chidichris:

our problem is not islam but our kind of justice(selective justice). the yarima in question is just one out of over 50 million yarimas in nigeria and in our senate and aso rock.
non of the senators has the moral standard to judge this particular yarima.
visit all the hotels in abuja and u will see that almost all the senators and politicians have girls kept in those hotels.
the problem with this yarima is that he made his legal. what about those who are buying houses and lands, giving our govt cars and properties to their female friends?
obj slept with his daughter inlaw and no one shout because he is a christain. is it biblical for fathers to sleep with their daughter inlaws or is it in our constitution for fathers to sleep with their daughter inlaw? tell me now, how can obj look yarima in the face and tell him, man u fcked up?
we have more than 1 million constitutions in nigeria and cases are treated according to who u are. if obj had been treated like the dog he presented himself to be then, today the yarimas of our time will defintely have no reason not to go down.
nigerians must stop favourism and godfatherism if we must move forward.
let us leave yarima the way we left obj as both men are nigerians and shld have equal right and justice.
many nigerians are dying in jail today just because they looked at women or accused wrongly but here we have an obj and a yarima who openly misbehaved and they are rulers. shame to this thing we call our country.
all i am saying here is that it is not only about the muslims but also the christians.
if u must commit a crime in nigeria and go free, let it not be a crime against the pdp cabals as for the constitution, we have non.

LeoMax:

I WANT TO MARRY YE RIMA'S 13 YEARS OLD DAUGHTER, WILL HE ACCEPT ?

i WILL OFFER 100 THOUSAND NAIRA I DO NT HAVE DOLLARS[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

Dude, you're not far from the truth. Evil occurs on both sides

The only difference is this: You'll find most muslims saying it's not wrong to marry an underraged girl while almost all christians frown at it

So, basically it's a thing of religion, simple

Confusion:

Is yerimama a senator in the Nigeria senate or in the sharia senate
pls someone should tell him to go and be a cleric in the sharia court
misappropriaton of mind,brain and living

bashdecash:

@ Buffo,
1- the marriage can take place anywhere. a colleague of mine did her wedding in the vatican.

2- MATURITY in your own definition is not wt it means, ability to have intimacy comfortably is wt it means. VVF is NOT just as a result of early mariage, u can ask your mum cos my mum told me that she got married at 14 as a fulani.

3- wt u term common knowledge is wt i dont understand.

4- i hope u understand the difference between a religious RULINGS and BREAKING it. may be d GAY catholic priest got their licence from their religion i dont know.

5- of course it happens everywhere but should we back it? Besides, we all know that it is not so common here. u can ascertain that a large percentage of corpers from the North are still virgins till they reach the camp (i took my statistics 2005).

True Naija:

@ bashdecash
i hope u understand the difference between a religious RULINGS and BREAKING it. may be d GAY catholic priest got their licence from their religion i dont know.

You see that is the difference, the whole world had condemned the act of the  priest. Late Pope John Paul and Pope Benedict have been apologisng to the abused people as long as anyone can remember abi Nairalanders. The Catholic Church in the US has paid milions of dollars as compensation as to victims. The Catholic Church has admitted that it had a moral issue on its hand. Caused by a minority who are human beings and have failings.  That is a clear example of admitting wrongdoing, taking responsibility and being remorseful. With this the problem will be eradicated.

Why can't this happen in Yerima's case people who should really speak up are keeping quiet cos they do not want to rock the boat. Of course their own daughters will have a postgraduate from Oxford or Harvard before any man can come near them. In this case the problem can only continue.

Bringing the past does not justify anything. The Bible and Koran talked about slaves centuries ago. Why don't we still have slaves  (not illegal trafficking) working for the rich and being whipped? The answer is as the world moves forward human nature is supposed to let go of barbaric behaviours.

I have a friend from a West African country (which has a 70% Muslim population)  who shamefully admitted that in his country the alcohol sales drop drastically during Ramadan. Some times you have to be honest, frank and condemn whats condemnable at the expense of religion, ethnicity, culture or whatever.

The point I am making there are always an insignificant few who would always want do something silly.  We should focus on that problem and not try to protect  inhuman acts.

Think about ------------------ with a 13 year old girl. The thought can make one throw up.

All religions have their problems o. You can't claim the Muslim world is chaste Go to Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia and see whats happening.
Try clubbing in Tunisia or Morocco the nice arab girls can follow you home if u buy them a drink. Don't get me started on the randy Arab princes in the middle east. Do you the know Afghani men and warlords have wives at home but boyfriends/sissy's on the street or in their battalion.
We live in a world full of evil. The point the majority is making on this forum is that NO CHILD be it Egyptian, Nigerian or from Planet Neptune should be taken advantage of. End of

chidichris:

our problem is not islam but our kind of justice(selective justice). the yarima in question is just one out of over 50 million yarimas in nigeria and in our senate and aso rock.
non of the senators has the moral standard to judge this particular yarima.
visit all the hotels in abuja and u will see that almost all the senators and politicians have girls kept in those hotels.
the problem with this yarima is that he made his legal. what about those who are buying houses and lands, giving our govt cars and properties to their female friends?
obj slept with his daughter inlaw and no one shout because he is a christain. is it biblical for fathers to sleep with their daughter inlaws or is it in our constitution for fathers to sleep with their daughter inlaw? tell me now, how can obj look yarima in the face and tell him, man u fcked up?
we have more than 1 million constitutions in nigeria and cases are treated according to who u are. if obj had been treated like the dog he presented himself to be then, today the yarimas of our time will defintely have no reason not to go down.
nigerians must stop favourism and godfatherism if we must move forward.
let us leave yarima the way we left obj as both men are nigerians and shld have equal right and justice.
many nigerians are dying in jail today just because they looked at women or accused wrongly but here we have an obj and a yarima who openly misbehaved and they are rulers. shame to this thing we call our country.
all i am saying here is that it is not only about the muslims but also the christians.
if u must commit a crime in nigeria and go free, let it not be a crime against the pdp cabals as for the constitution, we have non.

illusion2:

[size=18pt]@chidichris,your reasoning vis a vis OBJ & Yerima is slightly skewed,

1. OBJ is alledged to have slept with his daughter-in-law. . . .nothing so far proved,the woman denied it (so right now its purely innuendo).- Yerima on the other hand confirms he married this Egyptian girl

2. Lets assume OBJ did indeed sleep with his daughter-in-law
        a. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids this - Nigerian law in Abuja forbids marriage to under-18 girls.
        b. OBJ has not come out to say his religion permits him to sleep his his daughter-in-law - Yerima claims his religion gives him all the right to     marry this lady.


Finally lets stop all the false rationalising,because he (Yerima) comes publicly rather than 'pretend' like other senators (according to you) does not make it right .

By the way who told you Yerima doesn't have other concubines??

Are you aware he divorced his recently married teenage wife as well? This excludes his existing 3 other wives.

The question I ask is ,is  his entire life meant to be spent marrying?? When will he try to make a difference in the lives of his people?

Learn to call a spade a spade my friend.[/size]

Finally, we are calling on all Muslims intending to marry any child or woman of their choice to go on because Islam allows that. Enough is enough."

Speechless!!!

bashdecash:

@Buffox,

i like your replies but i still want u to get me right. PERSON ALLY, none of my sisters or daughters will be given out to marriage at such tender age but we are talking abt wt islam says. is left 4 me to do wt i can be able to do and not criticise those who contradicted me in as much as dey are within the islamic injunctions.

A member house of reps still in service gave out his sister at the age of 10 around that 2004/2005 and nobody raised an eyebrow in Kaduna cos we understand that it is his right (islamically).

ALL WE ARE SAYING IS, WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE INTERFERING INTO ISLAMIC JURISPRUDENCE WHEN THEY DONT REALLY NEED TO. ISLAM DOES NOT CHANGE WITH TIME, SOCIETY, GENERATION OR THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

MsTom:

My point exactly. If you believe in the sharia way of life, live it to the core. Not only when it is time for marriage that you believe in sharia while all these while you are ruling/living using the western ideology. If he wants to go sharia, let him resign as a senator and be governed by the sharia law where the people would support his actions. But now as a senator in Nigeria, we the people are against his actions and hence should face the consequence. Nigeria is not governed by the sharia law. It is that simple.

sevule:

Thank goodness stupidity is not against the Nigerian constitution otherwise Bashdecash would have been in jail. Let me say something very clearly, Nigeria is a secular state that promotes freedom of religion but when you break the law as Yerima did you ought to face the consequences. So if my religion say traditional african religion allows ritual killing do we then say because my religion allows ritual killing and the Nigerian constitution allows freedom of religion then it is okay for me to go out and cut off a few heads?? People like bashdecash that use religion as a convenient excuse for wrong doing make me sick.

@chidichris,your reasoning vis a vis OBJ & Yerima is slightly skewed,

1. OBJ is alledged to have slept with his daughter-in-law. . . .nothing so far proved,the woman denied it (so right now its purely innuendo).- Yerima on the other hand confirms he married this Egyptian girl

2. Lets assume OBJ did indeed sleep with his daughter-in-law
        a. There's nothing in the constitution that forbids this - Nigerian law in Abuja forbids marriage to under-18 girls.
        b. OBJ has not come out to say his religion permits him to sleep his his daughter-in-law - Yerima claims his religion gives him all the right to     marry this lady.


Finally lets stop all the false rationalising,because he (Yerima) comes publicly rather than 'pretend' like other senators (according to you) does not make it right .

By the way who told you Yerima doesn't have other concubines??

Are you aware he divorced his recently married teenage wife as well? This excludes his existing 3 other wives.

The question I ask is ,is  his entire life meant to be spent marrying?? When will he try to make a difference in the lives of his people?

Learn to call a spade a spade my friend.

anataala:

YOUR POEPLE ARE ILLETRATE, FACE your RELIGION URE ARE XRISTIAN FOLLOW WHAT your RELIGION IS TEACHING, OUR TEACHINGS ARE DIFFERENT, SINCE MOLESTING AND intimacy WITH LITTLTE KIDS IN THE CHURCH IS ALLOWED BY SO CALLED REV FATHERS, so try and and clean your selves b4 u start assulting some one, and thank GOD we are marrying our fellow muslims, pls mind your bussiness, u dont have right over our religion, we have not insulting u when the whole world is aware of what the leaders of your reliogion are doing in the church which i believe is legalise, i guess u understand intimacy scandals, so xristianity legalise adultration, what a shame

bashdecash:

@sevule,

tell me one religion not culture that allows ritual killing? so, just mind the way u set examples ok?

remember, nobody is saying that Yerima is a saint, all we are saying is wt he did is LEGAL according to islamic law and we have to learn to live with it period.