On OBJ deceiving Jonathan, I think he  understands clearly how powerful the office of the president is. Jonathan's case is so different from Odili's case as the weapon OBJ used to coerce them to step down for UMYA , presently reside with GJ.

And here I thought Peter Obi was fairly re-elected, according to the Anambra people, first in democratic history, by the way! Anambra was hailed as the first fair election in a long time, not necessarily to the credit of the governor.

I don't think it is as simple as you try to make it. Take the case in Anambra pre Obi, for instance. Governors used to be at the mercy of the actual power brokers, and no matter what side the governors put themselves, the power brokers used to be hailed as the final decision makers. Some Governors may have some power but usually, it is beyond them to decide to gets to win or not. See the case in Delta that allowed someone like Oshiomole come in.

naijacann:

@Odunnu

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The only way Jonathan wins in 2011 is through strong arm rigging,

paddy_lo:

I never said he wasnt elected free and fair. . . .its just his incumbency powers were hard to beat. . .

also when someone like a saraki controls kwara state it doesnt mean they rig,it just means the people there like him and defer to his wishes

paddy_lo:

The same way the kennedys manage to dominate in new england,or southern politicians like Richard shelby manage to win elections over and over again

I wouldnt vote for shelby but apparently ppl in alabama love him for whatever reason

paddy_lo:
[b]what happens is a new Governor comes in and tries to take control of the machinery from the former governor who he is replacing
most Governors do control the state machinery now,especially those going for re-election which is majority of them. . .

Oshiomole himself is in control in edo state,and most PDP members are decamping to AC

In other states opposition members are decamping en masse to PDP

In ondo state AC and PDP are decamping to labour party(mimikos party))
Its all a matter of patronage,The Governors control that

Remember Fashola-Tinubu? No one, to this day can state for a fact that that election was fair, but the people of Lagos are lucky they got a better man at the end of it all. I think the only one that has enjoyed that to this day is Peter Obi.

are you suggesting they  rig the election in those states  


Look you IBB is running, he would win Niger state.

Buhari is a fulani/hausa he would win  Bauchi, Sokoto,Katsina, Kano

Or do you think the fulani/hausa are going to leave thier son and vote Jonathan. No they would not. They only way he can win those places is through election rigging.   even if they present a cat or dog and say it is Fulani/hausa, Jonathan would not win against the cat. expect by rigging.   Go and ask any nigerian.  Why do you think he never attended Yar adua burial. Because he did not want to be disgraced. you dont know nigeria.


In short remove your eyes from the northerner state. Dont depend on thier vote for anything. they would vote thier people. Kwara and kogi are mostly yorubas if you look at the satellite pictures. we determine who win that place.

Paddylo

I don't know where you are from but you are sure paying a rent in fantasy land.

Politics is more complicated than you think it is. Jonathan is still a student in the business.

The only way Jonathan wins in 2011 is through strong arm rigging, that will even scar his Presidency more and he may not last in office. He even does not have the foot soldiers for such.

The man is better ofs going home by 2011.

Gbawe , dont mind them, even getting nominated by the PDP is a difficult task for him.

He has to win the PDP nomination. And the north has the largest number of nomination in the PDP. followed by the Yorubas. So even to get nomination is a problem. expect they go and bribe the candidate.

paddy_lo:

Lagos state election together with kano were adjudged by international observers to be free and fair

What international observers?

You are quite correct, this is even more pronounced in hausaland. The hausa version of tiwa n tiwa in Yoruba is Namu namu ne. meaning ours is ours

[b]middle bel[/b]t,south south,and southeast delegates are in the bag for GJ

can u pls tell me how MKO Abiola won in kano,and how OBJ won the last 2 elections?

really u have insulted d middle belt and i must confess your ignorance of the middle belt is glaring.

how fair were OBJ elections?

You can not compare abiola with anybody. Abiola was a muslim and abiola was know to help northerner, look it is easy for a Yorubaman to win the north. It is not that difficult.

I can win the north

Middle Belt Forum Backs Jonathan
ABUJA, May 02, (THEWILL) - As political activities ahead of the 2011 election continues to gather momentum, the Middle Belt Forum (MBF), a regional front propagating the political interest of the North Central geo-political zone has joined other northern groups to declare its support for a Goodluck Jonathan Presidency.

The zone which declared its position in Abuja on Sunday is also seeking for the Vice Presidential slot under Jonathan.

National Chairman of the Forum, Chief Isaac Shaahu who stated this said the group will not support former military President Ibrahim Babangida who is from the North Central as according to him it has become clear that Jonathan is the right person for the position in 2011.

Stating that the group is not in support of the zoning arrangement in the PDP, Shaahu who is also a member of the Board of Trustee (BOT) of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) said the choice of Jonathan came after several consultations with stakeholders and political leaders across the country.

He said the zoning formula is not entrenched in the constitution of the party and is not binding for 2011.

According to him, "We are thinking of the best person to govern this country. After our meeting and several consultations we resolved to support Acting President Goodluck Jonathan for the Presidency.

"So I can tell you that the Middle Belt Region is solidly behind him. We concluded our meeting last Thursday and agreed that the best person to govern the country is the person who will remember the minority in the south and the north and we have resolved to support Jonathan," Shaahu said.

He said it is time for the minority groups to come together and give the nation a credible leadership with the President coming from the southern minority groups and the Vice President from the northern minority groups.

The development is coming on the heels of rising agitation by various groups urging the PDP to discard the zoning formula in the process of choosing candidates for the 2011 election.

Jonathan who is yet to declare his intention to run for the Presidency in 2011 had however announced that any Nigerian has the right to contest for the position.

me i prefer GJ because i dont want IBB or buhari to smell power in Nigeria again

you forget Obasanjo come from a big ethnics, Jonathan is not from a big ethnics group, this is the major problem. So fight is going to be difficlt and I can tell you this. The Yorubas do not intend to wait till 2048.

If that is what the PDP thinks. They are all wasting their time. What it means is that in 2011, please quote me on this the Yorubas would not vote for a party that think , we would wait till 2048. We do not intend to wait till 2048. And please note in BOLD LETTER. This statement is not mine OWN but that of the nation of Odua.

Also Abiola did not win because he was muslim

u should have told us that all along and save us a long argument

Well, Jonathan if he win , finish 2 term in 2019. it means the north would have waited for 18 years since 1999. That is one thing I am worried about. And it scare me to think about it, what may happen.

pandlo, you are joking with me. do the right calculation. the Yoruba nation is not a fool my friend.  Look thier is no permanent friend , no permanent enermy. There is no permanent party.  And no party can tell you they can fool the yoruba people. We vote where it please us. We where hoping he would pick a Yoruba from north. He did not. It is a disappoint he did not pick Bukola saraki. But we do not intend to wait. And I can tell you, the north are not ready to wait to.

So if Obasanjo run for 8 years, so are you saying no yorubaman should ever rule. That is nonsense. So you are saying the fulani/hausa must wait till 2056 before a fulani/hausa would be president since Yar adua was a fulani/hausa. You are dreaming. The Yorubas are not ready to wait till 2048 and the fulani/hausa are not ready to wait till 2056. And I can boldly say it on behalf of every fulani/hausa man die or alive. even I can say it on behalf of the sultan of sokoto. emir of kano . The Yorubas are not ready to wait till 2048 and the fulani/hausa are not ready to wait till 2056

becomrich7:

Ajali where are you from. People vote for thier ethnics in election in nigeria. You can see the satellite pictures why? how the yorubas have been cheated. And the other ethnics group refuse to correct the injustice.  And do you think the Yorubas are going to vote for a party, who did that to them. It is hard for the Yorubas to vote for the PDP again. Look the PDP have been deceiving the Yorubas for the last 3 years. to correct the Injustice.