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Poll: If you have to choose between IBB and OBJ:I'll choose IBB: 24% (62 votes)I'll choose OBJ: 75% (190 votes) This poll has ended |
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Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by spearman(m): 4:20pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
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Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by dejiariyo1: 4:20pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Obasanjo met the petrol price 14 naira and he left it 75 naira without meaningful impacts in the lives of Nigerians, In 1999 when obasanjo left the prison he was owing 200,000 naira paid by Atiku and 8 years later, 0ta farm is worth 20billion naira, are you guys actually sane? You all get deceived by this stupid fool who called himself Obasanjo, to hell with him and his supporters, listen to fela songs and you will know how bad and cruel this guy is. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by dejiariyo1: 4:22pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
spearman: I guess you lots forgot Obasanjo was once the military president after he killed murtala and overthrown him, ask maybe ur father who Ali must go is, maybe you will know more about this devil called Obasanjo |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by ogazi007(m): 4:31pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Obj has no moral temerity to cast aspersion at any corrupt leader in Nigeria.he is the biggest thief of all time.he had every opportunity to write his name in African history book that contain the name of a living legend like MANDELA,instead he decided to trow tax payers money around to some useless senators and rep members for show of shame they demonstrated during his THIRD TERM SAGA.he should come and account for billions of dollars he has embezzled when he appointed himself as the minister of Petroleum.he has no respect for the rule of law and he imposed shaky shaky president and vice president on Nigerians.he should keep quiet and allow good and sincere leaders like soyinka and Buhari to pass judgment on our corrupt leaders. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Olaolufred(m): 4:37pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
[b]Naira Exchange Rates 1970 - 1999 Year 1 Dollar = Naira Equivalent 1 Pound = Naira Equivalent 1970 0.7143 1.7114 1971 0.6955 1.7156 1972 0.6579 1.6289 1973 0.6579 1.6289 1974 0.6299 1.4795 1975 0.6159 1.3678 1976 0.6265 1.1317 1977 0.6466 1.1671 1978 0.6060 1.2238 1979 0.5957 1.2628 1980 0.5464 (0.9 PMER) 1.2647 1981 0.6100 1.2495 1982 0.6729 1.1734 1983 0.7241 1.1216 1984 0.7649 1.0765 1985 0.8938 (1.7 PMER) 1.1999 1986 2.0206 (3.9 PMER) 2.5554 1987 4.0179 (5.9 PMER) 6.5929 1988 4.5367 (6.7 PMER) 8.0895 1989 7.3916 (10.7 PMER) 12.0695 1990 8.0378 (9.3 PMER) 16.2419 1991 9.9095 (16.7 PMER) 17.4955 1992 17.2984 (21.9 PMER) 27.8684 1993 22.3268 (56.8 PMER ) 33.2522 1994 21.8861 (71.7 PMER) 33.4252 1995 21.8861 (78.3 PMER) 34.7111 1996 21.8861 (81.8 PMER) 35.7368 1997 21.8861 (84.7 PMER) 35.7368 1998 21.8861 (88.0-90.0 PMER) 35.7368 1999 85.9800 (105.0 PMER) 137.4680 [/b] Table 11.7 Crude Oil Prices by Selected Type, 1970-2010 (Dollars 1 per Barrel) Year Saudi Arabian Light-34 API Iranian Light-34 API Libyan 2 Es Sider-37 API Nigerian 3 Bonny Light-37 API Indonesian Minas-34 API Venezuelan Tia Juana Light 4 Mexico Maya-22 API United Kingdom Brent Blend-38 API [b]Year S/Arabia Iran Libyan Nigeria Indonesia Venezula Mexico UK 1970 1.35 1.36 2.09 2.10 1.67 2.05 NA NA 1971 1.75 1.76 2.80 2.65 2.18 2.45 NA NA 1972 1.90 1.91 2.80 2.80 2.96 2.45 NA NA 1973 2.10 2.11 3.10 3.10 2.96 2.60 NA NA 1974 9.60 10.63 14.30 12.60 10.80 9.30 NA NA 1975 10.46 10.67 11.98 11.80 12.60 11.00 NA NA 1976 11.51 11.62 12.21 12.84 12.80 11.12 NA NA 1977 12.09 12.81 13.74 14.33 13.55 12.72 NA NA 1978 12.70 12.81 13.80 14.33 13.55 12.82 NA NA 1979 13.34 13.45 14.52 14.80 13.90 13.36 15.45 15.70 1980 26.00 5 30.37 34.50 29.97 27.50 25.20 28.00 26.02 1981 32.00 37.00 40.78 40.00 35.00 32.88 34.50 39.25 1982 34.00 34.20 36.50 36.50 35.00 32.88 26.50 36.60 1983 34.00 31.20 35.10 35.50 34.53 32.88 25.50 33.50 1984 29.00 28.00 30.15 30.00 29.53 27.88 25.00 30.00 1985 29.00 28.00 30.15 28.00 29.53 27.88 25.50 28.65 1986 28.00 28.05 30.15 28.65 28.53 28.05 21.93 26.00 1987 16.15 16.14 16.95 17.13 16.28 15.10 14.00 18.25 1988 17.52 15.55 18.52 18.92 17.56 17.62 11.10 18.00 1989 13.15 12.75 15.40 15.05 15.50 12.27 10.63 15.80 1990 18.40 18.20 20.40 21.20 18.55 24.69 17.05 21.00 1991 24.00 23.65 26.90 27.80 26.50 28.62 20.00 27.20 1992 15.90 15.50 17.20 18.20 18.65 19.67 10.75 17.75 1993 16.80 16.70 17.55 18.50 19.10 17.97 12.50 17.90 1994 12.40 12.40 12.55 13.50 14.15 12.97 9.01 13.15 1995 16.63 16.18 16.05 16.15 16.95 16.57 13.77 16.15 1996 18.20 17.73 19.20 19.70 20.05 18.52 15.79 19.37 1997 22.98 22.63 24.10 24.65 24.95 26.62 19.33 24.05 1998 15.50 14.93 16.72 16.50 16.50 15.93 10.81 15.89 1999 10.03 9.83 10.65 10.60 9.95 9.45 6.38 10.44 2000 24.78 24.63 25.85 25.55 24.15 24.85 20.20 25.10 2001 20.30 20.20 22.40 22.00 22.80 22.13 15.82 22.50 2002 17.68 18.90 19.63 19.88 18.89 17.78 14.30 21.20 2003 27.39 27.85 30.40 31.16 35.03 30.25 26.29 31.36 2004 27.08 28.67 29.47 29.97 32.10 30.10 24.37 29.73 2005 31.86 33.84 38.00 38.21 35.86 35.98 26.16 39.43 2006 50.86 52.56 55.89 56.97 53.95 52.52 42.93 57.25 2007 55.94 56.28 59.22 63.28 63.87 55.57 46.98 60.50 2008 93.02 94.96 96.79 98.52 98.34 93.85 82.78 98.42 2009 35.21 35.31 36.66 39.85 36.63 35.42 29.53 34.33 2010 75.21 74.94 76.73 77.69 79.97 76.11 70.80 77.27[/b] From the Attached Info. OBJ in 1975 to 1979 has Naira to dollar value appreciated from 0.6159 per USD to 0.5957 per USD. This is about 3.3% Appreciation. Average Crude Oil Price per Barrel for this same period is 13.62 USD. IBB in 1985 to 1993 has Naira to dollar value depreciated from 0.8938 per USD to 22.32 per USD. This is about 2400% Depreciation in Value. Average Crude Oil price per Barrel for this same period is 21.49USD OBJ in 1999 to 2007 has Naira to dollar value depreciated from 85.98 per USD to 128.00 per USD. This is about 49% Depreciation. Average Crude Oil Price per Barrel for this same period is 33.07 USD. I think the result from this should speak for itself. Any IBB boys with stronger reason is welcomed on board. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by nenyong: 4:40pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
IBB is not suppose to be coming out to context as a presidential aspirant. Because he spend eight as a military president and he annualled June 12 election. Can we trust him with our votes? Someone should advise him to step aside. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by dejiariyo1: 4:42pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Olaolufred: This just show how narrow Nigerians are, we all angry that these guys are evil and bad for the society but instead of trying to do away with them both we are looking for the one who stole less or who did better while doing the evil deeds they committed, SMH Both of them are not even meant to be in public anymore but Nigeria society has being bastardized that good pple like wole soyinka and chinu achebe are push to the sides and these fools are the ones making headlines, SMH alll over again |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by oluclem(m): 4:49pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Both of them are tragedy to our great nation
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Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by omojand: 4:52pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
I love OBJ, I don't think many could have done beta in his shoes, it mustn't have been easy all those dogs scrambling for positions to gorge themselves on and he keeping them at bay. I still no gree say the Otta farmer stole TOO MUCH or any degree comparable to IBB's. Very true. OBJ is grossly misunderstood. He made mistakes yes. But majority of people criticising him base their conclusions on opinions expressed in the Sun newspaper. He did not steal anywhere near as much as any of the leaders before him (with the exception of Buhari perhaps). |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Meldrick(m): 4:56pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
truly: Ohhhh, I hope you are not re-counting the death of Dele Giwa, Gloria Okon, Vatsa as achievements of IBB. Be careful |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Olaolufred(m): 5:02pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
deji.ariyo: Deji.Ariyo, You thinking is as good as mine. OBJ is a thief compare to Gowon, but a saint compare to IBB. When not compare to anyone, he remain a thief. But you shoul note that OBJ is out of the show now. He can not rule Nigeria again. But also, what would IBB who did sooooo badly still be thinking of doing in power? I am not an OBJ fan, but IBB boys should know that we can not be fooled. I repeat, If they have stronger reason, they should showcase it to the world. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by biozy(m): 5:06pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
any supporter of IBB is my enemy! once beaten twice angry! |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Olaolufred(m): 5:12pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Note: For the first time in 1980, PMER(Parrallel Market Exchange Rate) surfaced in Nigeria. Between 1981 and 1984, it vanished. But as soon as Maradondo got power, PMER becomes a lucrative business, Why? Maradondo knows all the gimmicks he played to bring Nigeria to where we are today. But for IBB boys, We ( Nigerians) can not be fooled the second time. Can he eat his cake and have it? Nooooooooooooooooooooooo. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by MRD1(m): 5:18pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
@ post both of them should go and hide in shame |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Olaolufred(m): 5:22pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
spearman: In Nigeria, New trends are always traceable to a championate. Fuji may be Barristar Juju to Sunny Afro Juju to Shina Peters Pop music to may be Okotie Commedy business to Ali Baba. Corruption is unarguably for IBB. Even IBB supporter's dead parents will get this if given the question in heavenly UTME. But pitiable that their living children still dont understand. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by kildran: 5:35pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
OBJ was a poor politician, vindictive, sometimes ill tempered, but he still remains Nigeria's best president till date. Though some may argue that the good policies under OBJ were engineered by El-Rufai (But then U still have to credit him at least for recruiting a good hand). |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by vicknesh: 5:45pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
IBB BUILD FIVE UNIVERSITIES OF TECHNOLOGY - YOLA, MINNA, OWERRI,AKURE,BAUCHI IBB ALSO BUILD PORTHARCOURT REFINERY, AJAOKUTA STEEL KAINJI AND SHIRORO THIRD MAINLAND BRIDGE, ABUJA ETC OBJ WHERE IS YOUR WORK |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by kildran: 5:50pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
@Truly I totally understand yr position and your anger may be justified, considering that the south east did not much benefit from the little growth we had during the OBJ years, but you still cannot argue with confidence that OBJ was a bad president. This is a guy that made sure we paid our debts, saved 20 billion dollars within 8 years from the excess cude account. All of which Yardaua spent in 2 years, and we are now owing again (But we don't speak ill of the dead). I personally believe that OBJ made these comments to pave way for his annointed (GEJ) whic to me is counterproductive, considering the fact that GEJ seems clueless. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by kildran: 5:55pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
@Vicknesh People like you don't understand the work of government, which is to create the enabling environment with adequate programs and legislation. It is not the work of government to start companies that they cannot manage (Government should get out of business completely). Which of the stuff either Universities or refineries will not fare better if handled by private firms. They easily deceive people like you with a few projects, which are intended to siphon money. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by cjfavour(m): 5:59pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
why is this pot calling this kettle black? I cannot and will not choose between the two loters. Two of a kind. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by ZUBBYNWA(m): 6:03pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
vicknesh: Your Mama there, thunder fire you and IBB |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Nobody: 6:13pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
If a lot of people still prefer Obj to IBB,then IBB is a taboo to Nigeria which we must stop by all means. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Tadeus(m): 6:14pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Nigerian Politics is nothing but comedy section, Who knows who is tellin d truth among d Nigerian's former head of state |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by MaziUche0(m): 6:20pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Crap v. Crap Why should we compare the two when they are both the same? |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Nobody: 6:23pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
MaziUche0: |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Tadeus(m): 6:26pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Personally, im my own perspective, I think OBJ had done his best to develop and strengthen our economy to meet international standard, OBJ was the first military head of state that welcomed civilian rule in 1979, lots of achievement from 1975-79. Although, OBJ was not totally perfect, but He was still the best Former head of state that Nigerian has ever produced regardless of all his mistakes, |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by vicknesh: 6:34pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
ZUBBYNWA:U SEEM TO LIKE OBJ BECAUSE HE IS ALSO FUCKING YOUR MOTHER THE WAY HE WAS FUCKING GBENGA HIS SONS WIFE, ANYWAY MY REGARD TO YOUR MUM I WONDER IF SHE COULD TRY YOUNG DICK LIKE MINE, ? |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by vicknesh: 6:38pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
ZUBBYNWA:U SEEM TO LIKE OBJ BECAUSE HE IS ALSO FUCKING YOUR MOTHER THE WAY HE WAS FUCKING GBENGA HIS SONS WIFE, ANYWAY MY REGARD TO YOUR MUM I WONDER IF SHE COULD TRY YOUNG DICK LIKE MINE, ? |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by akwaowoudo(m): 6:38pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
From a concrete perspective, the duo have their native from one flock and fold but IBB is a bundle of damages. Nothing good about him; not to mention his offspring _ gravely dangerous. |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by dayokanu(m): 6:39pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
OBJ is the worst. I think he is at par with IBB Have people forgotten the $16bn for Power project? Odi and Zaki Biam? Bola Ige? OBJ and IBB are curses to this nation Who said IBB brought corruption? Have you heard Felas song about 2.8bn Naira Oil money missing? That was 2.8 billion naira when naira was equal to Dollar. I believe 2.8 bn In 1979 = $12bn in 1992 when you factor inflation |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by vicknesh: 6:52pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
DURING OBASANJOS FIRST TENURE FELAS MOTHER WAS KILLED BY SOLDIER WHICH OBJ CLAIMED WERE UNKNOWN SOLDIERS OBJ IN HIS FIRST REGIME STOLE 2.8BILLION NAIRA FOR REFERENCE LISTEN TO FELAS SONG ABOUT IT OBJ KILLED BOLA IGE, HARRY MARSHALL, CHUBA OKADIGBO AND EVEN STELLAS DEATH LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS SACRIFICED 16BILLION DOLLARS POWER FUND THIRD TERM AGENDA IMPOSITION OF THIEFS AS GOVERNORS eg ALAO AKALA, GBENGA DANIEL, SEGUN ONI, AGAGU ABOVE ALL SLEEPING WITH HIS SONS WIFE haba this man is more devilish than ibb |
Re: IBB, OBJ Clash by Laajman(m): 6:53pm On Oct 08, 2010 |
Wayo man jam cunning man! To pick the lesser of two evils- I'd pick OBJ. In retrospect, OBJ performed creditably well. I'd score him like 55%, though he had several conflicts of interest. Give it to him- he stabilised the country and moved us some steps forward. I'm not sure we've made any progress since 2007. |
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