Nation actually earn?

Gripen flying at Mach 2 isn't an ISTAR platform. You still don't know what an true surveillance plane is?

Any asset can carry out surveillance, looking through the window of my car is actually surveillance.

Stop wasting my time.

NATO used it as ISTAR in Libya, to complete 37% of missions... despite NATO having access to multiple dedicated ISTAR platforms.

Gripen is the best, simple

Henry120:


Like i've stated previously, that Ahralc, or what ever it is called is going to be a massive failure in the market.

The Scorpion hasn't yet been completed, but orders are already pouring in.

Don't be delusional, probably, your park services can buy 2 units, but that's it.

The SA company refused to take orders. The AHRLAC isn't completed too.

Remember that deal which was signed with Boeing?

The AHRLAC will out sale the Scorpion, as it offers capabilities similar to the Super Tucano.