VirginDiva:
For example:
If the man is a civil servant and his wife, a petty trader (whose income, no matter how little, would help to take care of certain needs the family might have), there is no reason why he cannot assist her in the home by handling the laundry once a week!

VirginDiva:
It's quite simple, unless you failed maths in high school
A man who's working and providing for the family financially + A woman who isn't but takes care of the family and home, and fulfills her domestic responsibilities = equality.
A woman who's working and providing for the family financially + A man who isn't but takes care of the family and home, and fulfills his domestic responsibilites = equality.
A man and woman, both are working and providing for the family financially + The both of them also taking care of the family and home and fulfilling their domestic responsibilites = equality.
(If the man's income is greater than the woman's, his domestic responsibilities would be less. And vice versa).
So it's absurd that a man wouldn't contribute to the maintainace of the family home, upbringing of his children, and so on...when his partner works and earns as he does.
In 50:50 relationships, the duties are split equally to ensure a successful home!
#mytakeonthematter

thebosstrevor1:


this does not make sense at all

a civil servant job isnt the same as a petty trader job. any woman that can not find ways to take care of her home, sheouldnt be with a man

thebosstrevor1:


So you call a man sitting at home and taking care of the home like a woman, a man?

which woman will respect him

VirginDiva:
Mathematics!
If the man's income is 80% then his domestic duties would be 20%. The woman would handle majority of the chores.

VirginDiva:
too bad men don't think of respect when they consider their fulltime housewives.
As for your question, he woman would treat him as he would treat her if she were in his position.

thebosstrevor1:


what has mathematics got to do with a woman taking care of her home.

if a woman can not take care of her home then she is dirty and not fit to be a wife.

VirginDiva:
For example:
If the man is a civil servant and his wife, a petty trader (whose income, no matter how little, would help to take care of certain needs the family might have), there is no reason why he cannot assist her in the home by handling the laundry once a week!

VirginDiva:
a woman asking her husband to at most, handle the laundry once a week is dirty and not fit to be a wife?
A man who thinks domestic duties are beneath him is what? An almighty Alpha...
Why can't a man assist his wife maintain the home when she helps him by earning, no matter how little? If she makes an effort, he can too!

thebosstrevor1:


Most women will become full time house wives if they mrry a rich husband

A woman know it is her duty to clean and make her home welcomeble,

Respect is earned. if you want respect then you need to earn it.

edward1106:


Pray u marry one who has you in his heart, both in feelings and in burden. Otherwise, u might end up applying FURTHER MATHS to save your marriage.

thebosstrevor1:



A woman need to know her role while the man also need to know his role, a man is a provider, simple not a dish washer or a food cooker, if you are looking for someone to do the laundry and other domestic duties get a house help.

domestic duties are not for men

all these idealism you are bringing up is what is destroying marriages.

thebosstrevor1:



A woman need to know her role while the man also need to know his role, a man is a provider, simple not a dish washer or a food cooker, if you are looking for someone to do the laundry and other domestic duties get a house help.

domestic duties are not for men

all these idealism you are bringing up is what is destroying marriages.

VirginDiva:
and poor men.

great! I created a thread centered on how it's a man's duty to provide for the family financially, and I got bashed.. Here's a guy suggesting the same thing.
So when women assist their husbands by earning, they should even be worshipped for going out of their way!
Glad you are a man who believes it's your duty to toil to ensure your woman lives with utmost comfort.
And the full time housewives who are disrespected by their husbands haven't earned it? They don't deserve to be treated respectfully by the man whom she dedicates most of her time and energy to?

IamLEGEND1:
and this rigid assignment of roles is what has made just as many marriages crumble.

I preach self sufficience. I cook, clean and do everything for myself, and others if I need to. There is no hard and fast rule to life. Stick to what works for you. Don't try forcing your idea of what a marriage should be on others.

thebosstrevor1:


Women with poor men know that they also need to work all the bunch of children they have will starve to death.

A man is a provider simple, a need needs to work while if the woman is an house wife need to also do something at least make the home sane, if she isnt working an office job, atleast she can open a shop. as they say an idle person is the devil workshop.

A woman who maries a man that maltreats her is her fault, she saw the signs and decided to ignore it, i have no pity for that type of woman, she will have to carry her burden.

VirginDiva:
Yen, yen, yen! Tackle the equation written on the board first...
If a woman works alongside her man, shouldn't he assist her to maintain the home also? A man who has a woman in his HEART would do so.

VirginDiva:
Your opinion! Men shouldn't help out in the home because it's beneath them.
Should women assist their husbands by working and earning?
Don't you think that's above a weaker sex?

CosmicPhoenix:

we can all sit here and deceive ourselves but the truth is that there will never be equality in relationships.

VirginDiva:
there was a time men like you were like, '...the truth is that there will never be a time when women's right to education would be acknowledged...'
Several hundred years later, and there are more females in some classrooms!

edward1106:

Did you do INEQUALITY in math? Those greater than/less than and greater than or equal to/lesser than or equal to?
If you actually did, you would know marriage fits right at it and as regards the issue of proportionality (80-20, 30-70), you need some constants in that variable state, otherwise, u have a disaster. Have I spoken in your language now?

VirginDiva:
and the men wouldn't assist so the women don't die of stress, right?

the man is the a provider and the woman, a housewife and PROVIDER.

even if the man was mister perfect, after 5yrs of her being at home, he wouldn't respect her as he once did. If you don't think so, why do you believe that women disrespect men who take up domestic responsibilities?

thebosstrevor1:


doing what a woman is suppose to do will make the woman see you as weak and a easy means of manipulation

Self sufficience and independence is good for a man but atleat when it comes to stuff like cooking and cleaning the home, let her do it.

IamLEGEND1:
what is it with people and this constant need for a woman to see you as strong.
and the constant demand for respect... it reeks of neediness!
if you are a strong man or not is a question the answer to which is only ever known to you.

[b]inevitably, there are women who think just the way you do - any man seen doing chores is weak - hence, why you should attach yourself to a woman whom you see eye-to-eye with on these sort of things.
She'll appreciate your adherence to strict gender roles better than a woman who prefers her man share the responsibilities with her.

I find this logic to be simple and straightforward.[/b]

thebosstrevor1:


A woman love a strong and musculine man that can correct and tell her what to do not some weak man who has no balls to say his opinion.

At the highlighed, most women think like that, continue looking for that woman that will take you the way you are, women are expert in smelling weakness, they will pretend that you are in control and allow you while they recreate you in their image, after doing that, they hate and resent you and nag you to death.

Your idealism wil put you in trouble

IamLEGEND1:
first, unless a woman is mentally handicapped in a way that significantly affects her ability to think and act for herself, then you are neither required nor in a position to tell someone what to do.
unless, of course, the women where you're from are incapable of fully formed thoughts and actions, or per chance you happen to be some all-knowing Demigod we hadn't heard about. In which case even I would gladly submit to your instructions, O great one!

but in the unlikely event that you are, in fact,not a demigod, then you are just as susceptible to making bad decisions and having blind spots just like the rest of us mortals.

for that reason, you (and everyone) should be open to correction from everyone - man or woman.

In case it got lost in translation: Your insinuation that women have about the same mental capacity as toddlers and need to have their hands held and be guided by you doesn't sit right with me (read: I don't agree with it).

thebosstrevor1:



women love men they admire, that will play a daddy figure in their life, that is why many of them are attracted to men that are older than them.

thebosstrevor1:


doing what a woman is suppose to do will make the woman see you as weak and a easy means of manipulation

Self suficient and independence is good for a man but atleat when it comes to stuff like cooking and cleaning the home, let her do it.