true2god:
He is saying nothing but the truth. Arab-muslims, using the quran and the hadith, invaded and destroyed Africa long before the imperial europeans came to africa.

Amujale:
Under what circumstance is it permitable for a bunch of unethical warmongers to be claiming to know anything about virtousness.

Instead of the Arabians to concentrate on apologising to Africans for all the looting, stealing, so-called 'holy war', that are infact part of the evil Arabian crusades of their recent past; they're there peddling falsity and fakery.

true2god:
The Arab-muslims won't apologize because they are following the sunnah of their prophet, and his companions, who enslaved blacks and pillage other people's land and property all in the name of religion. If the arab-muslims apologize, they technically make their profit Mohammed guilty of war crime hence they will not.

sagenaija:
Quranic Corrections Ep. 6 - Changes to Quran Manuscripts Around the World


CIRA International
Published on Aug 3, 2019

We continue in this episode by highlighting four more examples of the 20
Corrections he has offered in his book.

Example 6: Here, we have an example of multiple Post-Production Insertions, found in a manuscript from the Museum of
Islamic Art, Doha (MS.67.2007.1).

These insertions are located in Surah 5:93. The phrase “wa-ʿamilū
al-ṣāliḥāt thumma attaqū wa āmilū” has been inserted between the lines.
Except for the first wa āmilū the rest could be a copyist error, which
then had to be re-written into the text, and above the line, at a later
date.

Al fadi also notes that the wa-ʿamilū al-ṣāliḥāt is also inserted to
reflect a common repetitive phrase which is found throughout the Qur’an,
which means “believed and did good deeds”. Yet, by adding it the whole
phrase now supports today’s ‘Hafs’ text.

In the next line down, the initial ʿalif of احسنوا ʿ aḥsanū “do good”
(imperative, 3rd pl.), written in red, was omitted when it was first
written, and was then added later, but in red ink. The reason? ‘Ahsanu’
can be written without the Alif, but it then means “improve”. With the
alif added it now becomes “do good”.

This same red ink was used for the diacritical dots added at a later
date, proving that this ‘alif was added at this later date. Both of
these insertions now correspond with the current ‘Hafs’ text, proving
human intervention.

Example 7: In this example, taken from the Petropolitanus
Manuscript in Paris, France (BnF arabe 327, fol.ir.), we have an
insertion of the words “The Seven” above the line in Surah 23:86-87.

The words السبع alsabʿi “the seven” were added by a later scribe in
Surah 23:86. Formerly it used to say, “Say: ‘Who is the Lord, the Lord
of the Great Throne?’” which is a perfectly good phrase. Now it reads,
“Say: ‘Who is the Lord of the seven heavens and the Lord of the Great
Throne?’”

As such it now agrees with the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text. But more importantly,
there is a theological difference as well. By adding ‘the seven’, the
text now matches what Muhammad said when he went up to the 7 heavens
during the night of the ‘Mi’raj’, which some Muslims try to attribute to
Surah 17:1, referring to Muhammad going up from the ‘Great Mosque’ (i.e.
Mecca), to the ‘Farthest Mosque’ (i.e. Jerusalem). The problem with this
view is that there were no Muslims in Jerusalem at all in 621 AD when
this would have taken place, and thus no mosque could have existed there
that early.

Nonetheless, if the 7 heavens is to be attributed to the Mi’raj, than
this poses a further historical problem, because that story is first
introduced in the Hadith and the Tafsir, which aren’t created until
after 870 AD, or the late 9th century, suggesting that this correction
would have to be post 9th century, since this manuscript is from the 8th
century.

In Surah 23:87 we find another insertion, this time of the letter ʾalif
which has been inserted in front of the word lillāhi “Allah’s”. Note
that it has been written with a narrower nib, proving it was added later
by another scribe. Yet, this ‘alif is not found in the modern 1924
‘Hafs’ text, suggesting that the correction goes against that text, and
was created only by that later scribe.

Example 8: In this example, again taken from the
Petropolitanus Manuscript in Paris, France (BnF arabe 330, fol. 55r.),
we find an erasure has subsequently been overwritten in Surah 4:149.

Originally it used to say fa-inna illāha ʿafurān qadiran, which means,
“so surely Allah Forgiving, Powerful”, which doesn’t make sense.
Currently, the word allāh (“Allah”) of Q4:149 has been replaced by
allāhu kāna, which means “Allah is”, employing an erasure, and then
overwriting it. By adding “is” the sentence now agrees with the 1924
‘Hafs’ text, and also makes sense.

Example 9: Another example taken from the Petropolitanus
Manuscript (BnF arabe 327, fol. 12v.), this time from Surah 42:5, we
find an insertion above the line, with the words ‘The Merciful’.
Interestingly, these words الرحيم al-raḥīm “the Merciful” were omitted
in the original, and have now been added at a later time.

Originally, it said “And Allah is the Forgiving”. With the insertion it
now says “And Allah is the Forgiving, the Merciful”. This, not only
smooths out the reading of the text, it also now corresponds to the 1924
‘Hafs’ text.

But, intriguingly, this is part of the ‘Bismillah’ which is found in the
‘Fatiha’, the very first verse of the first chapter of the Qur’an, a
chapter which often doesn’t exist in many of the earliest Qur’anic
manuscripts. Could this be an example of introducing the Bismillah and
redacting it into an earlier manuscript? We don’t know, but it certainly
could be.

In conclusion, the question needs to be asked why these corrections
haven’t been noticed or published before by Muslim scholars, and why has
it taken an American scholar to be the first to uncover these thousands
of later corrections, and then subsequently publish them?

sagenaija:
Presterrjohnn

The 1st video noted that "human errors were inescable". So, that means there were human errors.

The 2nd does not show any debunking. The DCCI Team pointed out a number of differences between the versions. The video NEVER showed that there were no differences in the letters of the different versions.

The 3rd video commentary equally stated that there could be "scribal mistakes which are not uncommon ..." So, again ERROR is still claimed.

PresterrJohnn:


Your ignorance is very major, thick and knack. But I suspect that it is self-inflicted because of your foregoing misrepresentations which is obviously deliberate and strategic. I think you should apply to be one of Jay Smith's minions, you are well qualified.

Now to your misrepresentations and spinnings:

(1) The first video
(d) The brother thus show clearly that that instance in that one lone manuscript is a clear example of a scribal discrepancy

(e) This specific scribal discrepancy was spotted


(2) on the content of the second video.

The refutation shows clearly (while citing numerous Western orientalists) that the two copies employ different Arabic font styles for writing exactly the same words.


(3) The third video shows

sagenaija:

Thanks for your wonderful exposition!

sagenaija:
Perfect Preservation of the Quran is a Modern Invention
Islam Critiqued
Published on Jan 3, 2018

The earliest and most authoritative sources do not speak of a perfectly preserved Quran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpM_hGsTKE?list=PLVwt18wNX1gwjtSjNnRTZxyVBjXmDLzOC

SOME COMMENTS ON THE YOUTUBE SITE:
detail4me:
How can anyone think the Quran is preserved when they see all the Islam sources from authentic hadiths presented to them? I have heard this lie of perfect preservation so many times that it saddens me to think of how many souls are deceived.

Islam Critiqued:
Responses I've heard on this channel:
1. That's an inauthentic source!
2. Weak hadith!
3. The Quran is perfectly preserved from memory through the generations (ignore the evidence otherwise)
4. Yes there are manuscript variants but that doesn't matter because...memory.
..... .......
Ali Hassan:
Quran is perfectly preserved by memorization throughout the history. there are minor versions in reading and pronunciation but never change the mean whatsoever. If the Quran is not perfectly preserved why then the quran is ONLY book in the face of the earth people memorized from cover to cover ? Most people who memorize it whom native language is not Arabic have you thought of this ? you will find 7 years old memorize the entire Quran and also 80 years old man memorize it from cover to cover without single mistake. Well I haven't seen any book in the world that people memorize from cover to cover ever. This why the believe Quran is miracle and must be from God. Allah in the Quran made a promise this book will be preserved and the promise is fulfilled. (Quran 15:9)

Islam Critiqued:
Ali Hassan the best reciters of Basra couldn’t even get it right. And they forgot a Surah and 100 or so ayat here and there. But they tried their best. And that darn ayah-eating sheep. Again, no belief among the early sources about a perfectly preserved Quran. It’s a modern invention.

true2god:
The Arab-muslims won't apologize because they are following the sunnah of their prophet, and his companions, who enslaved blacks and pillage other people's land and property all in the name of religion. If the arab-muslims apologize, they technically make their profit Mohammed guilty of war crime hence they will not.

Amujale:
All Abrahamic religious text are fake, false and counterintuitive

Amujale:
According to history, Arabians are the first foreigners to exploit Ancient Egypt. The first ever exploration and escavation of KM.T was by Arabian personnel. The names of Arabian persons that exploited Ancient Egypt before any Eurocentric knew what or where KM.T was, number in their hundreds and thousands.

There was once a Sultan that invade Ancient Egypt back in antiquity; his name was Saladin.

Thats right, Sultan Saladin ruled over Ancient Egypt by ways of unbelievable violence.

Desecrated many sacred sites of the KM.T. and stole African intellectual properties at the time. Significantly, Ancient Egypt is where some of the content of Abrahamic text came about.

Furthermore, its from the African continent that Arabs stole their knowledge of Algebra.

Amujale:


I totally agree with your analysis here.

PresterrJohnn:

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PresterrJohnn:

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sagenaija:
Ep8: Erasures & Insertions prove massive censorship!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCR0kG2Cb4

PfanderFilms
Published on Sep 2, 2019

While Dr Brubaker only refers to 22 corrections in his book, he and others have found over 4,000 of these corrections in the earliest Qur’anic manuscripts, proving massive censorship.

Correction Example 14: Here we have erasures, which leave gaps in Surah 4:167 in the Topkapi manuscript (Topkapi Codex, fol. 65r).

In the first example we find an erasure of the first letter of Allah. In the line directly above it, we see another erasure, but Dan hasn’t yet had time to look into it.

Further down, on the next line, we can see the shadow of what was first written, which was allāhi qad “Allah has already”; so, it used to say, “Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the way of Allah have already strayed far into error”. With the correction it now says, “Surely those who disbelieve and hinder from the way have strayed far into error”. This correction goes away from the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 15: In this example we have an erasure leaving a gap in Surah 24:33, found in the Museum of Islamic Art, Doha (MIA, Doha, 2013.19.2, verso).

We find an erasure at the end of one line, which continues into the beginning of the next line. It occurs after the word فضله faḍlihi “his grace”, and before والذين wa-alladhīna “and those who”. There is no way to know what was first written in the spaces erased; but it now corresponds to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text, proving intentional censorship.

Correction Example 16: We now come to an insertion in Surah 4:33, in the Hussayni manuscript, found in the Cairo Mosque (Cairo Mosque, mushaf al-sharif, fol.109r.).

The word kāna, “is,” was omitted when this manuscript was first written, and then added later on above the line. Only the first two letters are visible in the photograph though the full word kāna was presumably originally inserted here, written with a very fine nib. It now says, “And Allah has power over all things”, so that it finally conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text, and corresponds to the same formula found many times throughout the Qur’an.

Correction Example 17: Here we see an erasure which is then written over with the name ‘Allah’ in Surah 33:9, found in the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 11, fol. 7r.).

Interestingly, all but the first two letters of “ni ‘mat Allah” ‘The favor of Allah’ has been written over an erasure. Notice that a different nib and ink has been used, proving that a different hand of another scribe was employed. It’s also bunched together. It used to say, “ni ‘matihi” which means, ‘his favor’. It now says, “ni ‘mat Allah”, meaning ‘the favor of Allah’, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 18: In this example we find an insertion above the line of the word ‘the hour’ in Surah 6:40, again from the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 7, fol. 7r.).

An insertion of the word ‘the hour’ has been written above the line. Notice that it uses a much narrower nib, suggesting once again a different scribe, and a much later date. It used to say, “Say, tell me if Allah’s torment comes upon you, or comes upon you…”. It now says, “Say, tell me if Allah’s torment comes upon you, or the hour comes upon you…”, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 19: We now find an example of an erasure, written over with the name of ‘Allah’, in Surah 34:27, also found in the National Library of Russia’s manuscript (NLR, Marcel, 5, fol. 11r.)

The word “Huwa Allah” (‘he is Allah’) has been written in front of and over top of another word which has been erased. We cannot know what the original word would have been, but we see that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

Correction Example 20: This example is an erasure of nearly a full line, which is overwritten with only a few words, in Surah 8:3 from the Museum of Islamic Art, Doha (MIA, Doha, 2014.491, fol.7v.).

One can see clearly that almost an entire line of text has been erased and then overwritten with the word “rizq” (‘provision’). We cannot know what the original phrase that was erased may have been. It now says, “wa-mimma razaqnahum yunfiqun”, meaning, “And out of what we have provided them (m.) they (m.) spend”. Notice that the initial ‘alif’ of the following verse is also added, so that it now conforms to the 1924 ‘Hafs’ text.

We have found that most of these corrections bring the existing text into conformity with a standard. But how can you correspond these texts unless a standard exists? And no standard existed prior to 1924. So, when were all these corrections carried out? We leave that for you to decide.

What all these corrections prove is that there has been a good amount of correcting, changing, deleting, adding and conforming the early Qur'anic manuscripts so that they correspond with the final canonized text which we use today, proving that the Qur'an could not have come from Allah, nor from Muhammad, nor from Uthman, but from mere men