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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Sprumbabafather: 8:00am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

How many tribes deal on spare parts in Nigeria? Should we say that all Igbo traders into spare part should go buy land to build their shops?

I believe that what is appropriate is for the government to build ranch and LEASE to breeders

Except you live in a hole or just pretending to be stvpid, spare parts traders pay for the land they trade on everywhere.
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Sprumbabafather: 8:14am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Story!

Cattle breeding falls within the Agricultural subsector, which is under the purview of the government and a LEGITIMATE business.

While spare parts manufacturing and sales falls under the purview of IPOB and illegitimate?

You need to go back to school TonyeBarcanista.
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:36am On Jan 20, 2018
enemybulldozer:
Maybe the guy is still angry with you because of your hate comments against Igbos during operation python dance. Remember internet never forgets cool cool cool
I am not aware of any hate comments against Igbo, I'm only aware that patriotic citizens came together to stand against IPOB, which we defeated collectively.

I hold ZERO apology for that!
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by enemybulldozer(m): 9:03am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
I am not aware of any hate comments against Igbo, I'm only aware that patriotic citizens came together to stand against IPOB, which we defeated collectively.

I hold ZERO apology for that!
What did IPOB do wrong that made you 'patriotic' citizens want them dead but want ranches /colonies for killer herdsmen??

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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by enemybulldozer(m): 9:07am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB are forgone issues. I wish him well wherever he is and please, stop bringing him into this narrative.

As for your wishes, I already have lots of Fulanis in my life, just like I have people of ther ethnic stock.

May we learn to look beyond tribal lenses
What makes you think Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB are forgone issues??
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Sprumbabafather: 9:08am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
I am not aware of any hate comments against Igbo, I'm only aware that patriotic citizens came together to stand against IPOB, which we defeated collectively.

I hold ZERO apology for that!

The day you will feel like vomiting the whole money paid to you to write nonsense is when ijawland and okrika is turned into a cattle colony. You will take your whole village to Cape Verde grin
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by codedguy1(m): 10:04am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
@naijaseeker: I am from Okrika, Rivers state not Bayelsa state.


The indigenes don't want to sell/lease/rent land to the rearers due to reasons best known to them...

State government must step in, acquire lands by paying appropriate compensation to indigenes, and then lease this land to breeders. This will be in the interest of all parties.

We must end open grazing but we have to proposed better alternative in the interest of the country.


Aside Taraba state, no state in the Northwest or Northeast has functional ranch... This is an aberration and indictment on the northern leaders.

However, we can't restrict them to the north alone except we are dividing Nigeria.

why can't they be restricted to the north if non of the southern states want the colonies.

if its the grass they want we can do business with them by transporting feed for their cattle just like if we want meat down south they can transport down here.

we have always done things that Dont make sense in this country and that's why we will never get it right especially now that we have a depostic nepotistic bigoted person at the helm of affair.

In Qatar or somewhere in the far east desert has been converted to farm lands just to produce what they eat, here we are still grappling with the nomadic nature of a certain ethnic group and all Nigerians must be made to bow to it.

Tonye, you have missed road with this write up and position.

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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by enemybulldozer(m): 10:30am On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista

I have been following conversation on the issue between Nigerians in the business of cattle breeding alias Fulani herdsmen and indigenous farmers in Benue, Taraba and other states majorly in the Northeast, Northcentral and Southwest.

Firstly, I must express my displeasure and utter disappointment in some of our political, ethnic and religious leaders from both sides of the divide, who have been engaging themselves in uttering narratives that were tantamount to hate speeches against those from the other side of the divide, since the unfortunate attacks against innocent citizens from Benue state. While I admit that some of these narrative were products of heightened emotions, I must say that one of the fundamental problems we have in this country is that some of our elites and so-called opinion leaders have the habit of sensationalising every issue by stoking religious and ethnic sentiment in other to play to the gallery and further some inappropriate agenda. This is a sad and very unfortunate.

Secondly, I wish to state that Nigerians must learn to separate criminals and terrorists from their ethnic and religious groups, as well as their trade if we really want to achieve peace, mutual understanding and cooperation. We must learn to distinguish militiamen and terrorists of Fulani extraction that must be brought to justice, from herdsmen that are of Fulani extraction irrespective of whether the terrorists are also into the trade of cattle breeding or not. In fact, it is the right thing to do! As an Ijaw man, I get offended each time I see headlines such as "Ijaw militants" or "Niger Delta militants" because I believe that the narrative was stereotyping people of the Ijaw nation and Niger Delta region as people that always take to violence to make known their grievances simply because majority of people that took to militancy and violent agitation are from the region. Same way I would be offended by the narrative of equating Fulani herdsmen as militiamen if I were to be a Fulaniman that is in the business of cattle breeding.

Furthermore, I hold a strong conviction that the call for proscribing “Fulani herdsmen” is inappropriate and misguided as it simply means criminalising people of Fulani ethnic group that are involved in the business of cattle breeding. However, I must state that the appropriate way to tackle these militiamen/terrorists is for federal government and security agencies to start treating every herdsman that goes about with unlicensed firearms as enemies of the State in line with section 28(i) of Firearms Act and other laws.

To avoid future recurrence of the farmer/herdsmen clash, the umbrella body of Cattle breeders, Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, MACBAN, should educate their members on the consequences of destroying farmlands in line with relevant laws and ensure that mechanism for adequate compensation of a farmer is in place in a situation where farmlands are invaded by cattle and crops destroyed. This can be achieved when MACBAN partners with the farmers unions and communities where they operate to setup joint monitoring team whose responsibility is to ensure that the lives and crops of farmers are protected, and apprehend or assist in apprehending defaulting herdsmen irrespective of status.

Similarly, the farmers and communities should put mechanism in place to ensure that the lives and cattle of herdsmen within their locality is protected and arrest or assist in arresting members of the community or farmer that default by attacking either the herdsman or the cattle.

Furthermore, I believe that open grazing is an archaic method of cattle breeding and a system that create room for clashes between the cattle breeders and farmers, and this system of cattle breeding should be illegal. In place of it, state governments create grazing fields and put on lease to the cattle breeders through MACBAN. Royalties/rents can be collected from the operators of this field in addition to tax payable to the government by individual operators. This grazing field should be supervised by the state’s ministry of agriculture or a specialised agency. A positive side to this is that it will serve as a pool of revenue generation to the state and will further create employment for teaming youths, as well as boost our dairy industry and agriculture subsector.

Let me state that I am opposed to herdsmen acquiring/buying lands as grazing fields because it will cause problems in future as the issue of land ownership may arise after a couple of years or even decades.

At this juncture I appeal to everyone from all sides of the divide to shun senseless conspiracy theories and narratives that will further polarise the already worsened situation, but instead tow the path that yields true reconciliation and furthers our unity.



May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

By Inioribo S. S. Tamunotonye,
National Coordinator,
Peoples Democratic Party National Youth League
Email: Tonyebarcanista@gmail.com; Writes from Abuja
http://swiftreporters.com/an-insight-on-benue-killings-and-thought-provoking-isssues-on-cattle-breeding-in-nigeria/
I did not see you condemn their atrocities in this your article neither did I see you label fulani herdsmen terrorists the way you did when the python dancers were dancing in the east. This is hypocrisy at it's peak. During operation python dance you were in every thread condemning IPOB and Kanu without thinking twice in fact, here are some of your comments...

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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by freeze001(f): 12:10pm On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

I have read the links and I smh!

From my understanding of the report, a certain herdsman Gilolo said it was revenge attack but the same REPORT said MACBAN through the spokesman CONDEMNED the killing and said MACBAN/herdsmen aren't killers that killers be treated as killers and not herdsmen.

If not to justify your preconceived bias against the Fulani herdsmen, I am sure you would ordinarily have known that there is a difference between speaking in personal capacity and official capacity. The Gilolo guy spoke on his own and not for MACBAN, he deserve to be arrested by the DSS and treated as a suspected perpetrator but his opinion doesn't erode that of Miyetti Allah.

The Gololo in question is not just any member but a leader of a state chapter. He clearly communicated their intent and purpose. For as long as he remains free without being arrested and jailed along with the perpetrators, it remains clear that the actions of the MACBAN are government approved and supported.

I always advice people to drop sentiment if they really want to achieve result or peace.

People must not take arms before states do what it appropriate. Having lands for cattle ranches that is leased to MACBAN for their members to breed cattle is appropriate, not because anybody need to placate the herdsmen or anybody but because it us the RIGHT THING TO DO (just like the cases of parks that I cited)

On the contrary, the right thing to do is to live in peace and stop propagating their history plans of displacement and dominance. That is why all sane persons resistant them. For as long as they are not punished severely for their evil, any government intervention that amounts to creating seizure of lands for colonies or anything in that guise will mean that their tactics of takin up arms is condoned and successful.
I am certain u saw the video of the lady reps member that proudly declared that God created them to value cattle even more than their lives or the lives of any other human for that matter.

This is emotional and egoistic consideration that aren't factors when real policies are made.

I'm sure they will have PEACE of mind knowing that nobody will bring his cattle to eat their crop or attack their land in whatever guise... except there is another thing that people like you aren't telling us.

On the contrary, every law and policy must comply with the principles of equity, good conscience and public policy. If a group of people are consistently identified as unforgiving murderers with long memories who value the lives of their animals over that of humans, such people should never be foisted on othersparticularly those who have constantly borne the brunt of their inhuman and brutish lifestyle.

They will rather not have them and enjoy their security than have them and live constantly wary and fearful of some unprovoked attack or some vengeance over an issue which might have occurred decades ago.

Did u also read of the prof that calls Benue a property of the fulanis by reason of conquest? And u think thy will have peace of mind when a govt carves out their land and hands over to conquerors in the name of cattle colonies?

So why not tell People selling spare parts in Lagos, Abuja, Rivers, Warri etc to go to their states government and apply for market to trade their wares?

Why not tell the Akwa Ibom food seller in Lagos to go to her state government to get a place where she would sell her food? Why not tell the Ijaw fisherman to restrict his fishing to only rivers that surround Ijawland?

You see the flaw of this logic?

These persons are generally peaceful people who honour and respect the sanctity of lives and property. Lagos is happy to have the Akwa Ibom food seller because she abides by the law of the land. However, some cattle rearers say Benue and Taraba will know no peace because the state law bans open grazing. Is that sane or proper? If the rearers through their organisation cannot parlay with state authorities and even source loans to acquire sufficient land to construct ranches for themselves in order to ply their business peacefully but rather choose to continually destroy farms and kill those that confront them then it is absolutely irresponsible for any govt particularly the FG to propose govt funded colonies.

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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:26pm On Jan 20, 2018
freeze001:


The Gololo in question is not just any member but a leader of a state chapter. He clearly communicated their intent and purpose. For as long as he remains free without being arrested and jailed along with the perpetrators, it remains clear that the actions of the MACBAN are government approved and supported.
There is a difference between somebody speaking in his personal capacity and same person speaking in his official capacity. Statement spoken in personal capacity of an INDIVIDUAL irrespective his status, is considered PERSONAL OPINION of that person and not that of the group he leads.

The MACBAN's opinion was spoken by the Publicity Secretary and that is what counts. If not that the lense of bigotry have beclouded you, you should have been calling for the arrest of Gololo for the sake of justice but you wouldn't.

It is even appalling that an educated folk will consider the opinion of an individual as that of the group AGAINST the official position of the group... Funny

On the contrary, the right thing to do is to live in peace and stop propagating their history plans of displacement and dominance. That is why all sane persons resistant them. For as long as they are not punished severely for their evil, any government intervention that amounts to creating seizure of lands for colonies or anything in that guise will mean that their tactics of takin up arms is condoned and successful.
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How does State government creating ranches and putting them on lease that will generate revenue to the state and arrest indiscriminate invasion of farms becomes land seizure? I will have to return to Primary school I think



On the contrary, every law and policy must comply with the principles of equity, good conscience and public policy. If a group of people are consistently identified as unforgiving murderers with long memories who value the lives of their animals over that of humans, such people should never be foisted on othersparticularly those who have constantly borne the brunt of their inhuman and brutish lifestyle.

They will rather not have them and enjoy their security than have them and live constantly wary and fearful of some unprovoked attack or some vengeance over an issue which might have occurred decades ago.
Government isn't run by emotions or vendetta, but by actions that promote mutual understanding, peaceful coexisting and progress in the interest of the PUBLIC.

I am certain u saw the video of the lady reps member that proudly declared that God created them to value cattle even more than their lives or the lives of any other human for that matter. Did u also read of the prof that calls Benue a property of the fulanis by reason of conquest? And u think thy will have peace of mind when a govt carves out their land and hands over to conquerors in the name of cattle colonies?
These are the personal opinion of the commenters (who I consider misguided attention-seeking troublemakers). In my opening paragraph I made mention of these people and expressed disappointment in them. If you chose not to see it, THAT IS NOT MY PROBLEM



These persons are generally peaceful people who honour and respect the sanctity of lives and property. Lagos is happy to have the Akwa Ibom food seller because she abides by the law of the land. However, some cattle rearers say Benue and Taraba will know no peace because the state law bans open grazing. Is that sane or proper? If the rearers through their organisation cannot parlay with state authorities and even source loans to acquire sufficient land to construct ranches for themselves in order to ply their business peacefully but rather choose to continually destroy farms and kill those that confront them then it is absolutely irresponsible for any govt particularly the FG to propose govt funded colonies.
Shed off your tribal lenses and you will get the clear picture...



Have a splendid weekend Ma'am
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by theDEVILisHERE: 12:29pm On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista

I have been following conversation on the issue between Nigerians in the business of cattle breeding alias Fulani herdsmen and indigenous farmers in Benue, Taraba and other states majorly in the Northeast, Northcentral and Southwest.

Firstly, I must express my displeasure and utter disappointment in some of our political, ethnic and religious leaders from both sides of the divide, who have been engaging themselves in uttering narratives that were tantamount to hate speeches against those from the other side of the divide, since the unfortunate attacks against innocent citizens from Benue state. While I admit that some of these narrative were products of heightened emotions, I must say that one of the fundamental problems we have in this country is that some of our elites and so-called opinion leaders have the habit of sensationalising every issue by stoking religious and ethnic sentiment in other to play to the gallery and further some inappropriate agenda. This is a sad and very unfortunate.

Secondly, I wish to state that Nigerians must learn to separate criminals and terrorists from their ethnic and religious groups, as well as their trade if we really want to achieve peace, mutual understanding and cooperation. We must learn to distinguish militiamen and terrorists of Fulani extraction that must be brought to justice, from herdsmen that are of Fulani extraction irrespective of whether the terrorists are also into the trade of cattle breeding or not. In fact, it is the right thing to do! As an Ijaw man, I get offended each time I see headlines such as "Ijaw militants" or "Niger Delta militants" because I believe that the narrative was stereotyping people of the Ijaw nation and Niger Delta region as people that always take to violence to make known their grievances simply because majority of people that took to militancy and violent agitation are from the region. Same way I would be offended by the narrative of equating Fulani herdsmen as militiamen if I were to be a Fulaniman that is in the business of cattle breeding.

Furthermore, I hold a strong conviction that the call for proscribing “Fulani herdsmen” is inappropriate and misguided as it simply means criminalising people of Fulani ethnic group that are involved in the business of cattle breeding. However, I must state that the appropriate way to tackle these militiamen/terrorists is for federal government and security agencies to start treating every herdsman that goes about with unlicensed firearms as enemies of the State in line with section 28(i) of Firearms Act and other laws.

To avoid future recurrence of the farmer/herdsmen clash, the umbrella body of Cattle breeders, Miyetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association, MACBAN, should educate their members on the consequences of destroying farmlands in line with relevant laws and ensure that mechanism for adequate compensation of a farmer is in place in a situation where farmlands are invaded by cattle and crops destroyed. This can be achieved when MACBAN partners with the farmers unions and communities where they operate to setup joint monitoring team whose responsibility is to ensure that the lives and crops of farmers are protected, and apprehend or assist in apprehending defaulting herdsmen irrespective of status.

Similarly, the farmers and communities should put mechanism in place to ensure that the lives and cattle of herdsmen within their locality is protected and arrest or assist in arresting members of the community or farmer that default by attacking either the herdsman or the cattle.

Furthermore, I believe that open grazing is an archaic method of cattle breeding and a system that create room for clashes between the cattle breeders and farmers, and this system of cattle breeding should be illegal. In place of it, state governments create grazing fields and put on lease to the cattle breeders through MACBAN. Royalties/rents can be collected from the operators of this field in addition to tax payable to the government by individual operators. This grazing field should be supervised by the state’s ministry of agriculture or a specialised agency. A positive side to this is that it will serve as a pool of revenue generation to the state and will further create employment for teaming youths, as well as boost our dairy industry and agriculture subsector.

Let me state that I am opposed to herdsmen acquiring/buying lands as grazing fields because it will cause problems in future as the issue of land ownership may arise after a couple of years or even decades.

At this juncture I appeal to everyone from all sides of the divide to shun senseless conspiracy theories and narratives that will further polarise the already worsened situation, but instead tow the path that yields true reconciliation and furthers our unity.



May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

By Inioribo S. S. Tamunotonye,
National Coordinator,
Peoples Democratic Party National Youth League
Email: Tonyebarcanista@gmail.com; Writes from Abuja
http://swiftreporters.com/an-insight-on-benue-killings-and-thought-provoking-isssues-on-cattle-breeding-in-nigeria/

This write up exemplifies the stupidity of the blackman
He deceives himself by writing all sort of jargon and nonsensical theories when deep down he knows the answer to his problems but doesn't want to face it

Are u telling me you don't know that the very existence of Nigeria is cause of all this?
Are u telling me you don't know that once the Shithole ceases to exists all this would be put to a stop?

Why then for all this long writeup
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 12:33pm On Jan 20, 2018
enemybulldozer:
I did not see you condemn their atrocities in this your article neither did I see you label fulani herdsmen terrorists the way you did when the python dancers were dancing in the east. This is hypocrisy at it's peak. During operation python dance you were in every thread condemning IPOB and Kanu without thinking twice in fact, here are some of your comments...


If you skip or chose to turn a blind eye to this then it is no longer my problem
Secondly, I wish to state that Nigerians must learn to separate criminals and terrorists from their ethnic and religious groups, as well as their trade if we really want to achieve peace, mutual understanding and cooperation. We must learn to distinguish militiamen and terrorists of Fulani extraction that must be brought to justice, from herdsmen that are of Fulani extraction irrespective of whether the terrorists are also into the trade of cattle breeding or not.



My position on IPOB still stand
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Feraz(m): 2:55pm On Jan 20, 2018
Sapiosexuality:
Bro, you see, young people are reading. People with un-formed minds are reading and they are easily deceived by aesthetics and semantics. They are easily confused by topics like this and our silence is a disservice to the nation and humanity. By replying him we give them something to think about and if they are good enough, they are always innocent, they'd know what to pick.


This is apt. I can count the lies (which I am not ready to point out as those usernames have been deactivated) he has told which have been bought by people both offline and online.

plaetton:


Painstaking garbage.

Why massaging the issues ?

Who are the both sides in this issue that this mor.on refers to?

The murderers and their murdered victims?
The survivors who are mourning their losses and the criminals still at large ?


The article is shallow and empty, the kind of empty, cowardly rhetorics that are peculiar to politicians,. But in this case, not just any politician, but ones who think they owe some kind of axx-licking allegiance to the Fulani fiefdom in Nigeria.

The writer shockingly omits to acknowledge the increasing tempo of mass murders committed by Fulani herdsmen against community after community in Benue and other states over the last few years.

The writer plays the proverbial ostrich by pretending that recurring events of Fulani herdsmen ( yes, FULANI herdsmen) and their or.gies of mass murders are simply misunderstandings between two friends or communities.

The writer painstakingly omits to berate the federal government and body language of the present leader , whose very loud silence and tepid response to these mass killings does nothing but embolden the killers.

Funny that this writer used much harsher words to berate Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB, who, throughout their angry struggles with Nigerian state, neither carried arms nor threatened any Nigerian citizen with violence.

When I realize that we have plenty of people with a very dishonest and cowardly disposition on very critical national issues like the writer, it makes me want to vomit. Seriously.

There is only one side of this issue, not two.
People, a mass of people , are being repeatedly murdered and genocided by FULANI herdsmen , who happen to enjoy the support of the present government, at least the president, for sure.

Stop trying to obfuscate the very very sad issue.
It's a grave insult to the victims, and emboldens the terrorists that they have legitimate grievances.
Apt again.

The write-up reminds me of how the IGP dismissed the whole thing and reduced it to a "communal clash". He is definitely eyeing a very big position in the future hence why he is trying to be politically correct.

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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Feraz(m): 2:55pm On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:

Are transporters in parks not private businessmen operating for profit? Cattle breeding is part of the activities that adds to the economy and further the Agriculture subsector, so yes, it is the job of government to ensure ease of doing business.

With a grazing territory they would remain in business and still not trample on crops of farmers like the way they are doing in open grazing.

Beside, if they were Ijaw/Igbo, I will advocate same...

Meanwhile, who says a non-Fulani can't go into cattle breeding business when ranch is provided?
The bolded has been happening in the SE and we have not heard of cases of a cattle owner causing harm and destruction to farmers there so ranching is nothing new.
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by enemybulldozer(m): 3:07pm On Jan 20, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:



If you skip or chose to turn a blind eye to this then it is no longer my problem




My position on IPOB still stand
You're not God Almighty neither are you his son yeshua so your stand on IPOB issue means nothing to me its just that I feel like pinpointing your hypocrisy and double standards because I know you're being driven by hate you have for the Igbo nation.

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