Patchesagain:


He is not our "king"

He is a king

Foreigners and their spaza shops contribute nothing to the society and are infact a drain on the economy as they send money to their home countries and their profits are not taxed.

True the problem is that most of their goods are sent in illegally and tax free, and their businesses aren't registered so they don't pay tax like other South Africans, and that's my only problem with all those Businesses.

But its a good thing the government is working on tackling that issue right now.

Patchesagain:


who is Sharlize Theron?

who is Shartlo Copley?

Brah, this South African movie trailer has more effects than the whole of Nollywood together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYCX65UwLls

who is Tracy Ifeachor?
who is Annie Ilonzie?
who is Ashley Madekwe?
These are hollywood movie actors/actresses of purely Nigerian origin!.
Now:
who is Omotola jalade?
who is Genevieve Nnaji?
These are Nigerian actresses who perform in both hollywood and nollywood movies!.
hehehehe....mr patches,bring me something better.Dont even compare South Africa with Nigeria in terms of movie and paparazzi.

Patchesagain:


[size=20pt]Finally you admit: Universal Camouflage is the way of modern Armies.

SANDF has had a universal cammo since the 1990's - allmost 20 years ahead of Nigeria!!

Hahahaha, I have destroyed you!! [/size]

Please use "Camo" instead

EVarn:
who is Tracy Ifeachor?
who is Annie Ilonzie?
who is Ashley Madekwe?
These are hollywood movie actors/actresses of purely Nigerian origin!.
Now:
who is Omotola jalade?
who is Genevieve Nnaji?
These are Nigerian actresses who perform in both hollywood and nollywood movies!.
hehehehe....mr patches,bring me something better.Dont even compare South Africa with Nigeria in terms of movie and paparazzi.

And yet two South Africans have been in bigger movies, been paid more and won more awards than all of your actors combined.

lel

[size=15pt]Finally SIPRI confirms Nigeria's military spending:

"Nigeria’s budgeted military expenditure fell in 2014 for the third year running, by 9.3 per cent, to $2.3 billion. Nonetheless, the total is still 79 per cent higher than in 2005, and the budgeted figure does not include a $1 billion loan approved by the Nigerian Congress in October 2014 for military hardware and training to fight the militant group Boko Haram. However, it is debatable whether extra funding for the military on its own will prove effective, given the rampant corruption in the Nigerian armed forces and alleged human rights abuses by Nigerian soldiers that have alienated much of the local population. Such factors have severely impeded the fight against Boko Haram so far,” SIRPI noted


SIPRI quotes the SANDF budget at 3,8 billion.

This is still more than Nigeria's even if you count your once off loan

SANDF is half as big as the Nigerian military yet gets allmost twice the budget!!

Lol!! Who is bankrupt now!?!!?[/size]

Patchesagain:


And yet two South Africans have been in bigger movies, been paid more and won more awards than all of your actors combined.
lel

??How do you know that?

SA still has a bigger middle class than most sub saharn states. our black middle class alone is bigger than the whole Nigerian mid class. FACT.

Centrifude:


True the problem is that most of their goods are sent in illegally and tax free, and their businesses aren't registered so they don't pay tax like other South Africans, and that's my only problem with all those Businesses.

But its a good thing the government is working on tackling that issue right now.

The somlian shop in Simmons town uses as goods. All so he pays taxes.

The owner is interesting. He was In Mogadishu during the whole Blackhawk down thing. Got shot then to.

Ervan I DARE U IDIOTIC LIAR. All you can do is claim EMPTY CLAIMS.
This morning I saw your FALSE CLAIM about Nigerian billionaires. Heres FACTS flat head.
SA still has more billionaires than you flat heads, SA still has more DOLLAR MILLIONAIRES than you flat heads. FACT.

http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38900:high-impact-at-rheinmetall-denel-defence-day&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116



One of the world’s largest live-firing demonstrations got underway at the Overberg Test Range earlier this week when Rheinmetall and Denel hosted the second Defence Day, aimed at showcasing Rheinmetall Denel Munition’s capabilities to 400 guests from 57 countries around the world.

The first Defence Day was held at Alkantpan in the Northern Cape. Another Defence Day is scheduled to be held five years from now. For 2015’s edition, held at the Range on April 22 and 23, Rheinmetall and Denel joined forces to display a wide range of weapons and ammunition, from 40 mm grenades to guided bombs.

A wide range of artillery shells was demonstrated, ranging from 105 to 155 mm and in various different types from practice to tracer and illuminating. Shells were fired from nearly 50 kilometres away to land on the Range, and were also fired from the Range at various targets from a self-propelled T5-52 howitzer. This mounts a G5 towed gun on a truck, with the howitzer firing from the rear for an unobstructed arc of fire. It can fire three rounds in under 20 seconds in burst mode.

The artillery shells fired contained various different payloads such as illumination, screening smoke, high explosive, High Explosive Pre-Formed Fragmented (HE PFF), infrared illumination and Velocity-Enhanced Extended Range Shells (VLAP), which use rocket and base bleed assistance for ranges in excess of 40 kilometres. The 155 mm Assegaai HE PFF shell, for example, contains 18 000 tungsten pellets that are lethal out to 50 metres. The Assegaai shell features insensitive explosives that will not easily detonate when struck by bullets, for example.

A 76 mm OTO Melara naval gun was brought in and this fired tracers as well as PFF ammunition to disable a simulated anti-ship missile mounted on a pole down the range.

A South African Air Force Hawk was used to demonstrate the Al Tariq glide bomb developed by joint Denel/Tawazun company Tawazun Dynamics. The Hawk flew tens of kilometres out to sea before launching the weapon, which glided in over land to hit its target almost dead on. Other South African Air Force aircraft were involved in the demonstration, namely the Seeker 200 (which demonstrated its surveillance capabilities, such as being able to see a tennis ball on the ground at 5 000 feet), and the Rooivalk, which fired FZ 70 rockets and 20 mm cannon rounds at targets on the range. South Africa was one of the earliest customers for the Belgian FZ 70 rockets and Rheinmetall Denel Munition is the exclusive supplier of its rocket propellant.

The Plofadder minefield breaching system caused a big impact, with two different versions of the system being demonstrated: a backpack portable version and the Plofadder 160AT Mk II trailer-borne version containing 560 kg of insensitive explosive to clear minefields.

Denel Dynamics demonstrated the seven second rocket motor for its Umkhonto air-to-surface missile while a Badger missile variant fired an Ingwe anti-tank missile at a target down the range. The Ingwe has a tandem warhead and can penetrate more than 1 000 mm of rolled homogenous armour. However, for the demonstration an inert warhead was used. The Badger also fired its 30 mm CamGun, developed by Denel Land Systems. A BAE Systems RG35 also had the chance to fire its cannon, at a derelict tank down the range.

Various small and medium calibre weapons were demonstrated, notably Denel Land System’s new LCT turret (7.62 mm SS-77 machinegun) aboard a new generation Casspir and Rippel Effect and Milkor’s grenade launchers (which fired smoke, high explosive and less lethal ammunition). Some of the less lethal ammunition fired by the grenades included multi-bang flash bangs (each grenade contains several explosive charges) and rapidly deploying teargas (multiple pellets in one grenade, which also makes it difficult for people to pick up and throw back the canister). An automatic grenade launcher was also put through its paces. Both low, medium and high velocity ammunition was used.

Various mortars were put through their paces, namely 60, 81 and 120 mm mortar bombs fired from M4, M6, L16 and M5 mortars. Various types of rounds were demonstrated, such as screening smoke, high explosive, illumination etc.

Apart from the weapons, the list of pyrotechnics demonstrated included hand-fired rocket flares, hand grenades (lethal and less lethal), illuminating grenades, smoke grenades and signalling grenades.

Denel Land Systems division Mechem put on a dog show, using its highly trained dogs to detect hidden explosives in a vehicle and drugs on a person. The dogs also demonstrated their attack skills by chasing and bringing down running targets. The dogs are trained to sniff out many different things, such as rhino horn, currency and cellphones in addition to drugs and explosives.

Rheinmetall Denel Munition specialises in the field of ammunition, including design, development and manufacturing, particularly regarding artillery, mortar and infantry systems as well as plant engineering. While Rheinmetall Defence does most of its business with NATO countries, Rheinmetall Denel Munition covers not only the South African market but also Asia, the Middle East and Latin America. RDM’s factories in South Africa are all at 100% capacity and some are even running 24 hours a day to keep pace with demand.

Rheinmetall Denel CEO Norbert Schulze said that RDM makes the most modern ammunition in Africa that is on a par with international manufacturers. For example, RDM displaced a French company in manufacturing the propellant for the FZ 70 rocket. Schulze noted that the company’s turnover was five times that after Rheinmetall took over six years ago. Denel Group CEO Riaz Saloojee also praised the success of RDM, saying that when companies partner with Denel, they partner with South Africa since Denel is 100% state owned and as a result can guarantee long-term relationships.

A large number of other companies were involved in the Defence Day, including Pretoria Metal Pressings (PMP), Denel Land Systems, BAE Systems, Denel Dynamics, Rheinmetall Defence, Denel Aviation, Overberg Test Range, Forges de Zeebrugge, Ripple Effect, Milkor, and Mechem, amongst others.

Andrewza
Why are you allowing Ervan to lie to you guys. This guy has been lying about Boko Haram and other staff like wealth.
Standard bank Africa and world bank even Woolworths exposed their small middle class. Woolies left Nigeria after a month due to POOR INFRASTRUCTURE, FILTHY RETAIL SPACE AND POOR POWER SUPPLY and left for Australia. Where they bought out Australia's biggest retail giant.

Henry120
I DARE U AND YOUR CREW. Ya'll are a bunch of ill informed stooges

am off this thread and will be back to CLEAR LIES. Can you believe Andrew their gossiper Linda Ikeji claims 10 Nigerians were killed during xenophobic attacks. NIGERIANS ARE LIARS BY NATURE.

Iconize
You're another ILL INFORMED FOOL. I DARE U FOLLOW ME ON OTHER THREADS. Where I dish nothing but facts with SOURCES.
I DARE U FLAT HEAD.

Pathetic ... SA has only 1 black billionaire;"patrice motsepe, net worth-$2.1 billion" I can now see why they say black SA are lazy how come out of all your billionaires you claim there is only a first,only and the last black billionaire - www.africaranking.com/richest-people-in-africa/8/

Centrifude:


True the problem is that most of their goods are sent in illegally and tax free, and their businesses aren't registered so they don't pay tax like other South Africans, and that's my only problem with all those Businesses.

But its a good thing the government is working on tackling that issue right now.

just when i thought this dude and patches are enlightened.
i have questions for you two.

1. who do they pay their shop rent to?
2. where do they get their merchandise? (Remember 14% tax)
3. They eat and reside in SA, who gets all the money they spend on these?

you two are dull , i think you guys should go study economics. the truth is, these informal businesses makes up the real sector of your economy and they contribute to your GDP. its not all about eskom, transnet or those businesses you're used to.

Nigeria is a good example, Never underestimate the informal sector of an economy.

Quite disappointed you said the bolded.. smh

kwametut:
am off this thread and will be back to CLEAR LIES. Can you believe Andrew their gossiper Linda Ikeji claims 10 Nigerians were killed during xenophobic attacks. NIGERIANS ARE LIARS BY NATURE.

AGreed but south africans are ;RACIST,MURDERERS AND XENOPHOBIC in nature !

Patchesagain:


Why must it be a black creation?

O yes, because South Africans created:

- District 9. Directed and filmed in South Africa. Gross Profit: $210 million dollars
- Chappie. Directed and filmed in South Africa. Gross Profit: $13 million (opening day alone)


While the top Grossing Nollywood film "30 Days in Atlanta" brought in a total of only $689 447

Truly pathetic.

em..mr patches...there's a difference between a wholly Nigerian Movie, and a movie shot in SA.. you don't have a movie industry mate...
the only hype on those movies is the 'south-african'-canadian director.
we also have a nigerian director 'olasukanmi' that has directed big hollywood movies too.
Also hollywood movies and even TV series were shot in Nigeria as well.
so your point is?

Patchesagain:


Why must it be a black creation?

O yes, because South Africans created:

- District 9. Directed and filmed in South Africa. Gross Profit: $210 million dollars
- Chappie. Directed and filmed in South Africa. Gross Profit: $13 million (opening day alone)


While the top Grossing Nollywood film "30 Days in Atlanta" brought in a total of only $689 447

Truly pathetic.

Patchesagain:


who is Sharlize Theron?

who is Shartlo Copley?

Brah, this South African movie trailer has more effects than the whole of Nollywood together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYCX65UwLls

[size=16pt]The whole world says Nigeria is big master over South Africa in this sector of business and human creativity, please go stick your head inside a bee hive and get stung if you cannot bear this humiliation

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30707#.VTjuSCFViko

.[/size]

Patchesagain:
[size=13pt]Finally SIPRI confirms Nigeria's military spending:

"Nigeria’s budgeted military expenditure fell in 2014 for the third year running, by 9.3 per cent, to $2.3 billion. Nonetheless, the total is still 79 per cent higher than in 2005, and the budgeted figure does not include a $1 billion loan approved by the Nigerian Congress in October 2014 for military hardware and training to fight the militant group Boko Haram. However, it is debatable whether extra funding for the military on its own will prove effective, given the rampant corruption in the Nigerian armed forces and alleged human rights abuses by Nigerian soldiers that have alienated much of the local population. Such factors have severely impeded the fight against Boko Haram so far,” SIRPI noted


SIPRI quotes the SANDF budget at 3,8 billion.

This is still more than Nigeria's even if you count your once off loan

SANDF is half as big as the Nigerian military yet gets allmost twice the budget!!

Lol!! Who is bankrupt now!?!!?[/size]

[size=16pt]

SANDF is the one that is bankrupt.

SIPRI confessed that they do not know all Nigeria's weapons purchases because according to SIPRI, Nigerian military acquisition is largely secretive, so how will they add the value of secret weapons purchases?

I think you have problem with basic logical thinkng.

SIPRI even says they don't know the source of most of Nigeria's T-72 tanks, so they don't even know how many T-72 tanks we have purchased.

Nigeria has turned SIPRI into a lame duck and under-informed entity blinded in the dark room by Nigerian military secrecy .

Meanwhile, SANDF reveals all it's weapons imports and have been confirmed broke by Defenceweb
. [/size]

andrewza:
http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38900:high-impact-at-rheinmetall-denel-defence-day&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116



One of the world’s largest live-firing demonstrations got underway at the Overberg Test Range earlier this week when Rheinmetall and Denel hosted the second Defence Day, aimed at showcasing Rheinmetall Denel Munition’s capabilities to 400 guests from 57 countries around the world.

The first Defence Day was held at Alkantpan in the Northern Cape. Another Defence Day is scheduled to be held five years from now. For 2015’s edition, held at the Range on April 22 and 23, Rheinmetall and Denel joined forces to display a wide range of weapons and ammunition, from 40 mm grenades to guided bombs.

A wide range of artillery shells was demonstrated, ranging from 105 to 155 mm and in various different types from practice to tracer and illuminating. Shells were fired from nearly 50 kilometres away to land on the Range, and were also fired from the Range at various targets from a self-propelled T5-52 howitzer. This mounts a G5 towed gun on a truck, with the howitzer firing from the rear for an unobstructed arc of fire. It can fire three rounds in under 20 seconds in burst mode.

The artillery shells fired contained various different payloads such as illumination, screening smoke, high explosive, High Explosive Pre-Formed Fragmented (HE PFF), infrared illumination and Velocity-Enhanced Extended Range Shells (VLAP), which use rocket and base bleed assistance for ranges in excess of 40 kilometres. The 155 mm Assegaai HE PFF shell, for example, contains 18 000 tungsten pellets that are lethal out to 50 metres. The Assegaai shell features insensitive explosives that will not easily detonate when struck by bullets, for example.

A 76 mm OTO Melara naval gun was brought in and this fired tracers as well as PFF ammunition to disable a simulated anti-ship missile mounted on a pole down the range.

A South African Air Force Hawk was used to demonstrate the Al Tariq glide bomb developed by joint Denel/Tawazun company Tawazun Dynamics. The Hawk flew tens of kilometres out to sea before launching the weapon, which glided in over land to hit its target almost dead on. Other South African Air Force aircraft were involved in the demonstration, namely the Seeker 200 (which demonstrated its surveillance capabilities, such as being able to see a tennis ball on the ground at 5 000 feet), and the Rooivalk, which fired FZ 70 rockets and 20 mm cannon rounds at targets on the range. South Africa was one of the earliest customers for the Belgian FZ 70 rockets and Rheinmetall Denel Munition is the exclusive supplier of its rocket propellant.

The Plofadder minefield breaching system caused a big impact, with two different versions of the system being demonstrated: a backpack portable version and the Plofadder 160AT Mk II trailer-borne version containing 560 kg of insensitive explosive to clear minefields.

Denel Dynamics demonstrated the seven second rocket motor for its Umkhonto air-to-surface missile while a Badger missile variant fired an Ingwe anti-tank missile at a target down the range. The Ingwe has a tandem warhead and can penetrate more than 1 000 mm of rolled homogenous armour. However, for the demonstration an inert warhead was used. The Badger also fired its 30 mm CamGun, developed by Denel Land Systems. A BAE Systems RG35 also had the chance to fire its cannon, at a derelict tank down the range.

Various small and medium calibre weapons were demonstrated, notably Denel Land System’s new LCT turret (7.62 mm SS-77 machinegun) aboard a new generation Casspir and Rippel Effect and Milkor’s grenade launchers (which fired smoke, high explosive and less lethal ammunition). Some of the less lethal ammunition fired by the grenades included multi-bang flash bangs (each grenade contains several explosive charges) and rapidly deploying teargas (multiple pellets in one grenade, which also makes it difficult for people to pick up and throw back the canister). An automatic grenade launcher was also put through its paces. Both low, medium and high velocity ammunition was used.

Various mortars were put through their paces, namely 60, 81 and 120 mm mortar bombs fired from M4, M6, L16 and M5 mortars. Various types of rounds were demonstrated, such as screening smoke, high explosive, illumination etc.

Apart from the weapons, the list of pyrotechnics demonstrated included hand-fired rocket flares, hand grenades (lethal and less lethal), illuminating grenades, smoke grenades and signalling grenades.

Denel Land Systems division Mechem put on a dog show, using its highly trained dogs to detect hidden explosives in a vehicle and drugs on a person. The dogs also demonstrated their attack skills by chasing and bringing down running targets. The dogs are trained to sniff out many different things, such as rhino horn, currency and cellphones in addition to drugs and explosives.

Rheinmetall Denel Munition specialises in the field of ammunition, including design, development and manufacturing, particularly regarding artillery, mortar and infantry systems as well as plant engineering. While Rheinmetall Defence does most of its business with NATO countries, Rheinmetall Denel Munition covers not only the South African market but also Asia, the Middle East and Latin America. RDM’s factories in South Africa are all at 100% capacity and some are even running 24 hours a day to keep pace with demand.

Rheinmetall Denel CEO Norbert Schulze said that RDM makes the most modern ammunition in Africa that is on a par with international manufacturers. For example, RDM displaced a French company in manufacturing the propellant for the FZ 70 rocket. Schulze noted that the company’s turnover was five times that after Rheinmetall took over six years ago. Denel Group CEO Riaz Saloojee also praised the success of RDM, saying that when companies partner with Denel, they partner with South Africa since Denel is 100% state owned and as a result can guarantee long-term relationships.

A large number of other companies were involved in the Defence Day, including Pretoria Metal Pressings (PMP), Denel Land Systems, BAE Systems, Denel Dynamics, Rheinmetall Defence, Denel Aviation, Overberg Test Range, Forges de Zeebrugge, Ripple Effect, Milkor, and Mechem, amongst others.

Notice how they say Seeker 200 UAV is a South African Air Force aircraft. Also like how we have a long range, precision guided munition capability for the Hawks. Something other air forces can only dream of. I sometimes feel sorry for our Hawks, everyone talks about Gripen. But they still carry a massive punch, especially when they get A-Darter this year.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]

SANDF is the one that is bankrupt.

SIPRI confessed that they do not know all Nigeria's weapons purchases because according to SIPRI, Nigerian military acquisition is largely secretive, so how will they add the value of secret weapons purchases?

I think you have problem with basic logical thinkng.

SIPRI even says they don't know the source of most of Nigeria's T-72 tanks, so they don't even know how many T-72 tanks we have purchased.

Nigeria has turned SIPRI into a lame duck and under-informed entity blinded in the dark room by Nigerian military secrecy .

Meanwhile, SANDF reveals all it's weapons imports and have been confirmed broke by Defenceweb
. [/size]

[size=16pt]Nigerian spending (total values) is readily available as it is public record.

What you spend your money on is a different story and is harder to track. And in anycase, we are talking about budgets here.

But the fact remains:

Nigerian Military Budget: $2.3 Billion (plus a once off $1 billion stimulus)
SANDF Budget: $3,8 Billion EVERY YEAR

Hahahaha, your army is twice as big yet we have allmost twice the budget as you!!

If we spend this much on less men and still consider it not enough, it goes to show how low Nigerian Military standards are![/size]

EVarn:
MUMU!!!!,Nigerian soldiers werent defeated in that assault,they repelled the attack.The word I used was "assaulted",not "defeated".You jumped into conclusion just like i expected you to do,typical zulu intellectual malady!.
Moreover,the BH 'cattle strategy' was quite ingenious,even the most radical military strategist wouldnt have expected such a crazy stunt.

Your men ran from cows

Patchesagain:


Wait.

Just wait.

You are saying artillery is used on the front line? With the infantry? Not behind the front lines?

Cuba and South Africa did it in 704 and 80s, enemy commanders will not expect it and likely send their aircraft 20km+ away to try locate the guns and MRLs.

But it is dangerous.

South Africa captured tons of enemy artillery pieces at the front lines.

MikeCZAR:
Cuba and South Africa did it in 704 and 80s, enemy commanders will not expect it and likely send their aircraft 20km+ away to try locate the guns and MRLs.

But it is dangerous.

South Africa captured tons of enemy artillery pieces at the front lines.

G5 all most had to engage Cuban tanks in a direct fire battle. But it is nothing new.

The German 88mm where anti guns that had to fire on French and brit tanks. It was so effective that it became a dedicated AT gun. The Brita all so pressed there 3.7inch AA in to AT guns on occasion and used the 25pounder in the AT role once the 2pounder was made obsolete but before the arrival of the 6 pounder.

MikeCZAR:
Your men ran from cows

bring proof

MikeCZAR:
Cuba and South Africa did it in 704 and 80s, enemy commanders will not expect it and likely send their aircraft 20km+ away to try locate the guns and MRLs.

But it is dangerous.

South Africa captured tons of enemy artillery pieces at the front lines.

Yes no doubt on occasion they will be used in forward echelons

But artillery spends the majority of its time in the rear or in the reserve sector of the front.

Indirect fire versus direct fire.

Patchesagain:


[size=16pt]Nigerian spending (total values) is readily available as it is public record.

What you spend your money on is a different story and is harder to track. And in anycase, we are talking about budgets here.

But the fact remains:

Nigerian Military Budget: $2.3 Billion (plus a once off $1 billion stimulus)
SANDF Budget: $3,8 Billion EVERY YEAR

Hahahaha, your army is twice as big yet we have allmost twice the budget as you!!

If we spend this much on less men and still consider it not enough, it goes to show how low Nigerian Military standards are![/size]

[size=16pt]

Nope, SANDF spends most of it's defense budget on paying fat salaries to lazy soldiers and inexperienced pot belly Generals who see military work as a way out of unemployment and part their BEE Blackman's benefit from ANC government.

The fact is that SIPRI confessed they have no fact about Nigerian military because of secrecy. So your fact is NOT fact, the fact is unknown to the world
.
[/size]

Patchesagain:


Yes no doubt on occasion they will be used in forward echelons

are you contradicting yourself now?

i hope you realize you have just confirmed @agaugust to be right.

sometimes you need to do some research before coming to spread your lies and ignorance here.

it's disgusting.

Centrifude:


True the problem is that most of their goods are sent in illegally and tax free, and their businesses aren't registered so they don't pay tax like other South Africans, and that's my only problem with all those Businesses.

But its a good thing the government is working on tackling that issue right now.

Blame your Southie government for the poor immigration controls that failed to control illegal immigration.

Blame your South Africa for allowing more legal immigrants than your economy can absorb, all because your government wants to make money from all visa applicant, you just issue visas to anybody any how even if he is potentially a drug pusher.

Blame your ANC government of incompetent blacks and coloreds who cannot operate an effective grass root level tax collection system.

Blame South Africa for being a rotten third world country...have you bought enough candles for tonight? Eskom is about to make you blind again tonight, you will grope in the dark
.

Patchesagain:


And yet two South Africans have been in bigger movies, been paid more and won more awards than all of your actors combined.

lel

Citations and data needed for the above lies
.

agaugust:




[size=16pt]

Nope, SANDF spends most of it's defense budget on paying fat salaries to lazy soldiers and inexperienced pot belly Generals who see military work as a way out of unemployment and part their BEE Blackman's benefit from ANC government.

The fact is that SIPRI confessed they have no fact about Nigerian military because of secrecy. So your fact is NOT fact, the fact is unknown to the world
.
[/size]

[size=16pt]Cool opinion

But facts are facts - SANDF has allmost twice the budget than the Nigerian Military despite being half its size.

Henry120 posting fictitious e-mails changes nothing.

Deal with it - your military has no money!!! [/size]