shadeyinka:

The Universe by definition is everywhere including spaces where we have planets, stars, galaxies etc.
The Space by definition is everywhere out of the earth's atmosphere

In other words, you are defining nothing/space as an illusion of emptiness!

However, if you agree with the definition of SOMETHING/ANYTHING that has mass and occupies space, then nothing is actually a lack of SOMETHING/ANYTHING!

Then nothing cannot contain anything!
NOTE:
I agree that we define emptiness from different point of views.
A cup is always full of air (except in a vacuum) yet we call it empty because we expect a cup to contain either solids or liquids. We treat a gas tank differently though. A gas tank is not empty if we can get out gases from inside it.

However, true emptiness is a lack of anything that has mass and occupy space!

Since nothing can't exist,do you believe in infinity?

HellVictorinho:

Since nothing can't exist,do you believe in infinity?

Infinity is a mathematical concept for values too small or values too large for attributing numerical values.

shadeyinka:

Infinity is a mathematical concept for values too small or values too large for attributing numerical values.

I'm talking philosophy.
Do you believe there are infinite things?

N A T U R E.

HellVictorinho:

I'm talking philosophy.
Do you believe there are infinite things?

We've am talking logic and science!

Philosophy should not contradict either!

shadeyinka:

We've am talking logic and science!

Philosophy should not contradict either!

I want a yes or a no.
Do you believe there are infinite things?
Do you believe there are things infinitely beyond the universe?

HellVictorinho:

I want a yes or a no.
Do you believe there are infinite things?
Do you believe there are things infinitely beyond the universe?

I have answered your question already:
Infinity is a mathematical concept for values too small or values too large for attributing numerical values

Infinity is just a way of owning up to the fact that our abilities cannot grasp the mathematical value of the description at hand.

A scientist is able to ascribe values to the total number of water molecules in a cup of water: while a non scientist will probably say the number is uncountable(infinity).

In other words, its not a YES or NO answer: it is a relative question.

shadeyinka:

I have answered your question already:
Infinity is a mathematical concept for values too small or values too large for attributing numerical values

Infinity is just a way of owning up to the fact that our abilities cannot grasp the mathematical value of the description at hand.

A scientist is able to ascribe values to the total number of water molecules in a cup of water: while a non scientist will probably say the number is uncountable(infinity).

In other words, its not a YES or NO answer: it is a relative question.

You're dodging the point.
I am talking about what exists outside the universe but you keep talking about what exists inside it.
There are no mathematical values for things that are not limited or things that exist outside the universe.
A number is used to represent a limit.
There are no numbers in the absence of limits.
Ultimately, time and space don't affect the existence of the unspecified.

HellVictorinho:

You're dodging the point.
I am talking about what exists outside the universe but you keep talking about what exists inside it.
There are no mathematical values for things that are not limited or things that exist outside the universe.
A number is used to represent a limit.
There are no numbers in the absence of limits.
Ultimately, time and space don't affect the existence of the unspecified.

I don't believe that the number of stars in the universe is infinity: however I know that they are very large and beyond the frontiers of knowledge.

Is the diameter of the universe infinity? No one knows for our universe may simply be a subset of another universe.

In both cases above, it's the TRUTH/FACTS vs LIMITATION human knowledge

shadeyinka:

I don't believe that the number of stars in the universe is infinity: however I know that they are very large and beyond the frontiers of knowledge.

Is the diameter of the universe infinity? No one knows for our universe may simply be a subset of another universe.

In both cases above, it's the TRUTH/FACTS vs LIMITATION human knowledge

I am not talking about the diameter of the universe!!!!!!!!!
Besides,if the universe really exists as SOMETHING or a group of things,then it has limits/boundaries.
But I'm actually talking about what exists OUTSIDE it!!!!!!!!!!!
The stars also have limits since they exist within SOMETHING!!!!!!!!
But you have to tell me what you think concerning the OUTSIDE because the universe cannot be a subset of another universe!!!!!!!
The set theory cannot be applied here!!!!!
It's about reasoning!!!!!!!!!
So,tell me what you see outside a limited universe!!!!!!!!!
If SOMETHING such as the universe exists,then it's also limited!!!!
So,there must be other things outside it!!!!!!!
Although I can't specify what exists outside the universe, it's impossible for NOTHING to exist!!!!!

shadeyinka:

I don't believe that the number of stars in the universe is infinity: however I know that they are very large and beyond the frontiers of knowledge.

Is the diameter of the universe infinity? No one knows for our universe may simply be a subset of another universe.

In both cases above, it's the TRUTH/FACTS vs LIMITATION human knowledge

I never said the number of bla bla bla is infinity.
I only said that numbers are used to express the limit of SOMETHING like the universe..

HellVictorinho:

I never said the number of bla bla bla is infinity.
I only said that numbers are used to express the limit of SOMETHING like the universe..

I didn't say you did!
I was only giving you an example of why a YES or NO answer is inappropriate

HellVictorinho:

I am not talking about the diameter of the universe!!!!!!!!!
Besides,if the universe really exists as SOMETHING or a group of things,then it has limits/boundaries.
But I'm actually talking about what exists OUTSIDE it!!!!!!!!!!!
The stars also have limits since they exist within SOMETHING!!!!!!!!
But you have to tell me what you think concerning the OUTSIDE because the universe cannot be a subset of another universe!!!!!!!
The set theory cannot be applied here!!!!!
It's about reasoning!!!!!!!!!
So,tell me what you see outside a limited universe!!!!!!!!!
If SOMETHING such as the universe exists,then it's also limited!!!!
So,there must be other things outside it!!!!!!!
Although I can't specify what exists outside the universe, it's impossible for NOTHING to exist!!!!!

One has to be outside the universe to see the limit of the universe or to encounter a barrier within the universe.
None of these two has been established till today!

Only God can be outside the Universe, for in Him we live and move and have our being!

shadeyinka:

One has to be outside the universe to see the limit of the universe or to encounter a barrier within the universe.
None of these two has been established till today!

Only God can be outside the Universe, for in Him we live and move and have our being!

I don't have to be outside the universe to know it has limits as SOMETHING!!!!!!!
If it has no limit as SOMETHING,then it doesn't really exist as SOMETHING!!!!!!!
Therefore,it doesn't make sense to say the universe exists as SOMETHING when you don't believe it has limits!!!!!!
Ultimately,there must be other things outside the universe towards infinity!!!!!!!!

shadeyinka:

I didn't say you did!
I was only giving you an example of why a YES or NO answer is inappropriate

Your reason wasn't good enough!!!!!!
You don't have to be inconclusive when a question is given the way I did!!!!!!
I have elaborated towards bla bla bla towards clarity!!!!!!
In other words,I have done what I have to do so that you will be able to say yes or no!!!!
If you believe there are things outside the universe and these things don't make up another SOMETHING,say it!!!!

HellVictorinho:

I don't have to be outside the universe to know it has limits as SOMETHING!!!!!!!
If it has no limit as SOMETHING,then it doesn't really exist as SOMETHING!!!!!!!
Therefore,it doesn't make sense to say the universe exists as SOMETHING when you don't believe it has limits!!!!!!
Ultimately,there must be other things outside the universe towards infinity!!!!!!!!

What then is outside our universe?

HellVictorinho:

Your reason wasn't good enough!!!!!!
You don't have to be inconclusive when a question is given the way I did!!!!!!
I have elaborated towards bla bla bla towards clarity!!!!!!
In other words,I have done what I have to do so that you will be able to say yes or no!!!!
If you believe there are things outside the universe and these things don't make up another SOMETHING,say it!!!!

Does every question have a Yes or No Answer?

shadeyinka:

What then is outside our universe?

Other things towards infinity towards the absence of NOTHING.

shadeyinka:

Does every question have a Yes or No Answer?

Ok, I have heard you.
You can't answer with a yes or a no.