Oluromantic:
Malachi 3:10 answers it all. It says all the full tight should be taken to the house of the Lord. You can give your sister money, gifts etc but ur full tithe is not negotiable

honeyB2018:


Your expecting me to quote scriptures,,when I'm not addressing any issue that requires it, shows how empty and deceitful your brand of Christianity is
I know you and your brand, no need wasting my time on you. More than 3yrs, I spent on different social media platforms over this issue,
Why should I be stupid to engage you.
I will, still encourage you to be a Christian led by the Spirit and not of the letters.
Goodbye

MasterJayJay:
THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.

Introduction: If your pastors say giving the needy, widows, orphans 10% of your income is not tithe, that you must pay it to him, then you are attending a business centre, not a church.

Malachi is the favourite book most pastors use to preach tithe. And it is very obvious, they use it because it contains a curse for those who don't pay it. Therefore, it is the 'best' verse used to brainwash Christians.

If you want to preach tithing, preach all verses related to it. Most of these men of God know the other verses but the only one they preach to their audience is Malachi. The sheep they are leading are even lazy to read their own bibles to see the truth for themselves. Note that quarter of truth is no truth, truth must be whole. Don’t add, don't remove.

Tithing is an Old Testament concept, just like circumcision and animal sacrifice. Things Christians were meant to abide to have validations from New testament after death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. There is nowhere tithe was clearly instructed in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament focuses on giving without compulsion. 2 Corinthians 9:7 captured it very well “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".

If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?

There is a particular portion of the bible most pastors will never preach to you, and that can be found in Deut 14.22-29. Tithe was instructed to be given to the strangers, orphans, widows etc. How many pastors can boldly tell their members to give their tithes to widows and those in need?

Conclusion, if you want to pay tithe, that's your choice. But don't use outdated and obsolete verses like the one found in Malachi to threaten people. Are some verses outdated? Animal sacrifices were allowed in the Old Testament. After Jesus Christ paid for our sins, it made animal sacrifices to be outdated, and that includes tithes too.



For detailed explanation on tithes see this thread


https://www.nairaland.com/5783004/sentenced-asking-members-tithes-drama

honeyB2018:


You are seeking for attention that I'm ready to give to you. If you have anything called " brain" in that your big head, you will realize, I'm not ready to talk, neither did I solicit for any advise or teaching from you.
My point and stand is quite explicit, if you can't comprehend it, so sorry, I can't help you.

honeyB2018:


Your expecting me to quote scriptures,,when I'm not addressing any issue that requires it, shows how empty and deceitful your brand of Christianity is
I know you and your brand, no need wasting my time on you. More than 3yrs, I spent on different social media platforms over this issue,
Why should I be stupid to engage you.
I will, still encourage you to be a Christian led by the Spirit and not of the letters.
Goodbye

destinable:

Young man, you simply do not have anything reasonable to contribute. I bet the only scriptural passage of tithing you know is Mal 3 vs 10.

You said tithing is not under the law, I provided a passage for you showing tithing is law. I also show you passage condemning the law and it's uselessness (Heb 7 vs 18). The new testament was established after the death of Jesus yet you want to live by the same law he came to rid of.
Anyone who chooses to live by the law must not be selective of the law they chose to keep, you must abide by them all (Gal 3 vs 10 - 14).

Young man, I implore you today to repent cos you're living in sin by tithing. You can donate freely to your place of worship but you're no longer mandated. Ciao!

honeyB2018:


Your expecting me to quote scriptures,,when I'm not addressing any issue that requires it, shows how empty and deceitful your brand of Christianity is
I know you and your brand, no need wasting my time on you. More than 3yrs, I spent on different social media platforms over this issue,
Why should I be stupid to engage you.
I will, still encourage you to be a Christian led by the Spirit and not of the letters.
Goodbye

genkins:

In your ignorance you still feel the letters are the letters in the Bible.. Lol.. Ignorance at best.

honeyB2018:


Our greatest mistake in life as Christians, will be and has always been, walking without the help and leading of the Spirit. Anyone who walks with and in the Spirit, will always be victorious.
In you, I see why the Spirit is restraining me from making any further comment over this issue
Please, find those in your class and grade to banter with over tithing. I'm done with it.

honeyB2018:


Can't you see, that you are just empty and devoid of understanding? Hope you went through my post very well?
Why pick a fight with a man who doesn't even know, that you exists?

collinslinkis:
This is my problem with some christians they will not start from verse one by will jump to verse 12... pls read from verse one

Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV
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22 “Every year you must be sure to save one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that grow in your fields.
23 Then you must go to the place the Lord chooses to be the home for his name. You will go there to be with the Lord your God. At that place you will eat the tenth(tithe) of your crops—one-tenth of your grain, your new wine, your oil, and the first animals born in your herds and flocks. In this way you will always remember to respect the Lord your God.
24 But that place might be too far for you to travel to. Maybe you will not be able to carry one-tenth(tithe) of all the crops that the Lord has blessed you with. If that happens,
25 sell that part of your crops and take the money with you to the special place the Lord has chosen.
26 Use the money to buy anything you want—cattle, sheep, wine or beer or any other food. Then you and your family should eat and enjoy yourselves there in that place with the Lord your God.
27 But don’t forget the Levites living in your town. Share your food with them because they don’t have a share of the land like you have.
28 “At the end of every three years, you must gather one-tenth of your harvest for that year. Store this food in your towns.
29 Keep this food for the Levites, because they don’t have any land of their own. Also keep this food for the foreigners, orphans, and widows who live in your towns. This will provide enough for them to come and eat all they want. If you do this, the Lord your God will bless you in everything you do.

MasterJayJay:
THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.

Introduction: If your pastors say giving the needy, widows, orphans 10% of your income is not tithe, that you must pay it to him, then you are attending a business centre, not a church.

Malachi is the favourite book most pastors use to preach tithe. And it is very obvious, they use it because it contains a curse for those who don't pay it. Therefore, it is the 'best' verse used to brainwash Christians.

If you want to preach tithing, preach all verses related to it. Most of these men of God know the other verses but the only one they preach to their audience is Malachi. The sheep they are leading are even lazy to read their own bibles to see the truth for themselves. Note that quarter of truth is no truth, truth must be whole. Don’t add, don't remove.


...If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?..

I was listening to u, thinking u would make sense. Just read your quote above... thank God, I said our own pastor's, not your own. And we are very proud at that.
Now, learn the following:
1. Was there church those days?
2.lf yes, what was the function of the levites?
3. Who are the levites in today's church?

"The kind are the brave". Leave them that give to be giving for what they believe. If u feel envy about them, accept Jesus into your heart and u will change to be like them.

The best source of peace is to love what u believe and and love what u do.

And to my fellow Christians, do know that this kind of reaction from such a person are part of the trials, deceit, persecution, apostasy, frustration and antichristianity we are bound to face. So do allow them mislead your faith in CHRIST. May the course we have chosen continue to shine bright on our journey in Jesus's name. Amen


Tithing is an Old Testament concept, just like circumcision and animal sacrifice. Things Christians were meant to abide to have validations from New testament after death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. There is nowhere tithe was clearly instructed in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament focuses on giving without compulsion. 2 Corinthians 9:7 captured it very well “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".

If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?

There is a particular portion of the bible most pastors will never preach to you, and that can be found in Deut 14.22-29. Tithe was instructed to be given to the strangers, orphans, widows etc. How many pastors can boldly tell their members to give their tithes to widows and those in need?

Conclusion, if you want to pay tithe, that's your choice. But don't use outdated and obsolete verses like the one found in Malachi to threaten people. Are some verses outdated? Animal sacrifices were allowed in the Old Testament. After Jesus Christ paid for our sins, it made animal sacrifices to be outdated, and that includes tithes too.



For detailed explanation on tithes see this thread


https://www.nairaland.com/5783004/sentenced-asking-members-tithes-drama

Kobojunkie:

Ask yourself the big question, if Jesus has [b]Fulfilled [/b]the Old Covenant on your behalf, why do you find yourself still living by a law defined in the Old Covenant and not in the Covenant that Jesus said you should live by instead?
The old covenant is completely different from the new covenant. And it is not possible to put one foot into the old covenant and one foot into the new covenant. It is essentially an ALL or NOTHING deal whichever way you choose. Jesus put it something like this.... you do not put New wine into Old wine skin. Same way you do not put Old wine into new wine skin.

He, Jesus, has already paid the debt you owe as far as the Old Covenant is concerned. Essentially instead the 613 commandments/Statues of the old covenant(a very heavy yoke for even the people of Israel who carry it),Jesus offered us all each only about 46 statutes/commandments to Obey(Jesus said His yoke is like), of which tithing is not even one of them(since it is of a part of and remains a part of the old covenant). So why are you still choosing to follow the old covenant when you have yet exhausted yourself with obeying the new covenant that Jesus has stipulated for you to obey daily?

MasterJayJay:
THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.

Introduction: If your pastors say giving the needy, widows, orphans 10% of your income is not tithe, that you must pay it to him, then you are attending a business centre, not a church.

Malachi is the favourite book most pastors use to preach tithe. And it is very obvious, they use it because it contains a curse for those who don't pay it. Therefore, it is the 'best' verse used to brainwash Christians.

If you want to preach tithing, preach all verses related to it. Most of these men of God know the other verses but the only one they preach to their audience is Malachi. The sheep they are leading are even lazy to read their own bibles to see the truth for themselves. Note that quarter of truth is no truth, truth must be whole. Don’t add, don't remove.


...If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?..

I was listening to u, thinking u would make sense. Just read your quote above... thank God, I said our own pastor's, not your own. And we are very proud at that.
Now, learn the following:
1. Was there church those days?
2.lf yes, what was the function of the levites?
3. Who are the levites in today's church?

"The kind are the brave". Leave them that give to be giving for what they believe. If u feel envy about them, accept Jesus into your heart and u will change to be like them.

The best source of peace is to love what u believe and and love what u do.

And to my fellow Christians, do know that this kind of reaction from such a person are part of the trials, deceit, persecution, apostasy, frustration and antichristianity we are bound to face. So do allow them mislead your faith in CHRIST. May the course we have chosen continue to shine bright on our journey in Jesus's name. Amen

Tithing is an Old Testament concept, just like circumcision and animal sacrifice. Things Christians were meant to abide to have validations from New testament after death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. There is nowhere tithe was clearly instructed in the New Testament after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The New Testament focuses on giving without compulsion. 2 Corinthians 9:7 captured it very well “Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver".

If you believe in tithing, then you should see other verses of the bible to know how it was applied thousands of years ago. Tithes were not for gentiles, it was for the Jews. Tithes were for the Levites, descendants of Levi. How many of your Pastors that preach Malachi to you are descendants of Levi?

There is a particular portion of the bible most pastors will never preach to you, and that can be found in Deut 14.22-29. Tithe was instructed to be given to the strangers, orphans, widows etc. How many pastors can boldly tell their members to give their tithes to widows and those in need?

Conclusion, if you want to pay tithe, that's your choice. But don't use outdated and obsolete verses like the one found in Malachi to threaten people. Are some verses outdated? Animal sacrifices were allowed in the Old Testament. After Jesus Christ paid for our sins, it made animal sacrifices to be outdated, and that includes tithes too.



For detailed explanation on tithes see this thread


https://www.nairaland.com/5783004/sentenced-asking-members-tithes-drama

JustTalks:
Pay your Tithe in your Church where you worship

JustTalks:
Pay your Tithe in your Church where you worship

desiredhome:


What do you mean by the later 2 dies ?

petra1:


It’s been modified

desiredhome:

Ok...
Does it mean, it's now the responsibility of the church to take care of the Priestly, the widows and the orphans, the poor in the church?

desiredhome:

Ok...
Does it mean, it's now the responsibility of the church to take care of the Priestly, the widows and the orphans, the poor in the church?

Kobojunkie:

Ask yourself the big question, if Jesus has [b]Fulfilled [/b]the Old Covenant on your behalf, why do you find yourself still living by a law defined in the Old Covenant and not in the Covenant that Jesus said you should live by instead?
The old covenant is completely different from the new covenant. And it is not possible to put one foot into the old covenant and one foot into the new covenant. It is essentially an ALL or NOTHING deal whichever way you choose. Jesus put it something like this.... you do not put New wine into Old wine skin. Same way you do not put Old wine into new wine skin.

He, Jesus, has already paid the debt you owe as far as the Old Covenant is concerned. Essentially instead the 613 commandments/Statues of the old covenant(a very heavy yoke for even the people of Israel who carry it),Jesus offered us all each only about 46 statutes/commandments to Obey(Jesus said His yoke is like), of which tithing is not even one of them(since it is of a part of and remains a part of the old covenant). So why are you still choosing to follow the old covenant when you have yet exhausted yourself with obeying the new covenant that Jesus has stipulated for you to obey daily?

Kobojunkie:

When did God say this? Search your Bible for exactly where Jesus said this.

desiredhome:

Like you just join the thread.. This thread was based on Deotoronomy 26, which your Papa or even you as a pastor I suppose will never read....
Just try and read also the book of Act......
Don't just read Malachi 3:10 because it has to do with money

petra1:
Tithe has no connection with Jesus death or the law. Tithe pre existed the law of moses . It was already an operational principle. Just like prayer , worship , alms , meditation etc

Kobojunkie:

God had a covenant before His first covenant? Did God know of this?

So what you are saying is long before God instituted His first covenant with Israel, the law of tithing existed? Did God not know of this before He asked Moses to do all he did in preparation of His tithing law in the book of Numbers? So, you are saying that God should not asked Aaron and moses to carry out the census which they did in the book of Numbers of the Levites, and of the other tribes -information which God then used to put together His final tithing formula for the people of Israel?

You need to read the book of Numbers chapter's 1 through Chapter 4, to see that God in fact had a formula as to how the rest of the tribe of Israel paid the portion of their tithe that was to the Levites. A beautiful design indeed!

petra1:

Abrahamic covenant is the biggest of all covenant . He is the father of faith .

petra1:

Tithes and offering were already existing principle .
God gave them a design but that was not the origin . He only modified an existing principle for them under levitical priesthood . Tithes and offerings existed before that.