tony_450:


Sirs, the positions you take are madenning to those like me who would rather help our fellow human beings rather than consign them to horrible deaths at the hands of a madman. Just this morning Ghaddafi announced that there would be no mercy for the people of Benghazi. What does this mean? It means that they will wipe out every one of those freedom loving people in the next day or so, so that he and his sons can continue their kleptocratic, brutal and oppressive rule of Libya.

I for one think this intervention should have come way earlier when the mercenaries and airforce started bombing and killing indiscriminately. If for instance during the Abacha years all of a sudden people decided they can't take it anymore and started demonstrating and Abacha started poundinf them with bombs? Tell me you wouldn't have welcomed foreign intervention to save our lives notwithstanding the fact that some people still supported Abacha and were ready to make him civilian president for life? Bear in mind that at the beginning of all this Ghaddafi said he would rather die than leave Tripoli!!

You do all of us NairaLanders a disservice by comparing Libya to Iraq. In fact you really are insulting the senses of everyone. Iraq was attacked on a false pretext when all that was wrong was that Saddam was a dictator. The real reason for the attack can be argued between oil, the fact that Bush wanted to complete his dad's job, or the fact that Cheney is just an evil evil man who saw an opportunity to get rid of Saddam and took it. Libya however is the direct fallout of the revolution sweeping North Africa and the Middle East were  people are genuinely asking for their right to rule themselves. In Tunisia and Egpyt they were met with negotiations. Gaddafi has instead turned it all into war by bombing the hell out of protesters. In that case no amount of non-violence will make a positive difference, the government still wants to wipe them out. It's left to the international commmunity to help.

Chrisbenogor:

The same way america wanted to help iraq abi? How many people paid for it with their lives? There is no need to reply you, we shall see one year from now where libya would be.

onye_ngbu*:

The feeling of knowing that the world watched while Gaddafi wiped out his people is more unbearable than knowing that libya is in a war/occupied due to UN intervention.

LoveKing:

Regard or disregard this. The Outcome of this 'no fly zone' in the next couple of days will trigger a disastrous effect, WWIII. You'all be ready, seems every country wants to flex powers just like 1914. Smh

tpiah!:

what does a no flight zone entail.

aguiyi:

^^^ it forbids the use of flight as such flight will be brought down i.e, air crafts are not permitted to fly around that territory (demilitarization)

Kobojunkie:

I understand why the U.S has refused to step in front of this. It is the U.N that has instituted this NO-FLY zone now, not the U.S. Let us please not confuse the two.
I get that the U.N is hesitant in this case since it has to tread lightly where Arabs are involved, however, people, all over the nation have been calling for a NO-Fly zone for weeks now. And I am glad the U.N has finally obliged them.

For you however to now PRETEND this is mainly about OIL is you not being entirely fair. For you to even attempt to suggest that Ghaddaffi was telling the truth when he invited, monitored and directed the media to exactly where he would have them be, is another sign that you have probably weaved yourself and your take already on a situation still unfolding right before our eyes.
I am sorry but I refuse at this point to engage you any further as it has become a bit clear to me where you may be going with this and I believe there are other debates more worthy of my time than this one with you.

Chrisbenogor:

The same way america wanted to help iraq abi? How many people paid for it with their lives? There is no need to reply you, we shall see one year from now where libya would be.

aguiyi:

Libya is far better than 75% of other african nations yet her people would not see the americanization or is it recolonization that is imminent  

aguiyi:

Libya is far better than 75% of other african nations yet her people would not see the americanization or is it recolonization that is imminent  

Blazing99:

The Libyan Situation
- People protest against Ghadaffi's rule,
- Protesters were armed and seen as rebels
- Ghadaffi attacks them
- They come out with their full weapons and declare war on Ghadaffi and start dominating cities
- Ghadaffi tries to take the Libyan cities back by fighting the rebels
- Ghadaffi is successfully taking back his cities, killing rebels with civilian casualties(happens in every war)
- UN/US/EU create propaganda that Ghadaffi is a madman ready to massacre his own people, they freeze his funds
- US/EU think they must act in their bid to democratize the whole world, now push to impose a no-fly zone in Libya, shooting down any aircraft that flies in Libya.

To me, this issue is a Libyan own and should be solved by the Libyans. The outside world really has no business in this. They say Ghadafi is murdering his people but how many people have died? Less than a 1000. There is civil war in Libya and these things happen. Why can't the western world just give sanctions if they think the government is handling issues wrongly? Rather they put themselves in the war. This would further create a worser scenario in Libya. If Ghadaffi's war against the rebels is costs about 1000 deaths expect hundreds of thousands if US/EU/UN intervenes.

They said Saddam was a madman with weapons of mass destruction. But we were not hearing killing or bombings in Iraq. Only for the US to invade to turn their land to that of terror costing over half a million lives.

LET THE WORLD LEARN FROM IRAQ

Sun of god:

When are the UN going to intervene in Bahrain, Saudi, Yemen, Oman, Algeria, etc?

Anyway, the hypocritical nature of the UN/West is there for all to see.

Arab nations have in their stupidity been turned against one another.

I dont think a regional war can be ruled out.

So the UN want us to believe that 'Lebanon' lead the way. Who fell for that one?

Most of these nations that want to bomb Libya are indebted to it.

The problem they have now is that unlike other 'Muslim' countries they have invaded this wont be straightforward.

Gaddafi still has support inside Libya - Therefore Gadaffi still has the upper hand.

The only mistake he has made to date is offering up his WMD's - big mistake.

For that reason he is being 'Hussled' now by the west.

You wont see the UN/West threatening to invade Iran/North Korea anytime soon because they are armed to defend themselves.

As for France - They are clearly vulnerable to an attack on their Nuclear facilities. They need to hope this does not back fire on them.

Finally, how Iran alligns itself is going to be key. Israel know this and will eventually have to fight the war that has been prolonged for too long with the 'Muslim' middle east.

buJu-234:

I am not a supporter of Gaddafi; but I think the UN is somehow partial here;

if a no-fly zone is passed on Libya SKY; then similar thing should be done in places like:-

(1) Saudi Arabia---> for killing the Shia Moslem's protesting for their right
(2) Bahrain -----> for inviting the Saudi & UAE military to stop the same protest that is going on right now in Libya
(3) Yemen----> for killing the Shia moslem protesting for their right
(4) Israel----> for killing innocent and defend-less Palestine who are crying daily for their right to normal life
(5) Somalia ------> where Alshaba militants are killing people
(6) Ivory Coast -----> where Laurent Gbagbo is killing people for an election that he lost.

 The question is why didnt the western-power raised a resolution to intervene in the following crises above, why!!!

(1) Saudi Arabia -----> is the biggest supplier of oil to the west; so her government weather good or bad can do any thing
(2)  Bahrain -----> supplies oil to the west and also host the US military base
(3) Yemen ------> No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans
(4) Israel----> US best friend in the mid-east; there fore the west decided to close their eyes to their crimes against humanity
(5) Somalia ------>No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans
(6) Ivory Coast -----> Cocoa can be gotten from another country; so No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans

so with the above; i feel their interest is Libya oil so that companies like TOTAL; BP; STATOIL will control oil blocks there.

        DIALOGUE IS STILL THE BEST OPTION; LET GADDAFFI AND THE REPELS HOLD TALKS ORGANISED BY THE UN.

buJu-234:

I am not a supporter of Gaddafi; but I think the UN is somehow partial here;

if a no-fly zone is passed on Libya SKY; then similar thing should be done in places like:-

(1) Saudi Arabia---> for killing the Shia Moslem's protesting for their right
(2) Bahrain -----> for inviting the Saudi & UAE military to stop the same protest that is going on right now in Libya
(3) Yemen----> for killing the Shia moslem protesting for their right
(4) Israel----> for killing innocent and defend-less Palestine who are crying daily for their right to normal life
(5) Somalia ------> where Alshaba militants are killing people
(6) Ivory Coast -----> where Laurent Gbagbo is killing people for an election that he lost.

  The question is why didnt the western-power raised a resolution to intervene in the following crises above, why!!!

(1) Saudi Arabia -----> is the biggest supplier of oil to the west; so her government weather good or bad can do any thing
(2)  Bahrain -----> supplies oil to the west and also host the US military base
(3) Yemen ------> No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans
(4) Israel----> US best friend in the mid-east; there fore the west decided to close their eyes to their crimes against humanity
(5) Somalia ------>No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans
(6) Ivory Coast -----> Cocoa can be gotten from another country; so No oil to gain; so there`s no need to send their forces there; so they are free to die like the Rwandans

so with the above; i feel their interest is Libya oil so that companies like TOTAL; BP; STATOIL will control oil blocks there.         DIALOGUE IS STILL THE BEST OPTION; LET GADDAFFI AND THE REPELS HOLD TALKS ORGANISED BY THE UN.

aguiyi:

kodewrita your pposition is laughable.

sakozi has a hidden agenda in this push for intervention,otherwise ,can you explain his docile position on ivory coast?