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Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by KnowAll(m): 5:49am On Dec 29, 2010
Personally I welcome official opposition in d SW, PDP fits d bill being a national party, all dat remains is for credible candidates to take up candidacy of this party and discuss issue based politics.

If d PDP candidate in Lagos say he would tear down those lousy toll gates, he would not only have swayed a large % of Lagos electorates to his party he would actually effect change in d lives of his constituents which is one of d fundermentals of democracy.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by Nobody: 7:44am On Dec 29, 2010
Keep talking through your backside. I know what I'm talking about and typing in Capital letters only signifies one thing- Bitterness and Ignorance of proper Nigerian History and Geography. Cheers.

Hymm! mr historian, so you want to know the history of a place than the son of the soil? Professor!

Stop saying what you don't know. Stop misleading people!!!
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by ahf(m): 8:09am On Dec 29, 2010
luvinhubby:

The fact is most residents of Lagos are fed up with Fashola and ACN`s highandedness. Why commercialise public utility and one pays toll to enter his ancestral home. Why pay toll on a road still under construction that has a 30yr concession agreement, if they start collecting toll now, what guarantee do you have that they will finish the road in 8yrs time. Why pay MVAA license of N25,000 to sell motor and motorcycle parts in Lagos and still pay trade permit, tenement rate, radio and TV license, income tax, development levy, waste disposal fee  and your landlord still debits for land use charge. Fact is, Lagosians are fed up with Tinubu/Fashola`s ACN in Lagos.  Why pay N25,000 for a breaking traffic law in a city where the minimum wage is N7,500 is that not madness. All politicians are the same, ACN or PDP, we have tried ACN in lagos, they are Shylocks, lets give PDP a chance.

Good valid points, however on the traffic offence point, I don't agree, Nigerians have been lawless for a long time, harsh penalties for obvious traffic violations are in order. Nigerians just don't like following rules and regulations.

PDP is a terrible party, where have they taken us in all their years in power? Still no electricity !!! Interstate roads are still a mess !!

ACN hasnt been over fantastic but at least we can point to some positive actions on ground in Lagos. During a recent visit, I was surprised to see some suburb roads under construction and some major roads been patched up "even in this holiday period".  If for nothing else, I respect Fashola for the little he has done. If past 4 governors in a state did same, most states would be fairly sane and habitable.

Haven said that, he should listen to the complains of people and rectify major issues on the ground.

The Lekki road toll issue is not as easy as it looks, the state has entered into a legal agreement with LCC to provide that infrastructure because the state wasn't willing (or able) to fund it, and the road been a major part of the Lekki FTZ had to be done.  The mistake is that the old road should have been left alone and LCC construct a fresh new road, then it becomes fully optional to use the new road.  As it is now, the road been proposed as alternative is not even known to most people.
Hence the state might have no option than to
- provide an alternative road even if a 2 lane version, to handle those unwilling to pay toll fees, or
- a part of the new road (1 lane) be dedicated to none toll paying customers. (common design in the USA)

Fashola, my advice - please spread the road repairs to suburbs and outskirts, because
- those locations have a larger population density
- they suffer more hardship from bad roads
- they would be more grateful for your actions.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by Xfactoria: 10:12am On Dec 29, 2010
obasy09:

Hymm! mr historian, so you want to know the history of a place than the son of the soil? Professor!

Stop saying what you don't know. Stop misleading people!!!

While it may not be correct to say that PDP won in Ikorodu due to historical dispositions, Ikorodu was actually part of what is today's Ogun State way back. Ikorodu was ceded to Lagos Colony in 1906 by the Remo people of Ogun State. Before then, it was under the Remo Division of Ijebu Province and was so because Ikorodu was founded by a Sagamu prince called Oga in the mid-19th century. Almost all the indigineous families in Ikorodu have lineages in Sagamu.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by Xfactoria: 10:44am On Dec 29, 2010
stine b:

TINUBU IS WORST THAN OBJ,Thats why i dont believe in ACN.He doesnt want to mind his business and stop hindering BRF from developing lagos further.

Spot on! Sometimes I wonder why people forget so easily the kind of person that man is.

PDP may not be a good party, but the ACN is surely not better. ACN leader; Tinubu is only a pretender. Even the party itself is comprised of questionable, disgruntled and out-of-favour politicians from the PDP like Tom Ikimi, Ibikunle Amosu etc. The recent congress of the ACN in Lagos ended in a row because some members protested Tinubu's alleged imposition of candidates on the party. Tinubu as a person does not fancy primary elections simply because he never emerged as a candidate through one. In 1999, Funsho Williams defeated him in the AD guber primaries but the Adesanyas of this world foisted him on the party as a compensation for his alleged support for NADECO with proceeds of his illicit drug trades. Again, in 2003, he used the power of incubency to make sure the party disqualified all opposing candidates for him to emerge unopposed as the guber candidate. He later out-rigged Funsho Williams in the general elections. In 2007, he muscled out all opposing candidates to his protege - Fashola and made sure he emerged as the sole candidate of the party in a kangaroo primary.

Tinubu has never believed in internal democracy within a party; the same mistake the AD made in 2003 and lost out big time to the PDP (never mind the PDP rigged, because they - the AD/ACN also rigged). The PDP victory in Ikorodu might just be signalling the imminent implosion of the ACN in Lagos because a good number of their members are seriously aggrieved by Tinubu's dictatorship and the lack of fair play in choosing candidates for the party.

What is obvious in all these is that all the political parties are the same except for a few like the late Gani's NCP who are not bouyant enough to make any impact. The general trend is that when they are getting large, they prove unable to manage their big size because their undemocratic principles like the imposition of candidates, the idea of consensus candidates without primaries are not sustainable. The consequence is the the shameful cross-carpetting that we witness every now and then.

ACN's governance of Lagos State is very fragile. They need to do more in the interiors. We know that the ACN has a budget for buying the press and that is why many of the respected journalists and newspapers do not report the shameful state of bad roads in the remote part of the state.

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Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by Meldrick(m): 11:16am On Dec 30, 2010
X-factoria:

Spot on! Sometimes I wonder why people forget so easily the kind of person that man is.

PDP may not be a good party, but the ACN is surely not better. ACN leader; Tinubu is only a pretender. Even the party itself is comprised of questionable, disgruntled and out-of-favour politicians from the PDP like Tom Ikimi, Ibikunle Amosu etc. The recent congress of the ACN in Lagos ended in a row because some members protested Tinubu's alleged imposition of candidates on the party. Tinubu as a person does not fancy primary elections simply because he never emerged as a candidate through one. In 1999, Funsho Williams defeated him in the AD guber primaries but the Adesanyas of this world foisted him on the party as a compensation for his alleged support for NADECO with proceeds of his illicit drug trades. Again, in 2003, he used the power of incubency to make sure the party disqualified all opposing candidates for him to emerge unopposed as the guber candidate. He later out-rigged Funsho Williams in the general elections. In 2007, he muscled out all opposing candidates to his protege - Fashola and made sure he emerged as the sole candidate of the party in a kangaroo primary.

Tinubu has never believed in internal democracy within a party; the same mistake the AD made in 2003 and lost out big time to the PDP (never mind the PDP rigged, because they - the AD/ACN also rigged). The PDP victory in Ikorodu might just be signalling the imminent implosion of the ACN in Lagos because a good number of their members are seriously aggrieved by Tinubu's dictatorship and the lack of fair play in choosing candidates for the party.

What is obvious in all these is that all the political parties are the same except for a few like the late Gani's NCP who are not bouyant enough to make any impact. The general trend is that when they are getting large, they prove unable to manage their big size because their undemocratic principles like the imposition of candidates, the idea of consensus candidates without primaries are not sustainable. The consequence is the the shameful cross-carpetting that we witness every now and then.

ACN's governance of Lagos State is very fragile. They need to do more in the interiors. We know that the ACN has a budget for buying the press and that is why many of the respected journalists and newspapers do not report the shameful state of bad roads in the remote part of the state.



What more can I say? You have said it all. That rogue called Tinubu is only interested in partying with Lagos State funds. ACN is worse than PDP.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by KnowAll(m): 11:33am On Dec 30, 2010
[size=14pt]A lot of people are starting to review Fashola's performance holistically without the bandwagon clarion call of "eko oni baje" people are engaging their brains once again, the hoodwink Fashola has been using has started to fall off people's eyes. Can someone tell me one-thing Fashola has done in the last 6 months, the man is living on past glory.

To be sincere I do not blame him, we are in a political charged period and a lot of Lagos State's fund is spent on fighting battles in far-away Ekiti, Osun and probably Oyo and Ogun state,  hence the slow-down of Fashola's goverment in recent months.[/size]
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by barryblack: 2:24pm On Jan 02, 2011
only a witch who hates the progress the ACN is bringing will vote the PDP or any other party over the ACN. except if they begin to mess up. but not yet.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by ola6: 7:30am On Jul 18, 2014
Solomon227:

@ d OP

Why are u making this a big news? Every Lagosian that has been monitoring d political map of Lagos state shud know that this area is one of the few strongholds PDP has tenaciously held on to since 1999.

ACN is too arrogant, complacence, loud-mouthed, and the owner of the party-Tinubu, too dictatorial. Can you belief that up till now, the party doesn't have gov candidates, and for other positions. The dummies including Fashola, are all waiting for Baba Tinubu to pronounce them as candidates.

Yah we know (at least we ave seen a bit of their tendencies in Fashola and Oshiomole). We want out wit PDP for now until ACN proves u right.


Prophet Solomon
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by ola6: 7:32am On Jul 18, 2014
Gbawe:


Not neccessarily . The ACN can easily avoid becoming like the PDP if the Party adheres to a policy of giving good guys, achievers and progressives a fair chance in a genuinely democratic environment. It is that simple . PDP , under OBJ , did the opposite i.e good guys and achievers were bullied out of the way for criminals and mediocre individuals.

Lets not forget that OBJ changed the thinking and modus Operandi of the PDP for the worse to the extent that some of the Parties founding fathers have now stated that the PDP is doomed as long as OBJ remains influential within the Party . Actions such as the OBJ-led impeachment of Peter Obi and the subsequent bullying of everyone out of the way callously and unfairly to make OBJ's Personal assistant (Andy Ubah) Governor of Anambra State shows that the PDP's current identity was created by the inactions of those who let OBJ define the Party in his own dark and "do-or-die" image. This is why the drive towards genuine democracy is important . Genuine democracies tend to self-correct themselves with good buffers of checks and balances . If the ACN keeps promoting internal democracy I don't see how they can ever become as bad as the PDP.

Well, now that TINU-ole has chosen Ambode! I think it's fair to say you are a lair.
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by ola6: 7:34am On Jul 18, 2014
Xfactoria:

Spot on! Sometimes I wonder why people forget so easily the kind of person that man is.

PDP may not be a good party, but the ACN is surely not better. ACN leader; Tinubu is only a pretender. Even the party itself is comprised of questionable, disgruntled and out-of-favour politicians from the PDP like Tom Ikimi, Ibikunle Amosu etc. The recent congress of the ACN in Lagos ended in a row because some members protested Tinubu's alleged imposition of candidates on the party. Tinubu as a person does not fancy primary elections simply because he never emerged as a candidate through one. In 1999, Funsho Williams defeated him in the AD guber primaries but the Adesanyas of this world foisted him on the party as a compensation for his alleged support for NADECO with proceeds of his illicit drug trades. Again, in 2003, he used the power of incubency to make sure the party disqualified all opposing candidates for him to emerge unopposed as the guber candidate. He later out-rigged Funsho Williams in the general elections. In 2007, he muscled out all opposing candidates to his protege - Fashola and made sure he emerged as the sole candidate of the party in a kangaroo primary.

Tinubu has never believed in internal democracy within a party; the same mistake the AD made in 2003 and lost out big time to the PDP (never mind the PDP rigged, because they - the AD/ACN also rigged). The PDP victory in Ikorodu might just be signalling the imminent implosion of the ACN in Lagos because a good number of their members are seriously aggrieved by Tinubu's dictatorship and the lack of fair play in choosing candidates for the party.

What is obvious in all these is that all the political parties are the same except for a few like the late Gani's NCP who are not bouyant enough to make any impact. The general trend is that when they are getting large, they prove unable to manage their big size because their undemocratic principles like the imposition of candidates, the idea of consensus candidates without primaries are not sustainable. The consequence is the the shameful cross-carpetting that we witness every now and then.

ACN's governance of Lagos State is very fragile. They need to do more in the interiors. We know that the ACN has a budget for buying the press and that is why many of the respected journalists and newspapers do not report the shameful state of bad roads in the remote part of the state.



May God bless you!
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by HisRoyalHardnes(m): 10:41am On Jul 18, 2014
ACN was also a supporter of APC party.

Say no to terrorism
Say not to APC
Re: Breaking News! Pdp Defeats Acn In Lagos Bye-election by onimcee1(m): 1:47pm On Jul 18, 2014
Musiwa13: the PDP is not winning Yorubaland, Jonathan is not winning Yorubaland period.  it is acn or labour.
ACN is a defunct political party, Dumb Dummy.

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