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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by mushystuff: 8:49am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

It does

No it does not. Don't start dabbling into legal and judicial matters you clearly know nothing about.

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 8:51am On Feb 23, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

“What their Lordships ought to have done was to ask the lawyers, ‘can you address us with respect to our jurisdiction?’

“Because Section 133 of the Electoral Act stipulates that upon the conclusion of an election and once candidates are declared, any challenge of the conduct of the election, of the qualification of the candidates shall be heard and determined by an Election Petition Tribunal,” Falana stated.
this was only a case running it course. the case was not instituted after election

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 8:51am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:
the high court judgement can also be interpreted as the disqualification of APC candidate since the window of substitution is over.
That is what the SC corrected.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by mushystuff: 8:53am On Feb 23, 2020
Iamgrey5:
A pre election matter stops when election has taken place sir..

Any other arguments are always reffered to the special court set up for election matters.

Except an appeal is pending during the election.


Following your line of argument, if the judgment of the CA had been in favour of PDP disqualifying APC so that they didn't participate in the election and then the election took place the next day, are you saying APC would have been expected to proceed to an election tribunal on the issue? What would be the grounds of their petition? That they were unlawfully disqualified by the CA? Can a tribunal overrule a CA? Study the grounds for an election petition and tell me what the argument would have been.

How can a cause of action that arose prior to elections suddenly be referred to an election petition tribunal when it has already been litigated upon? That is an abuse of court process and would have suffered being statute barred!

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by donpapa(m): 8:56am On Feb 23, 2020
Iamgrey5:
Was forgery proven in this case?

Why then did the Abuja High Court gave it’s verdict if it wasn’t proven?

https://m.guardian.ng/news/court-disqualifies-apcs-bayelsa-deputy-governorship-candidate/

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 8:58am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

That is what the SC corrected.
yeah. the supreme Court only interpreted not give a new judgement in this case. falana is not thinking properly. I will do better than most of this lawyer if I did law in school.

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 8:59am On Feb 23, 2020
mushystuff:


Following your line of argument, if the judgment of the CA had been in favour of PDP disqualifying APC so that they didn't participate in the election and then the election took place the next day, are you saying APC would have been expected to proceed to an election tribunal on the issue? What would be the grounds of their petition? That they were unlawfully disqualified by the CA? Can a tribunal overrule a CA? Study the grounds for an election petition and tell me what the argument would have been.

How can a cause of action that arose prior to elections suddenly be referred to an election petition tribunal when it has already been litigated upon? That is an abuse of court process and would have suffered being statute barred!

Thank you for finishing the work........
Thread closed.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:00am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

[b]Justice Ekwo, in his judgment, declared that Modibbo was not qualified to contest the APC primaries as well as the 2019 House of Representatives election for the federal constituency.

The court held that Usman was the lawful winner of the Oct. 7, 2018 APC primaries and candidate of the party for the constituency.

The judge further held that Usman had successfully proven beyond reasonable doubt that Modibbo falsified his age severally in order to contest election.


The court also noted that the plaintiff proved that Modibbo submitted the forged certificates for the purpose of contesting the party primaries.

The court also held that Modibbo was a serving National Youth Corps member when he contested the primary election, saying the action breached Section 4 of the NYSC Act 2004.

“A person who is a lawbreaker cannot be a lawmaker, this illegality is one that cannot be wished away,” the judge said.

The judge declared that in view of the disqualification of Modibbo, Usman, who polled the second highest votes in the Oct. 7, 2018 primary election of the APC for Yola South/Yola North/Girei Federal Constituency of Adamawa, was the lawful winner.

Justice Ekwo gave an order directing the APC and INEC to immediately replace Modibbo’s name with that of Usman as the lawful candidate of APC for the federal constituency.[/b]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2019/05/03/court-nullifies-adamawa-apc-rep-elects-election-gives-reasons/amp/

This is the high court judgement. It was a pre-election matter. The FHC replaced Modibbo with another APC candidate.

The Modibbo went to the CoA and took a stay of execution, and later won. But the substitution window was over.

The SC now ruled and said...NO....the party should suffer for their profligacy.

They upheld the FHC judgement ,then added a but and gave it to the 2nd party.....just like in Bayelsa.

Cc: mushystuff lostz dansuqi ChristianNorth


This showcases wole's brilliance.same ekwo ruled against apc.in adamawa,his judgment was clear and without ambiguity,he gave declaratory and consequential orders to the fullest.compare it to the bayelsa judgment which he stopped short.he knew what he was doing and wole has latched unto it.
Secondly,there was a clear proof of forgery here beyond doubt.you cant compare it to that of the apex court.
Now the supreme court in disqualifying an entire party and declaring the next party in line is doing so illegal.what law supports it? The precedent and tradition has always been to give it still to that same party since the electorate supports them.it is a perverted decision.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:00am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:
yeah. the supreme Court only interpreted not give a new judgement in this case. falana is not thinking properly. I will do better than most of this lawyer if I did law in school.
He is trying to cause confusion and perhaps find a new client.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:04am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:


This showcases wole's brilliance.same ekwo ruled against apc.in adamawa,his judgment was clear and without ambiguity,he gave declaratory and consequential orders to the fullest.compare it to the bayelsa judgment which he stopped short.he knew what he was doing and wole has latched unto it.
Secondly,there was a clear proof of forgery here beyond doubt.you cant compare it to that of the apex court.
Now the supreme court in disqualifying an entire party and declaring the next party in line is doing so illegal.what law supports it? The precedent and tradition has always been to give it still to that same party since the electorate supports them.it is a perverted decision.
Thank God....you are on Nairaland, not on the SC bench.

Ekwo said substitute when the substitution window was closed. So you want to waste the learned Justices time by going back to them after disqualifying Degi.

So after upholding the judgement, you your want to create a lacuna and more confusion. So you your want the SC to forget about Section 187(1) and (2)...Did PDP ask for it to be placed second?
They only said, address his disqualification and Sections 187. Did SC tell INEC to hand over to the PDP?

In Yola, Look at the case well...give to the second in the primaries......
SC says NO.....it's the party's profligacy.

The judicial review papers filed by Wole will be thrown into the abyss.

Degi's lawyers remember, did not contest the processes of effecting a change on certificates, as presented by Yustaz Usman (SAN).

This case is dead. Please start praying for Alaibe. That's the best bet.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:05am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

Thank God....you are on Nairaland, not on the SC bench.

Ekwo said substitute when the substitution window was closed. So you want to waste the learned Justices time by going back to them after disqualifying Degi.

Look at the case well...give to the second.
SC says NO.....it's the party's Mandate.

The judicial review papers filed by Wole will be thrown into the abyss.

Degi's lawyers remember did not contest the processes of effecting a change on certificates, as presented by Yustaz Usman.

This case is dead. Please start praying for Alaibe. That's the best bet.
Hatred for sylva is leading you to contradict yourself
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 9:07am On Feb 23, 2020
scoundrel:

...and do what on that boring channel? The post does not appeal to me. I have chosen to voice my displeasure because this is a chat forum not a knowledge base after all.

Boring channel yet you follow. I get your drift on the bolded.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:10am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

Hatred for sylva is leading you to contradict yourself
I have edited....am not dead-partisan like you.

Whether I hate Sylva or not....I don't sit on the SC bench.

It's a dead case. Having known you for quite some time..what matters to you is APC...how they do it, you don't care.

Unfortunately, it didn't work this time.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:10am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:
pre election cases already are allowed to run their course in the court.

it is only when the case was instituted after election that it is overtaken by tribunal
What does 133 says
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:12am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

What does 133 says
What was the only judgement before the elections?
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:12am On Feb 23, 2020
donpapa:


She doesn’t appoint herself to preside the panel, the CJN did; And this was based on ranking and seniority! The woman was just one out of 5 judges.
Can she convince the other panel members or not
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 9:12am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:


This showcases wole's brilliance.same ekwo ruled against apc.in adamawa,his judgment was clear and without ambiguity,he gave declaratory and consequential orders to the fullest.compare it to the bayelsa judgment which he stopped short.he knew what he was doing and wole has latched unto it.
Secondly,there was a clear proof of forgery here beyond doubt.you cant compare it to that of the apex court.
Now the supreme court in disqualifying an entire party and declaring the next party in line is doing so illegal.what law supports it? The precedent and tradition has always been to give it still to that same party since the electorate supports them.it is a perverted decision.
which precedent and tradition? can you at least mention one case to back up your claim?


the court agreed it is a clear case of forgery; any other option is useless.

falana is not arguing whether it is forgery or not. he is only saying the supreme Court should not take the case because it is a preelection matter; and he is wrong

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by ChristianNorth: 9:13am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:


This showcases wole's brilliance.same ekwo ruled against apc.in adamawa,his judgment was clear and without ambiguity,he gave declaratory and consequential orders to the fullest.compare it to the bayelsa judgment which he stopped short.he knew what he was doing and wole has latched unto it.
Secondly,there was a clear proof of forgery here beyond doubt.you cant compare it to that of the apex court.
Now the supreme court in disqualifying an entire party and declaring the next party in line is doing so illegal.what law supports it? The precedent and tradition has always been to give it still to that same party since the electorate supports them.it is a perverted decision.
The SC has the power to set aside precedents. It is their duty to clean up the system.

They are not bound by precedents.

Be guided.

With this masterstroke, parties will learn how to conduct primaries

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:15am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

Hahahahahahaha.....it's late then.

He can tell God.

But there was only one judgement before the elections. Which was that?
Before you annoy me further,what does 133 clearly states
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 9:15am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

Can she convince the other panel members or not
is it her job to spoon-feed the other members?

each judge is responsible for his/her judgement. they are all being paid to interpret the law

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:16am On Feb 23, 2020
ChristianNorth:

The SC has the power to set aside precedents. It is their duty to clean up the system.

They are not bound by precedents.

Be guided.

With this masterstroke, parties will learn how to conduct primaries
Set aside precedents based on which law? Do you realize that their judgment can also amount to a nullity
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:16am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:
is it her job to spoon-feed the other members?

each judge is responsible for his/her judgement. they are all being paid to interpret the law
Why beg the question na?
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:16am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

Before you annoy me further,what does 133 clearly states
What was the only judgement before the November 16 elections in Bayelsa?
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:17am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

That is what the SC corrected.
It corrected nothing.it clearly reinstated the high court ruling.no addition or subtraction
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by ZAWs: 9:18am On Feb 23, 2020
Staro:



Oga, stop fooling yourself.
The case went through various appeals from high court to the Supreme Court

How old are you or what's your level of education?

Keep shut if you have nothing to say
It's not a must to comment thereby exposing your ignorance

.

Channel this your high level of arrogance to Falana who has chide the supreme already; since you know more better than him.
Nonsense

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:19am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

It corrected nothing.it clearly reinstated the high court ruling.no addition or subtraction
False........you have read the High Court judgement, and still yet I posted the Supreme Court judgement with a caveat and you still say this?

Cc: lostz ChristianNorth... Help me here on the Yola case, I posted earlier.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Nobody: 9:20am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

What does 133 says
Section 133 of the Electoral Act stipulates that upon the conclusion of an election and once candidates are declared, any challenge of the conduct of the election, of the qualification of the candidates shall be heard and determined by an Election Petition Tribunal.


by virtue of this section, only the federal high court disqualifying APC should stand because that was the only judgement before election.

but falana is wrong because this case was already in court and legal precedent suggest it should be allowed to run it course
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by fergie001: 9:22am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:

Section 133 of the Electoral Act stipulates that upon the conclusion of an election and once candidates are declared, any challenge of the conduct of the election, of the qualification of the candidates shall be heard and determined by an Election Petition Tribunal.


by virtue of this section, only the federal high court disqualifying APC should stand because that was the only judgement before election
Hahahahahahaha hahaha hahahahahahaha haha.....
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:22am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:

which precedent and tradition? can you at least mention one case to back up your claim?


the court agreed it is a clear case of forgery; any other option is useless.

falana is not arguing whether it is forgery or not. he is only saying the supreme Court should not take the case because it is a preelection matter; and he is wrong
Falana clearly said forgery wasn't proved.right fro m 2007 amaechi case when a party candidate is disqualified,the runner up takes over.it happened in anambra central and north,joy emordi was involved and okonkwo,cant remember others.ill recall others as time goes on.

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Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Judeerons32: 9:25am On Feb 23, 2020
fergie001:

This is a pre-election issue.

Note, the SC does not have the power to call for a re-run or nullify an election, unless it has originated from a lower court.
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by Dansuqi: 9:25am On Feb 23, 2020
Lostz:

Section 133 of the Electoral Act stipulates that upon the conclusion of an election and once candidates are declared, any challenge of the conduct of the election, of the qualification of the candidates shall be heard and determined by an Election Petition Tribunal.


by virtue of this section, only the federal high court disqualifying APC should stand because that was the only judgement before election

Then falana is right at the bolded.apc appealed before the election to the appeal court.that appeal judgment stands
Re: Bayelsa Election: Falana Says Supreme Court Is Wrong, Lacks Jurisdiction by donpapa(m): 9:26am On Feb 23, 2020
Dansuqi:

Can she convince the other panel members or not
Why would she? Don’t they have the mind of their own? Common! To be a JSC no be beans o

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