laudate:


Um. . . . .I don't quite get you. Why on earth would I deny my ethnic background?? I don't think I have ever spoken about it. I grew up in the South-West, studied the language, can read & write it because it was made a compulsory part of my high school curriculum, etc.

So does that make me a Yoruba person?

TerraCotta:

Laudate--I was agreeing with you. I didn't see what you would supposedly gain from denying your ethnic background. If you are a Yoruba person, I'm pretty sure you would have just said so. So hopefully, our resident soothsayer will be able to prove her claims.

Esss:

@ topic

Back in my secondary school days, we had this boy who's face was badly cut up, he had six on each cheek. like this; "(((= =)))" (the = is supposed to be three). so we used to crack jokes that when a child is born, the tribal mark represented his rank.

((( ))) {means sergeant},

= = {corporal}

(((= =))) {means general}

((((== ==)))) {meant you were a field marshal).

there are different ones for lieutenants, majors, e.t.c

My friend was a major,

Do you remember when you said in the 'Osu' thread:

Quote from: babyosisi
Why is this topic of special interest to you that everyone else must somehow be misguided in their opinions except you?
I don't like dishonest people.
When someone understands somethings and pretends not to just to score a cheap point,that's dishonesty.

In the city, "the naming ceremony" would be the one big celebration substituting for several activities performed locally, on the kingroup-level. The naming ceremony marks the child's reception into society, after his name was determined, when people can safely begin interacting with him. In addition, a naming ceremony serves as a fund-raising party, where friends and well-wishers contribute towards the child's economic welfare.

babyosisi:

if they are barely visible,why did she get them?@ n-guage
for what purpose?
It's like getting a barely visible tattoo,why bother when it can barely be seen?

ThiefOfHearts:

Lol before he claimed that the articles and books were lies written by the white man now when proof that fellow Igbos have written these things they are now "historical tales"

Lmao.  apology ko, epe ni.

n-guage:

which one wold you rather get

Donzman:


I do not know where TerraCotta gets the idea that Ichies or Ozos are no more, go to any Igbo village, they're there!

ghettochyk:

no one would put me in a position where i must pick one. plus u might as well compare the tribal scars to other irrelevant stuff. it wont make a difference. no matter what u compare a wrong thing to, wrong is wrong. so no need asking. besides, the white guy in the photo obviously did that on his with his own consent. parents don't make their kids get that.

the constant bringing up of osu is very silly. if osu is the discriminating of a people because of their origin then it's wrong. whether it's an ancient thing or it's still in existance,  i will still not support it. and even if i am Yoruba, i would still speak against tribal markings.  i don't blindly support things because it's done by people in my own group. so there's definitely no use asking what i think of it (osu).  many people here are defending tribal markings because it's practiced in their culture."Wrong" does not have a nationality. tribal markings can be wrong whether it's practiced by yoruba people, igbo people, or welsh people. you can bring up anything that you feel is wrong about my own culture and we can debate it or discuss it. And if it's obviously wrong, don't expect me to claim it's not just because i am igbo.

babyosisi:

well said dear.
Tribal markings are ugly and unsightly anyone that disgrees should go get one!
Just because baba has them doesn't make them cool

_{donzie and zulunation when are your adult naming ceremonies,I'm dying to attend one.
BTW ghettochyk,was yours on the 27th or 28th day?
I mean your naming ceremony?}

Donzman:

@Laudate

That article clearly shows that Igbos have no naming ceremony! They thank God, people visit the child and bring their names with them (this is what the author was referring to Laudate as many ceremonies or whatever), and the parents name the kid as they want. When kids are born, many people visit with gifts and with the gifts come their own name for the kid, there is no naming ceremony as established by that author.

ThiefOfHearts:

Didnt you deny their existance a few pages back? Are you INSANE?

Donzman:

\!. . .Igu Afa is not a ceremony, like I already told you, when kids are born, family members suggest names from far and wide, there is no diversion of traffic like you experience in Lagos during Yoruba naming ceremonies!

n-guage:

Nigeria. where is thy unity?

@ sister osisi


which naming ceremony are you talks about  my parents gets 5 pikins and non of us had a naming ceremony, maybe the were too poor to afford one. instead they named us all chukwu this chukwu that.

Is it ghettochyk I see up there speaking supree supree na wa for you no bite your tongue oh 

Anyways I'm just coming back from the Coal City, I missed you all. Even you TOH. God I know I'm gone get insulted for say that 

SEVERAL examples were mentioned in this thread and now you are running around saying some other garbage.

Donzman:

@Thiefofhearts

You're getting dumber by the day, we name kids, we do not have naming ceremonies, Geez, how can I make it any clearer?. . .Igu afa simply means "naming a kid", it is not an official ceremony, why is it hard for you to accept that we do not have naming ceremonies?. . .Weird people on the internet!

babyosisi:

I actually was determined to learn of this great Igbo culture that had eluded me and I took it seriously.

I asked my 60+ year old mom,she has neither attended any naming ceremonies nor participated in one and never heard of it.
I asked my dad who is a decade older than mom, from a different town,same story.
I asked my 75 year old aunt,same story
I asked a friend from another part of Igboland,same thing.
I asked my cutie pie who is from a different area of Igboland,no change.

Then I asked my mom,the tradition after a child is born.
She told me Igbos traditionally believe in reincarnation.
Back in the days when she was born,a male child was circimcised on the 7th or 8th day then they inquire of the oracle who the child reincarnated and the chld was often given the name of that person,who is usually a late close family member.

In conclusion,Yorubas have naming ceremonies and know it,Igbos have naming ceremonies and Yorubas know it,how funny.

Donzman:

This is why I HATE to argue with people who live and die by what they read on the internet and try to argue with someone who has actually lived it. They keep posting internet articles that PROVE NO POINT, if you've attended this Igbo naming ceremony, show and tell or just shut up!