budaatum:


I did not watch the video because it is private, and even if I had watched it I still would have used my brain instead of ignorantly stupidly believing a video, which shows how little research you have done.

JW is absolutely nothing to do with Freemasonry, and most JWs are completely ignorant about Freemasonry, which they would see as devil worship.

That is however not to say individual JWs can not be Freemasons, but we don't do religion in the Lodge.

budaatum:


That is however not to say individual JWs can not be Freemasons, but we don't do religion in the Lodge.

Courz:
I also got to know about threesomes happening in the Beloved Igeduma Bethel. The stories even leaked and spread around the neighbouring congregations there

Wow JWs looooooove to get down like that? After some hard days work of preaching I guess.

oteneaaron:


Say what you must bro.

I only shared the video to trigger a conversation - it's private now, and I don't why.

And in terms of whether or not I have done any research concerning the topic in question, you have no idea how far down this rabbit hole I have gone.

Take a trip down memory lane into the history of the JW organization and you might be led to a different conclusion.

Cheers!

oteneaaron:


I hope you don't mind me asking, are you a Mason?

budaatum:


The fact you posted a video shows how little research you actually have done, and a simple search on Nairaland would show you how much more research you could have done instead of allowing yourself to be led "far down this rabbit hole".

You are not even aware that going down rabbit holes implies you've gone on a pointless journey that's "led" you to false conclusions. The "led" even shows you are just parroting what you've been led to believe instead of doing the research yourself.

JWs are very ignorant about Freemasonry for starts, which shouldn't be the case if they were tied. You'd know this if you had done the research you claim you did.

budaatum:


No, I am not a Mason. One does not enter Apprenticeship and remain there forever, for that is like passing out of primary school but remaining there instead of advancing to secondary school and then university.

oteneaaron:

You do have a point and I must admit that.

But instead of discounting my research, how do explain the Masonic Symbology that is littered in the works of the founder of the organization Charles Taze Russell?

oteneaaron:
Even reading some of the books he wrote like the Finished Mystery, I found out that he based his calculations and teachings of the 1914 end-of-the-wold doctrine based on his study of Great Pyramid of Giza. The 1914 end of the world prediction turned out to be false though.

oteneaaron:
So what is the reason for all of the Masonic symbology and paraphernalia if he didn't have ties to Freemasonry?

oteneaaron:
So I ask you, can you kindly clear the air on the misconceptions many people have about Freemasonry?

At least cure us of our ignorance.

Cheers!

Courz:
Preaching in the day, Sexing at Night. Preaching in the day, Rituals at Night! Wife swapping, Homosexuality, Raping of children and threesomes. Then Preaching the next day again! Ooooooh what a shame!!!!
Spiritual Paradise! A better performing group Indeed!

budaatum:

Marketing. Freemasonry was a huge thing when JWs began, and knowledge of it implied a higher level of understanding.

It's like if I start a church in Nigeria today and stick an Eye of Providence on my logo. Some will flock to condemn me, some will come out of curiosity and some will come because they understand.


And I am certain you are aware Masonry does not do end of world, especially since you claim you researched. Or did you only research JW and not Masonry?


Again, marketing. It sells.



One of the fundamental differences between Christianity as practised by the majority, and Freemasonry, is that Freemasonry insists on not feeding you in case you accept the food as something you must believe. That's why Freemasonry insists that you ask and knock and seek with your own heart and your own soul and being to cure yourself of your own ignorance instead of someone else pastoring beliefs to you. Part of the curing is in the journey, you see. Asking and knocking and seeking is like iron that sharpens your heart and your soul and all your other senses, which is what qualifies you to work with mason.

Do some work reading Masonic books. It will show you how utterly ignorant JWs are of Freemasonry. As for misconceptions, Ignorance, just as is being shown in this thread.

Here's a lifetime read. It is not where to start, but you'd know where to go.

oteneaaron:

I get you.

If I may ask, how far along are you on this journey? - That is from being an apprentice and climbing up the degrees of the Fraternity.

oteneaaron:
How much access to ancient knowledge from antiquity have you personally had access to?

oteneaaron:
In your honest opinion, is Freemasonry as an organization working towards the good of humanity as a whole, and if yes - HOW?

I am curious.

Courz:
A bunch of American Con men appeared from Nowhere and made claims and you believed them! They came and replaced Jesus Christ as your Mediator and you still call yourselves Christians.

Courz:
Why do you JWs allow a bunch of American Con artists to replace Jesus Christ as Substitutes? How did you all allow this to happen under your very Nose? Other translations Use the word AMBASSADORS. Your fraudulent Bible adds SUBSTITUTES. where will you see the Greek word for SUBSTITUTE there? Why? Don't you JWs read your Bibles? This is why they keep making new versions of bibles in order to add, subtract and replace words.

A bunch of Freemasons came to knock off Jesus Christ from his right position in your Christian lives and you all agreed with that? Why do they teach that Jesus is NOT your mediator? If he's not, then who is?

MaxInDHouse:

Can you tell this forum what Jesus meant by the statement found at Matthew 25:31-46
Then what is Jesus (the lamb) doing with (only) the 144,000! Revelations 14:1

Courz:
I don't give a shit about quoting you. I don't need to. You JWs argue in circles. You argue like ROBOTS, giving already made Robotic Watchtower responses which are signs of BRAINWASHING. Nobody has time for that. Your responses are NOTHING SPECIAL NOTHING NEW. NO UNIQUENESS, SAME OLD BULLSHIT! I would not keep posting in this thread if I was truly scared of anyone. I am only here for Whistleblowing NOT STUPID ARGUMENTS THAT LEAD TO NOWHERE!!! I got more to post so stay tuned!!!

budaatum:

I was never an apprentice. I was fortunate to have a father who was a Roc, so skipped the degrees of Masonry.


Apart from having a Roc as a father, I also have access to lots of books and now the internet. Of course, I had to read them to have access.


Freemasons build. The modern form evolved from Masons who built the cathedrals in Europe some of which took hundreds of years to build.

The Master Mason was responsible for training apprentices and organising the work, and I am certain you can see for yourself if what they built still stands and the benefit of training those who built them.

The church is a symbol for the human, and as someone is written to have once said, "the work is plenty and the workers are few", so Freemasonry trains apprentices.

That said, Christianity and Islam and JW are "organization working towards the good of humanity as a whole" too. Just that all organisations have bad apples in them, and that's what some seem to focus on.

Thanks budaatum.

Your first hand experience and knowledge of the inner workings of freemasonry practically exposed the GIBBERISH that Courz posted.

Original Poster, Courz continue your buffoonery, DECEIVING yourself.