Magnoliaa:
The same men that'll argue with you that men and women are biologically different and that men are on the average, bigger, stronger, taller, etc., than women are, are here trying to convince us that same men are on the receiving end of domestic violence just as much as women are. Beautiful.




And na dem e sabi pain pass. Crying about simps who do not care about them every minute of the day.

Magnoliaa:


You can throw around insults from now 'til night draws nigh. It takes nothing from me.

I won't believe that what you say is true unless you can back it up. Do both sexes experience DV? Yes, that is true. At the same rate? No. That was what Dominique quoted you to say before you clapped back with your sexual slur. If you were not trying to compare the rate at which each of the sex experiences DV, you'd have said that.

So as it is now, if your intent for that comment was to point out that men face DV as much as women do, it falls flat. It's wrong. It's nothing more than just an opinion. That has no basis in reality.

TONYE001:


Don't get, please.

Where are the emotions? What I put up there are facts and you say I'm emotional?

Wish you'd present your facts too and not attack my person.

Connected1:

I don't do presentation.

Women are the ones who cry and wail most times, those raised by their mothers can tell you that, if a mother feeds the home for a day, she would make the immature children believe that the father isn't doing well at all and he leaves the home responsibilities for her.

Many Children grow up with that mentality and they foolish hate their fathers until their own children do same to them then they realise the mistakes.

You will never hear a Nigerian man wail and complain that his sick/pregnant/tired wife leaves the house chores for him alone, men do it without raising an alarm.

You all know Nigerian men don't admire equality in their homes but you try to force them to do it, you try to force and instill a white man's culture in us, that's pathetic, the West and America is open, go there get married to their men, but I don't think they want you guys.

Too many women go to church but don't understand the teachings of the bible nor do they know how to use it to run their homes, all they know is to call one small boy Daddy.

We should all go back to the old ways, I don't see the usefulness of these churches anymore.

Rubbish.

Connected1:

I don't do presentation.

Women are the ones who cry and wail most times, those raised by their mothers can tell you that, if a mother feeds the home for a day, she would make the immature children believe that the father isn't doing well at all and he leaves the home responsibilities for her.

Many Children grow up with that mentality and they foolish hate their fathers until their own children do same to them then they realise the mistakes.

You will never hear a Nigerian man wail and complain that his sick/pregnant/tired wife leaves the house chores for him alone, men do it without raising an alarm.

You all know Nigerian men don't admire equality in their homes but you try to force them to do it, you try to force and instill a white man's culture in us, that's pathetic, the West and America is open, go there get married to their men, but I don't think they want you guys.

Too many women go to church but don't understand the teachings of the bible nor do they know how to use it to run their homes, all they know is to call one small boy Daddy.

We should all go back to the old ways, I don't see the usefulness of these churches anymore.

Rubbish.

Magnoliaa:


Okay... here are investigations that have been made, asking questions and then providing answers. If you truly believed so, have you made this research before coming here to type what you just typed? Why did you jump into conclusions and went ahead to pronounce a verdict when you wanted more investigation to be made?

- These are facts about how poverty of women and domestic violence go hand-in-hand:

https://www.safehousecenter.org/the-intersection-of-domestic-violence-and-poverty/

https://cpag.org.uk/news-blogs/news-listings/domestic-abuse-economic-issue-%E2%80%93-its-victims-and-society

- Testimonies shared by victims of domestic violence themselves: REALLY READ IT AND DIGEST and do not go off about something else with me. You asked for findings, right?

https://www.domesticshelters.org/articles/true-survivor-stories

https://safelives.org.uk/news-views/real-life-stories

- The behaviours of abusers, since you claim no sane man can just lay a finger on his wife without cause:

https://ncadv.org/signs-of-abuse

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Did you know that the late Minister submitted her salary to her husband? Did you know that this husband controlled her account and was more or less her manager, wielding control over the shows and contracts she gets? Does that look like a woman who is bragging with the small money she has to you?

You also want to tell me that you've not seen people FOR NO REASON, who are wicked and always angry and always bully people? You have never seen an innocent person being assaulted before? You don't see kids get beaten when they've done no wrong... you don't literally see these things, since you claim these things do not happen without provocation?

Okay, okay, if a wife is verbally abusive to her husband, what did the husband do to provoke her to insulting him?

I know my gender, I can vouch for them here. No sensible woman with a correct head will start insulting a man if he didn't ask for it. Every man turns a woman into a beast of an emotional abuser. Check well, the man deserve it. Abi abi you want to tell me that domestic abuse against a woman is caused by a woman, but emotional abuse against a man is not caused by the man? You see how that sounds, yeah?

But if you believe women can be emotional and verbal abusers without a triggering factor, independently, why do you not believe men can be physical abusers without a triggering factor, independently too?

How about traditional, uneducated housewives who believe a man is the head and that divorce is not an option, who still get beaten on top?

These women are completely virtuous and submissive to their husbands and they don't make money, so they don't even raise their voices back at their husbands, yet they still get beaten? What will you say about that?

Oh, or perhaps you will justify the abuses Nigerians face in the hands of police, soldiers and SARS officials. Have you ever been a victim? Have you ever been harassed by someone bigger than you? Someone of a higher authority and you're helpless and defenseless? Boya, we should switch this on you and use you as a case study. I am anticipating your response. Let us see if you have ever deserved the injustice that has ever been meted out to you at one point or the other. Let's know if you're also responsible for it because of your mouth and your behaviour.

Oh, and don't come at me with you said, "some of these women." That's not going to fly with me. And what you will not do is have me believe there are c.r.a.z.y b.i.t.c.h.e.s who run their mouths and are bad, but that there aren't crazy niggas who use their hands and weights.

Aydot351:
I dated this girl years back, she really loved arguments and she picked fights from anything. We had an argument one day and she physically assaulted me telling me to do my worst, i grabbed her and pushed away and left her telling her its over. Recently a friend was telling me how her new guy beats and assaults her and i wasnt suprised lol. Sometimes dealing with ladies require a lot of patience which some men do not have

Kobojunkie:
The story you just told is pathetic abeg!

If you were physically assaulted by an ex, and chose not to report it to the police because you didn't consider it much, that is no reason why you should go around thinking pummeling woman for many physically assaulting you is correct.

Your claim the other is your friend, why not ask her to report to the cops or leave the relationship?

And by the way, every human relationship requires patience, whether you are dealing with kids or adults, na patience im all be. But abuse should not be tolerated no matter the kind..

Bonesbreaker:
serious don't have your time let me drop one of the links here you can go though it yourself and have peace of mind this is one, we have many of true confessions about it,

but you never get to see it more serious reasons they are men,boys,man but any little thing you see alot wailering and frigging from women,yes women are abused too but men also have more of it though hidden or oppressed not to speak out.
https://www.nairaland.com/7066779/guys-share-experience-sexual-abuse#111726540

TONYE001:


But really, there are happy and great homes too. This is our eight year in marriage and my wife and I were classmates in the university and we dated right from year 2. Honestly, we have never had any heated argument right from the start. Once in a while one party may offend the other and we may argue about stuffs (which is normal in life) but nothing ever gets heated.

I think it all boils down to what you want. As a couple, if you want peace, you must learn to forgive and overlook things. No sin is too big to forgive! Even if you decide not to get married, remember you'd continue to have dealings with people...at your workplace, in your neighbourhood, etc. We all need to learn how to live with others.

I have always believed that if you can have a roommate and live peacefully for years, you can have a wife and live peacefully. No two ways about this.

Note that this is not an attack on you for deciding not to get married. I'm only telling the tale from another perspective...

Bonesbreaker:
serious don't have your time let me drop one of the links here you can go though it yourself and have peace of mind this is one, we have many of true confessions about it,

but you never get to see it more serious reasons they are men,boys,man but any little thing you see alot wailering and frigging from women,yes women are abused too but men also have more of it though hidden or oppressed not to speak out.
https://www.nairaland.com/7066779/guys-share-experience-sexual-abuse#111726540

It's funny to me, though, that Nairaland is your go-to source for evidences in a discussion like this. How brilliant.

You say any little thing women are always wailing and frigging and whatnot?

Somebody just died, an avoidable death, and you think we're all making noise? I know you've misplaced your empathy but you didn't have to broadcast it to the whole world like this.

So, why do you have issue with women speaking up about a woman's death? Are you saying that's not right? Should we overlook women's abuse because men get abused too? Is it wrong to speak out?

Has anybody speaking up for women's abuses told you not to speak up about men's abuses? Because I'm trying to understand your grouse here.

Now men are speaking up, and you showed two threads here on Nairaland about men's abuses. Why did you have to come here to shut people up about speaking up for women? Why did you have to bring it up inside here?

NewSoul:
No matter how violent or hot tempered a man is. Nothing in this world will make him hit his submissive and quiet wife. A quiet woman never get beaten- Dr D.K. Olukoya (General overseer M.F.M)

TONYE001:


Sadly, there are too many generalizations in your submission.

There are many women that sponsor their homes happily and they don't make noise about it. There are many men that complain that their wives don't do chores at home. See?

Let's talk briefly about the old days. Those days, recall that men provide for their homes? I mean, men provide all the resources while the women manage the homes. True? How many men can do this? Today, women have to work to support their homes. If you go out at 8am and return at 5am, and your wife does the same, and you both return home tired and spent, why would you want your wife to do the chores and prepare the dishes? How about doing all these things with her? See my point?

Well, we both have our opinions and going back and forth would only be too stressful. Let's leave it here and wish for the best for us all.

Datikwerreboi:

You can't tell people how to react when you anger them. More reason why conflict should be resolved in the most amicable ways. It's very rare to see a submissive and non-verbal abusive woman been hit,just one off cases. Yes both men and women have a role. I'm only pointing out that it is not one way as some of you females claim BC we well know how you people use your mouth to set up men in anger even when it is not needed. Then when the man reacts u cry foul . Why don't you all find a way not to be verbally abusive

BigJoe29:
After all the stupid arguments their spouse would still beat them in the real world, continue being an online feminist while you dey collect steady.

Magnoliaa:


After all the stupid arguments their spouse would still make them wash pants, cook food, do domestic chores and emotionally abuse them in the real world, continue being an online macho man and redpiller while you dey collect steady.

BRATISLAVA:
Looool.

The way they've normalized battery is funny. May their evil remain in their homes since they love and advocate it so much.

Isee. I will return it back to him in equal folds. He think say he wise fit stay for corner dey throw shades. I will mention his baga and catch the sub well and direct my own back.

I stay petty and triggered. *inserts nail-painting emoji here*.

Magnoliaa:


Nairaland link? Eweeeeee. Since when did Nairaland become a source of authority for incontrovertible evidence and researches?

I ain't taking this. You can find proofs for virtually every thing online. I need stats, dude. Quantitative research showing the rates for each sex. Do you know what comparison mean? Are you getting me at all? I have no denied that men don't face abuses, again. I have not. And I have not said those guys' experiences aren't true. I am simply asking you to show me how men have MORE OF IT MORE THAN WOMEN. So what you'll do is to bring DV facts and stats for women, bring DV facts and stats for men and compare them.

Do you think thousands of women too aren't pressurised into keeping quiet? This woman too and many others keep their experiences under wrap and protect their abuses. It is when they die that everything comes out. Because I can easily claim too than MORE WOMEN than men too are not speaking out, that we don't know of.

So let us deal with recorded and observable realities of DV as it relates to both men and women. Thank you.

Bonesbreaker:
so Nairaland is not good enough right ? just get out you can never see any reason in my point so no need we arguing again here since you have retired that nairaland is never enough here so no need i educating you more. Good day Miss

Datikwerreboi:
The problem is that some of u ladies are ediots and stupid esp u, ask your useless mother those questions and your harlot sister . Then relate to your worthless brother what he will do if his crazy wife continue to abuse him
Then come back and tell me

Datikwerreboi:

The problem is that some of u ladies are ediots and stupid esp u, ask your useless mother those questions and your harlot sister . Then relate to your worthless brother what he will do if his crazy wife continue to abuse him
Then come back and tell me

Magnoliaa:


I told you I am here to provoke you and to keep you on your toes. I can understand if it was me you were insulting, ko si wahala.
But without being provoked, why are you being verbally abusive to a lady who has been nothing but civil to you? What in her questions brought about the disrespect? It got to you, ba? Now aren't you being a beast like the women you're castigating? You see how even without doing nada to you, consider how you responded. And you think some men cannot be physical beasts without cause. You're a perfect example.

Sha answer her questions. Na she ask o, but na me go press you to answer. Oya, fast now.

She also mentioned some instances which you conveniently ignored, I see. How sweet.

Yewandequeen:


You do not deserve to be amongst the Sane and neither do you deserve my reply, your moniker says it all.

Magnoliaa:


I told you I am here to provoke you and to keep you on your toes. I can understand if it was me you were insulting, ko si wahala.
But without being provoked, why are you being verbally abusive to a lady who has been nothing but civil to you? What in her questions brought about the disrespect? It got to you, ba? Now aren't you being a beast like the women you're castigating? You see how even without doing nada to you, consider how you responded. And you think some men cannot be physical beasts without cause. You're a perfect example.

Sha answer her questions. Na she ask o, but na me go press you to answer. Oya, fast now.

She also mentioned some instances which you conveniently ignored, I see. How sweet.

Yewandequeen:
He is a typical example of the beastie men

And I get bulala for him. Make e carry on.

Datikwerreboi:
Same insensitive well u ladies talk that get u beaten up and killed. U people will never learn

NewSoul:

You should have trained her in kicking and given her a rainboot to kick balls

Damn nasty!

Magnoliaa:


Oga, we have gotten over than fact since 1966. Answer the babe's questions, let's hear.

Why did you become insulting to a person who has been civil to you?