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Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Sapiosexuality(m): 8:59pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
plaetton:I didn't even want to go there to starve him of points. I know how he responds to IPOB and Ijaw matters. It's good to always reply people like him to avoid contamination of the young. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 8:59pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
tesppidd:where do you put the Fulani cattle rustlers who kill the Fulani cattle rearer for their cows |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by plaetton: 9:01pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:Double post. |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:06pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
^^Fulani ARE in every area of Nigeria from education to politics! |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:06pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:The state government should make available grazing areas, and give to MACBAN on lease, while taking royalties/taxes... This field should be under the supervision of the state government |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by BENARI: 9:07pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
As far as I am concerned, everything you wrote up there is rubbish. You're simply looking for cheap popularity. You only succeeded in fooling yourself playing to the gallery. Nonsense! Wait, the day the killing reaches your doorstep, you'll sing a different tone. Mr. Fix It. Sycophants 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by tesppidd: 9:07pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:cattle rustlers are not only one tribe, they could be fulanis, ibos, yorubas, edos, igalas, idomas, all tribes. the point is these fulani herdsmen get killed too. a lot of people have been mischievously restricting the debate to the death of fulani cows versus the death of famers. NO. It is the death of fulani herdsmen versus the death of famers. 1 Like |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:11pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
plaetton:Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB are forgone issues. I wish him well wherever he is and please, stop bringing him into this narrative. As for your wishes, I already have lots of Fulanis in my life, just like I have people of ther ethnic stock. May we learn to look beyond tribal lenses 1 Like |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:11pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
tesppidd:it is the umbrella body of the Fulani cattle rearers association that glorifies the death of cows in terms of millions and has given threats to states on the basis of the death of cows than to the loss of life |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by limeta(f): 9:12pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
For all i know this is not about cattles or ranches This is about islam starting where osman dan fodio stopped . You can rant all you like call me what ever But i tell you now one day in the morning you get off yr bed runing to save yr life cause men what is coming is coming . You can only defeat what is coming ,talk will be of no use. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:16pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:the question is now what is holding the Fulani cattle rearer and investir from approaching its core northern states to practice cattle rearing and why would the northern states refuse |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by flamingREED(m): 9:19pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: Must a state government make land available for them? What if a state refuses to give them land? Will that be unconstitutional? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by plaetton: 9:20pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: I keep bringing up Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB , and comparing your attitudes to the FULANI herdsmen genocide to simply show that you have NO character. 1 Like |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:20pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:Why must you insist on "core northern" states when they are Nigerians that are free to do business anywhere? Should it also be replicated that people should do business in their states of origin only? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:22pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
flamingREED:Which sensible government will deny citizens favorable environment to conduct business? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:23pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:When was the Benue death glorified? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:29pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:states are free to determine exactly what type of agro business it wants to capture in its internal generation revenue drive.if the core northern states are opposed to its traditional business of cattle rearing and it is opposed to large scale piggery rearing.is it abia or anambra that will open its doors seeing that cattle rearing does not work in any of the northern states 1 Like |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:30pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
Amarabae:Well, thanks a million... |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:32pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:I am not aware that the core northern states are opposed to it BUT, you and I know that the core northern states won't accommodate all herdsmen.. Meanwhile, what makes you think that non-Fulanies won't go into the line of business? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by lastmessenger: 9:37pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:political correctness. Political correctness. political correctness 1 Like |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:38pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:I am saying that the northern state as it stands are not practising it because they cannot and have not derived igr from it. |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by fx45(m): 9:39pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:When are you going to eschew political correctness from your psyche? Are you boldly telling us that you painstakingly put down that load of garbage under the guise of intellectual discourse? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:40pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:And who says the call for ranching is only restricted to non-northern states? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by flamingREED(m): 9:40pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: Cattle colonies will not be granted by many states, while MACBAN will not settle for modern ranching system. S,o who will be blamed then? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:42pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
fx45:Well, what can I say? |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:44pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
flamingREED:I don't know what the cattle colony is about and my proposal is for state government to make ranches available NOT FG... |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by baralatie(m): 9:45pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:the cattle rearing business in the north is considered unprofitable to the northern States and you want to force it down other states who are already giving its income to the federal coffers to be shared to the northern states who are rejecting ranching 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by freeze001(f): 9:50pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista: https://www.google.com.ng/amp/dailypost.ng/2018/01/06/fulani-herdsmen-finally-reveal-attacked-benue-communities/amp/ http://www.dailycorrespondents.com.ng/2018/01/we-attacked-benue-community-in-retaliation-for-our-stolen-1000-cows-miyetti-allah-breeders/ You can read this to see where the leadership of Miyetti clearly accepted responsibility for the attacks. The Benue state governor isn't demanding the arrest of these Miyetti leaders just for the hell of it. You have been on about how governments step in to build commercial motor parks for commercial transporters and all. Even in all their nuisance, how many of those drivers took up arms and committed murder to get parks marked off and built? Why then must the worst kind of wickedness and sense of entitlement be rewarded by that which they seek? They should be compelled to embrace modern ranching, the government has already intervened in its agriculture drive hence the availability of loans at low interest rates. They should apply and join others in accessing such facilities. Govt can also provide training but asking them to take lands by whatever means is a hypocritical position to even canvass. Have u taken cognisance of the psyche of those who have borne the brunt of these incessant, godless attacks? How would they feel having these marauders stationed in their homelands and appearing victorious in their evil quest of murder and destruction? Those herders and cattle owners come from states. They should approach their respective state governments and those willing to put up with them. The FG getting involved by proposing colonies at that level or applying any form of coercion is nepotism at its best. There are lots of Nigerians completely homeless and helpless. They need help and not wealthy cattle owners taking advantage of the very useless Nigerian system. 6 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by freeze001(f): 9:56pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
tesppidd: Is that really what it is? Then read this: http://www.dailycorrespondents.com.ng/2018/01/we-attacked-benue-community-in-retaliation-for-our-stolen-1000-cows-miyetti-allah-breeders/ |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 10:25pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
TonyeBarcanista:Yes, they did! I am familiar with how the property on 6 Ikorodu road in Jibowu was bought and developed by Chisco Transport, one of the luxurious bus owners. That property belonged to a family in Lagos, and they initially rented it to Chief Ajaegbu before finally selling it to his company. It was NOT given to them by govt. The bus park is next to the old Edo Line terminal in Jibowu. Lagos State Govt is now asking them to relocate from there, to Ojota. Even at Maza-Maza opposite Festac in Lagos, where most of the luxurious bus owners have their parks, they rented the property from the private owners of the buildings beside the road, and extended the land in front of it, to accommodate their buses. Govt did not dash Chisco, Young Shall Grow or Ifesinachi the land. Oga, go and check your facts. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by Bevista: 11:01pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
baralatie:In fairness, I wouldn't say the core northern states are opposed to cattle rearing. I think the states closer to the sahel region are suffering from environmental issues (desertification). Hence the need for the herders to migrate down south where they can find vegetation to feed the cows. --- But as I opined earlier, group ranches should be the exclusive prerogative of state governments. If a state says NO RANCHES in their vicinity, then that should be respected by all. If they are willing to provide ranches or colonies for cattle rearing, then they should set clear rules of engagement between the herders and the locals to prevent conflict. |
Re: An Insight On Benue Killings And Thought Provoking Issues On Cattle Breeding by laudate: 11:10pm On Jan 18, 2018 |
freeze001: Thank you!! [img]https://media./images/d58b5479d1eca0a85e190b0afb587571/tenor.gif[/img] |
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