jamace:

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Are the kidnappers going after the first person in sight?.

You were the one advocating anarchy to correct perceived societal ills.

Kidnappers no longer discriminate when it comes to their victims. These have included few months old babies to 90 plus great grand parents.

The main drive for kidnapping remains seemingly EASY AND QUICK MONEY and nothing else. This money is not given back to the poor, ill, orphans etc. Rather these hoodlums live an extravagant lifestyles and spend their loot on women, booze and fast cars. How are they different from the politicians they are fighting against?

oyb:

i see. . .the state of things in abia is society checking itself, not so ?

i think some people need to have their family members kidnapped - then all these romantic delusions about kidnappers being some sort of scarelet pimpernels will disappear.

so its only Abia that is affected?abi r u in exile?

snowdrops:

So should we all arm ourselves and run into the streets slaughtering the first person in sight?

def not!!d way things r now, we just pray dat we r not d ones affected. . .when armed robbery bagan 2 take its position in d society,every nigerian was praying dat he/she would not be affected,likewise,as kidnapping is taking its position in d society,we should do what we have always done. . .we'll soon get used 2 it just d way we r used 2 reading in d papers how armed robbers attack banks e.t.c

so we should basically put up and shut up. no surprises as your "logo" says it all, UNTIL BLOOD IS SPILLED IN NIGERIA NOTHING WILL CHANGE"

snowdrops:

You were the one advocating anarchy to correct perceived societal ills.

Kidnappers no longer discriminate when it comes to their victims. These have included few months old babies to 90 plus great grand parents.

The main drive for kidnapping remains seemingly EASY AND QUICK MONEY and nothing else. This money is not given back to the poor, ill, orphans etc. Rather these hoodlums live an extravagant lifestyles and spend their loot on women, booze and fast cars. How are they different from the politicians they are fighting against?

Dat was my point in my early post. . .just d same way armed robbers r running after quick cash,some peeps simply took advantage of d lawless society,2 carve out another way 2 quick success. . .so its just a continuation of what has been. . .
they r not fighting against any politician,rather they r only trying 2 "mimick" what their leaders are doing. . .fast cars,houses,bank accounts,women,booze e.t.c

snowdrops:

so we should basically put up and shut up. no surprises as your "logo" says it all, UNTIL BLOOD IS SPILLED IN NIGERIA NOTHING WILL CHANGE"

LMAO . . .my broda,dat is d only option we have,if we want our country 2 change

philip0906:

Dat was my point in my early post. . .just d same way armed robbers r running after quick cash,some peeps simply took advantage of d lawless society,2 carve out another way 2 quick success. . .so its just a continuation of what has been. . .
they r not fighting against any politician,rather they r only trying 2 "mimick" what their leaders are doing. . .fast cars,houses,bank accounts,women,booze e.t.c

Exactly. Its the same lawlessness that has allowed the politicians to thrive in corruption.

The truth remains that until the rule of law is enforced strictly without bias or favour the utopia of a crime free/near-free society will remain a mirage.

Frankly speaking, in my present  mood of bottled anger and bitterness against the maladministration of our leaders, I don't know whether to praise or condemn these kidnappers. All I can say is that when leadership fails, the society checks itself by other means, either formally or informally.

Why are you mentioning Abia State only? Are you a stranger in Nigeria?

so its only Abia that is affected?abi r u in exile?

no offense, but today, going by reports in the media, abia has become nigeria's kidnap state - based on the topmost quote, everything going on there is society checking itself

your "logo" says it all, UNTIL BLOOD IS SPILLED IN NIGERIA NOTHING WILL CHANGE"

i guess the blood in jos, the blood in the frequent religion riots up north, the blood from the pogroms etal does not count

I agree. They should be executed, but not by hanging. Instead, it should be public execution. One bullet. Either. .
1. Directly at the face, in between the brow.
OR. . .
2. The back of the neck. At the base of the skull.

I prefer #2 more though.

@ topic: All crimes proven beyond doubt should be met with capital punishment, starting from our leaders!

snowdrops:

Both the kidnappers and the police men that aid and abet them should all be executed by hanging. They should die slowly and painfully by hanging or lethal injection.
Until a zero tolerance approach is used this menace will not stop.

If you guys use corrupt politician as justification for kidnapping then thats the most sad excuse.

supported !!!

You were the one advocating anarchy to correct perceived societal ills.

Kidnappers no longer discriminate when it comes to their victims. These have included few months old babies to 90 plus great grand parents.

The main drive for kidnapping remains seemingly EASY AND QUICK MONEY and nothing else. This money is not given back to the poor, ill, orphans etc. Rather these hoodlums live an extravagant lifestyles and spend their loot on women, booze and fast cars. How are they different from the politicians they are fighting against?

How do you compare what our politicians are doing with your highlighted statement above?

oyb
i guess the blood in jos, the blood in the frequent religion riots up north, the blood from the pogroms etal does not count

so what happened in d north is equal 2 a revo? When i say "spill blood" I'm not talking of a meaningless and unjustified cause like what happened in d north. . .Revolution means a radical change in a govt(basic definition).what happened in d north is not a revolution,but a crisis.

philip0906:


so what happened in d north is equal 2 a revo? When i say "spill blood" I'm not talking of a meaningless and unjustified cause like what happened in d north. . .Revolution means a radical change in a govt(basic definition).what happened in d north is not a revolution,but a crisis.

in the final anaylsis that is what most african "revolutions" are - crisies

oyb:

in the final anaylsis that is what most african "revolutions" are - crisies

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh! U used most not all, good. If Ghana can do it, we can do it better!

^^^^^^

there was a radical change in governement in ghana? did i miss it?

the people rose and toppled the government?

kabila toppled mobutu seseko
taylor toppled samuel doe
the ruf laid waste to sierra leone
we have the lla in congo

those are african revolutionaries - thats what you're campaigning for, if you don't know

oyb:

^^^^^^

there was a radical change in governement in ghana? did i miss it?

the people rose and toppled the government?

kabila toppled mobutu seseko
taylor toppled samuel doe
the ruf laid waste to sierra leone
we have the lla in congo

those are african revolutionaries - thats what you're campaigning for, if you don't know

I referenced Ghana not that list of countries you've got up there. Pray tell, what would you call what Rawlings did in Ghana?

^^

you think a sitting head of state rounding up former leaders and executing them is a revolution    you call that people power

actually, its called a purge - stalin did a lot of that in his time, though iit was of his percieved enemies


we had an administration/junta that tried to do just that idiagbon/buhari

and sadly nigerians were very happy to see them go

snowdrops:

Whether they kill their victim or not, it is a crime that is causing wide spread panic and insecurity in the country. It threatens the existence of Nigeria and this brutality has to be countered with force it deserves.

Death penalty for kidnappers end of.

No!!!! Dealth penalty should be uzsed for a more gruesome crime.


It is not appropriate for kidnapping. Are you assuming that some more grave crimes like looting, murder, and robbery does not spread panic and insecurity in Nigeria? Are those suspects killed?

I think a few should be killed first then the rest would follow suit

Ileke-IdI:

It is not appropriate for kidnapping. Are you assuming that some more grave crimes like looting, murder, and robbery does not spread panic and insecurity in Nigeria? Are those suspects killed?

I don't understand why you're winding yourself up like this. No one said that capital pusnishment cannot be used for those, but understand that the topic is specifically about kidnapping. Not kidnapping in relation to other crimes. Just kidnapping, and as such, no one is here to talk about those other crimes. We're just here to say yes/no to the execution of kidnappers. Me, I vote a resounding yes, and I've also offered up preferred ways of going about it.

Ileke-IdI:

No!!!! Dealth penalty should be uzsed for a more gruesome crime.


It is not appropriate for kidnapping. Are you assuming that some more grave crimes like looting, murder, and robbery does not spread panic and insecurity in Nigeria? Are those suspects killed?

how on earth would you consider kidnapping as a lesser crime to looting.invariably,it's like looting a live human being if you dont know and in some cases,the victims get killed.abeg,they should be killed to serve as deterent to others.

ChinenyeN:

I don't understand why you're winding yourself up like this. No one said that capital pusnishment cannot be used for those, but understand that the topic is specifically about kidnapping. Not kidnapping in relation to other crimes. Just kidnapping, and as such, no one is here to talk about those other crimes. We're just here to say yes/no to the execution of kidnappers. Me, I vote a resounding yes, and I've also offered up preferred ways of going about it.

Of course I have to to compare.

The highest level of punishment for kidnapping should lengthy prison term. If harsher crimes out there DONT warrant prison term, why should capital punishment justify kidnapping.

~Bluetooth:

how on earth would you consider kidnapping as a lesser crime to looting.invariably,it's like looting a live human being if you dont know and in some cases,the victims get killed.abeg,they should be killed to serve as deterrent to others.

Many things are directly and indirectly connected to looting. All those money could have helped hungry society, suffering society, education system, economy etc. The #9b that was looted a few weeks ago by a politician could have been used to fix the roads, would have prevented motorcycle accident lol.  Most of these kidnappers are from Aba, heard that one of the kidnapping cases was about a politician being kidnapped and forced to "right" the nation. I dont think that kidnapper deserves a capital sent.

"A witch cries today, a baby dies tomorrow".

Ileke-IdI:

Of course I have to to compare.

The highest level of punishment for kidnapping should lengthy prison term. If harsher crimes out there DONT warrant prison term, why should capital punishment justify kidnapping.

Okay, then I guess.

Ileke-IdI:

No!!!! Dealth penalty should be uzsed for a more gruesome crime.


It is not appropriate for kidnapping. Are you assuming that some more grave crimes like looting, murder, and robbery does not spread panic and insecurity in Nigeria? Are those suspects killed?

I am completely speechless. Do you know that a 6 month old baby had been kidnapped in Nigeria. How more gruesome do you expect a crime to be? Some of the victims have also been murdered. The very first high profile person kidnapped in Benin was killed by his abductors.

Stop being ridiculous and get you facts right, please. Being kidnapped is a really horrible experience not only for the victim but also the family.

oyb
^^^^^^

there was a radical change in governement in ghana? did i miss it?

the people rose and toppled the government?

kabila toppled mobutu seseko
taylor toppled samuel doe
the ruf laid waste to sierra leone
we have the lla in congo

those are african revolutionaries - thats what you're campaigning for, if you don't know

mind u,a revo does not have 2 be a crowd. . .like dat of china,it could be a single person
leading but with support from others

snowdrops:

I am completely speechless. Do you know that a 6 month old baby had been kidnapped in Nigeria. How more gruesome do you expect a crime to be? Some of the victims have also been murdered. The very first high profile person kidnapped in Benin was killed by his abductors.

Stop being ridiculous and get you facts right, please. Being kidnapped is a really horrible experience not only for the victim but also the family.

Like I said on my first post, the sentencing should justify the crime. if any victim is killed, then the kidnapper should be given a sentence that levels with his crime. Not all victims are killed. Nigerians are always looking for any reason to take someones life. Capital punishment ko national punishment ni.


My facts are str8. You're acting like I'm asking for the crime to go unpunished.

Ileke-IdI:

Like I said on my first post, the sentencing should justify the crime. if any victim is killed, then the kidnapper should be given a sentence that levels with his crime. Not all victims are killed. Nigerians are always looking for any reason to take someones life. Capital punishment ko national punishment ni.


My facts are str8. You're acting like I'm asking for the crime to go unpunished.

i can infer you have got a soft spot for kidnappers hence why are you defending their rights to stay alive?


People are scared for their lives especially in the south south and east. You live your house in the morning and don't know if you would return. What kind of existence is that? Do you reside in the east?

Anybody in the current Nigeria as we know it that forcefully takes an innocent person and demands for a ransom in return as far as i am concerned has forfeited his/her rights to life.

Ileke-IdI:

Like I said on my first post, the sentencing should justify the crime. if any victim is killed, then the kidnapper should be given a sentence that levels with his crime. Not all victims are killed. Nigerians are always looking for any reason to take someones life. Capital punishment ko national punishment ni.


My facts are str8. You're acting like I'm asking for the crime to go unpunished.

not all victims are killed abi ? Do you think an arrested kidnapper would tell the presiding judge that he has once committed ? Your arguements are shaky.the fact remains that kidnapping falls under capital offence where murder and armed robbery are categorized,so isolating kidnapping from the list is not a better option.A kidnapper could have kidnapped to kill,so you can say what the motive of such person could be.

~Bluetooth:

not all victims are killed abi ? Do you think an arrested kidnapper would tell the presiding judge that he has once committed ? Your arguements are shaky.the fact remains that kidnapping falls under capital offence where murder and armed robbery are categorized,so isolating kidnapping from the list is not a better option.A kidnapper could have kidnapped to kill,so you can say what the motive of such person could be.

snowdrops:

i can infer you have got a soft spot for kidnappers hence why are you defending their rights to stay alive?


People are scared for their lives especially in the south south and east. You live your house in the morning and don't know if you would return. What kind of existence is that? Do you reside in the east?

Anybody in the current Nigeria as we know it that forcefully takes an innocent person and demands for a ransom in return as far as i am concerned has forfeited his/her rights to life.

We all have our opinions. I've justified mines and I'm not stepping aside.

Kidnappers should not be killed. Period .

Goverments of Rivers, Abia and Imo states have made kiddnapping offence punitiable by death . Supported.
Already, some kidnappers in Imo and Abia states have been shot dead. More waiting execution.

Andre Uweh:

Goverments of Rivers, Abia and Imo states have made kiddnapping offence punitiable by death . Supported.
Already, some kidnappers in Imo and Abia states have been shot dead. More waiting execution.

Shameful. A woman has lost her child.

For those that did not harm to their victims, I feel that this is unfair.

Andre Uweh:

Goverments of Rivers, Abia and Imo states have made kiddnapping offence punitiable by death . Supported.
Already, some kidnappers in Imo and Abia states have been shot dead. More waiting execution.

That is fantastic news. Hopefully more states will follow suit.