Obafavour:

This should be the link
https://www.goshen.edu/bio/Biol410/bsspapers02/alyssa.htm
Just go through the link, so many scientist proofs that was later found wrong, only the bible stand on the same proof, but the scientists keep proving themselves wrong.
Only GOD knw what the scientists of the next generation and century will prove.

Maynman:


You mean you compared the evolution story and Bible creation story and you use the same standard for 2 of them, it was the Bible that made more sense?

Obafavour:

This is the link
https://bibleprophecyandtruth.com/creation/creationVSevolution?gClid
You can go through it to see more, nt sure of the first one.

savesoulmejjj:
. Does God truly cares ? Why would a Parent with just one Daughter lost there only daughter even when the parent are sooo old and may not be able to have another Child ? is that Good thing to experience how Good can that be called

Maynman:


So many scientists have also disprove the Bible, that’s why I said you should use same standard. And God is a title not a person.

Obafavour:

Accepted, but if you understand the content you will see there are small gods and the almighty GOD.
God reveals himself to people, he does so in exactly the language concept and cultural context of those specific people, that was why god is a title in hebrew.
But futher we are to know there is difference between the almighty GOD and the material god of israel, only synonymous with name. God was given the name of israel material god because he reveal himself to them according to their cultural context, here in yoruba we call him eledumare, aditu and all other because he reveal himself according to our cultural context.
So i don't still the point u want to bring out or the reason why you believe GOD doesn't exist.

Maynman:


What context, you mean out of the gods your own is the right one? All of them claim it too.
Beside god is a title not a person.
Please don’t confuse Yahweh for eledumare, they are different.

Obafavour:

I understand ur problem it's confusion u only read but u don't understand the content.
Accepted god isn't a name but a title, the research u did that u found out that god isn't a name but a title u didn't see it there that when some the isrealites forbade their material god they gave those material gods names to the almighty GOD cos that's is the only name given to a super being in their culture.
In yoruba when we want to call olorun we call him different names like eledua, eledumare, aditu and others like the isreal call GOD yaweh, elohim and others still refering to the same person.

Maynman:


“God” is a title and English word, do Jews speak English? You are the one that don’t know what you are saying.
What do Israelites call “god. They speak Hebrew not English.
Olorun is not “god”, olorun is olorun. “God” is not a Yoruba word.
This is eledumare and it has history , look it up and don’t be ignorant.

Obafavour:

You're still confused, who do isrealites call all those names?
Who yoruba call all those names?

Maynman:

You are the one confused, do “Israelites” speak English? Why not research on what they call their supreme being.
Do Yoruba speak English? Why not research on what they call their supreme being, do that for other tribes.
Again, God is a title not a person, Zeus, Odin, Jupiter, Yahweh, Allah all of them are called that.
Eledumare is different from Yahweh, Zeus, Allah, Odin, don’t be ignorant. Where in Yoruba history did olorun give birth to a Jew man, called “Jesus
This is the story of how eledumare created earth.

Obafavour:

I get ur point, you're just based on history of how yoruba and isreal gave their creation story.
The defination of GOD is supreme being believed to create the whole universe.
Ok what do you have to say about the christians in isreal that call the same person all this isreal material god names like elohim and yahweh.
Do you mean they're refering to their material god?

Obafavour:

I get ur point, you're just based on history of how yoruba and isreal gave their creation story.
The defination of GOD is supreme being believed to create the whole universe.
Ok what do you have to say about the christians in isreal that call the same person all this isreal material god names like elohim and yahweh.
Do you mean they're refering to their material god?

Obafavour:

I get ur point, you're just based on history of how yoruba and isreal gave their creation story.
The defination of GOD is supreme being believed to create the whole universe.
Ok what do you have to say about the christians in isreal that call the same person all this isreal material god names like elohim and yahweh.
Do you mean they're refering to their material god?

Maynman:


You are sending me to a Bible and Christian link, we have other links who disprove your Bible too, use same standard for both.

Obafavour:

You can provide the link.
But on a neutral status, a question was asked that "what if GOD created everything but through evolution?"
That was my believe and still my believe, i believe in both GOD and in science.

But what do have to say about secular scientist?

Maynman:


Zeus is a supreme being
Odin is a supreme being
Jupiter is a supreme being.

Is Yahweh and Zeus the same?, since you are comparing Yahweh and eledumare.

Maynman:


The people in isreal are not referred to as “christians”, “Christian” is a Greek word, do they speak Greek in Israel?
What’s the origin of the word “Elohim” and “Yahweh”?

Obafavour:

Still on same point, the only material god name in isreal used in calling this GOD, zeus and odin are nt included.
The only names i know are elohim, yahweh and i think jehovah.
Those that call that supreme being those names in isreal do you mean they are refering to those material god?

Obafavour:

So you mean there are no followers of christ in isreal?

Maynman:


Which “God”, god is a title not a person.

Obafavour:

The supreme being the christian worships.
And we call him the names the isreal call their material god.
But nt refering to them, we give this supreme being names given to the material gods of isreal.
We call him olodumare because yoruba believed he is the supreme being that created heaven and earth, our stories might be different but we give him names of those deities yoruba, isreal and all others call their god , becos those are the names given to a supreme being.
Try to understand me, don't get confused of what i'm saying.

Maynman:


“Christ” is a Greek word derived from Hebrew messiah.
Israelites practice Judaism, when Jesus was alive he was a Judaist.

orisa37:
YOU KILL YOURSELF. YOU MURDER YOURSELF. YOU SPLIT HUMAN BLOOD, YOUR BLOOD.
SO YOU'RE A FRUSTRATED FOOL.

Obafavour:

Who said jesus was a christian?
Even primary school student will understand what i've being saying, you reply as if your brain have been shut down.
Was it not from jesus that we derived christianity?
Ok, where was the place jesus disciples were first called christ like?

Obafavour:

Who said jesus was a christian?
Even primary school student will understand what i've being saying, you reply as if your brain have been shut down.
Was it not from jesus that we derived christianity?
Ok, where was the place jesus disciples were first called christ like?

Obafavour:

Who said jesus was a christian?
Even primary school student will understand what i've being saying, you reply as if your brain have been shut down.
Was it not from jesus that we derived christianity?
Ok, where was the place jesus disciples were first called christ like?

Maynman:


You are saying rubbish, Zeus, Jupiter, Allah and Odin are supreme beings, are they Yahweh too?

Obafavour:

You're are having a bigger problem than i thought.
We don't call that supreme being those deties names, the deties names we call him are what i've mentioned.
[/b]Like elohim, yahweh, olodumare, aditu, jehovah, olorun e.t.c. Simple.[b]
We don't call him all deties names, only specific ones.

Obafavour:

You're are having a bigger problem than i thought.
We don't call that supreme being those deties names, the deties names we call him are what i've mentioned.
Like elohim, yahweh, olodumare, aditu, jehovah, olorun e.t.c. Simple.
We don't call him all deties names, only specific ones.