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| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Igboslayer: 9:59am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Nothing there.. he was not convicted for drug trafficking. The people trafficking drugs were properly established… some of their money was found in his account and hence the forfeiture. If he was involved, he would have been arrested and sent to trial. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Dmama1991: 9:59am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Two men were governors, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu in Lagos State and Peter Obi in Anambra. Towards the end of their second term, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu in Lagos sent his retirement bill and got his House of Assembly to approve what you see below as his yearly pension. 1.300% annual salary as severance package as approved by RMAFAC. 2. 100% of annual basic salary of incumbent gov as salary for LIFE even after leaving office. 3. Six new cars every 3 years 4. A new house in Lagos, minimum 5 bedroom 5. A new house in Abuja or any other location, minimum 5 bedroom. 6. Free medical care for him and members of his family for life. 7. Entitled to cooks, stewards, Gardners, and domestic staffs, all pensionable. 8. 300% of his annual basic salary as governor every 2 years as furniture allowance 9. 100% of annual basic salary as governor as his house maintenance allowance 10. Two DSS officers, 1 female officer for his wife and eight policemen to guard him. 11. 25% of his annual basic salary for personal assistants. 12. 30% of his annual basic salary for car maintenance. 13. 20% of his annual basic salary as utilities maintenance. 14. Pensionable drivers, no limits to the number. This is apart from what Bola TINUBU gets as a percentage of collections from Alpha Beta for tax collections for Lagos State and the total control he has over the governor and the treasury. But see what Peter Obi collects from Anambra State since leaving office as governor 1. No gratuity 2. No pensions 3. No houses 4. No cars 5. No allowances of any kind 6. No maintenances of any kind. 7. No personal assistants paid by the state. 8. No domestic staffs paid by the state. 9. No aids sponsored by the state. 10. Not even pure water. 11. No shishi from the State. 12. No landed property 13. No trace of any form of corruption on him till date 14. He's still using his personal money to pay school fees for some children of the poor till date. Now the two men want to be president. So choose yours today who means well for Nigeria and who will serve the people selflessly. (You can go and verify) It got me thinking, still thinking! |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Dmama1991: 10:00am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ALTERNATEID:Two men were governors, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu in Lagos State and Peter Obi in Anambra. Towards the end of their second term, Asiwaju Bola Tinubu in Lagos sent his retirement bill and got his House of Assembly to approve what you see below as his yearly pension. 1.300% annual salary as severance package as approved by RMAFAC. 2. 100% of annual basic salary of incumbent gov as salary for LIFE even after leaving office. 3. Six new cars every 3 years 4. A new house in Lagos, minimum 5 bedroom 5. A new house in Abuja or any other location, minimum 5 bedroom. 6. Free medical care for him and members of his family for life. 7. Entitled to cooks, stewards, Gardners, and domestic staffs, all pensionable. 8. 300% of his annual basic salary as governor every 2 years as furniture allowance 9. 100% of annual basic salary as governor as his house maintenance allowance 10. Two DSS officers, 1 female officer for his wife and eight policemen to guard him. 11. 25% of his annual basic salary for personal assistants. 12. 30% of his annual basic salary for car maintenance. 13. 20% of his annual basic salary as utilities maintenance. 14. Pensionable drivers, no limits to the number. This is apart from what Bola TINUBU gets as a percentage of collections from Alpha Beta for tax collections for Lagos State and the total control he has over the governor and the treasury. But see what Peter Obi collects from Anambra State since leaving office as governor 1. No gratuity 2. No pensions 3. No houses 4. No cars 5. No allowances of any kind 6. No maintenances of any kind. 7. No personal assistants paid by the state. 8. No domestic staffs paid by the state. 9. No aids sponsored by the state. 10. Not even pure water. 11. No shishi from the State. 12. No landed property 13. No trace of any form of corruption on him till date 14. He's still using his personal money to pay school fees for some children of the poor till date. Now the two men want to be president. So choose yours today who means well for Nigeria and who will serve the people selflessly. (You can go and verify) It got me thinking, still thinking! |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by MICHEALADEX(m): 10:02am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Not possible |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ejimatic: 10:02am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Islie:It will make him more popular and suitable to win the coming election! |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by obi58: 10:02am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ladiguy: Bros if what you're saying is true, what the Police will do to you if they trace the proceeds of a kidnapping to your account? Will anybody agree that you're not a kidnapper? |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by maasoap(m): 10:02am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Disqualify him! Where? From what and how exactly?  All these miscreants just like chasing shadows |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by phobia2002: 10:06am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Useless lawyer talking about plea bargain for drug case in America. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ladiguy(m): 10:06am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Cantonese: Not disputing that. Recently Obi Cubana was invited by NDLEA funds was traced into his account by conducted drug baron residing outside (Far East) naija. You can’t take Tinubu’s to the US and you get any positive response. He has no case to answer. Make una calm down.... |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ladiguy(m): 10:06am On Nov 14, 2022 |
obi58: Not disputing that. Recently Obi Cubana was invited by NDLEA funds was traced into his account by conducted drug baron residing outside (Far East) naija. You can’t take Tinubu’s to the US and you get any positive response. He has no case to answer. Make una calm down.. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ladiguy(m): 10:07am On Nov 14, 2022 |
jairusben: Not disputing that. Recently Obi Cubana was invited by NDLEA funds was traced into his account by conducted drug baron residing outside (Far East) naija. You can’t take Tinubu’s to the US and you get any positive response. He has no case to answer. Make una calm down.. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ladiguy(m): 10:07am On Nov 14, 2022 |
lugiano1: Not disputing that. Recently Obi Cubana was invited by NDLEA funds was traced into his account by conducted drug baron residing outside (Far East) naija. You can’t take Tinubu’s to the US and you get any positive response. He has no case to answer. Make una calm down.. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ladiguy(m): 10:08am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Danking1: Not disputing that. Recently Obi Cubana was invited by NDLEA funds was traced into his account by conducted drug baron residing outside (Far East) naija. You can’t take Tinubu’s to the US and you get any positive response. He has no case to answer. Make una calm down.. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:09am On Nov 14, 2022 |
The government simply files a civil action in rem against the property itself, and then generally must prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the property is forfeitable under the applicable forfeiture statute. Civil forfeiture is independent of any criminal case, and because of this, the forfeiture action may be filed before indictment, after indictment, or even if there is no indictment. Likewise, civil forfeiture may be sought in cases in which the owner is criminally acquitted of the underlying crimes ... — Craig Gaumer, Assistant United States Attorney, 2007[23] |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:09am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Read and learn. Ignorance is the reason Nigeria remains under-developed. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:11am On Nov 14, 2022 |
News media have reported many examples: Mandrel Stuart was not charged with a crime and there was no evidence of illegal activity but police seized his money because they assumed it was drug-related:[35] Mandrel Stuart and his girlfriend were on a date driving on Interstate 66 ... The traffic stop on that balmy afternoon in August 2012 was the beginning of a dizzying encounter that would leave Stuart shaken and wondering whether he had been singled out because he was black and had a police record. Over the next two hours, he would be detained without charges, handcuffed and taken to a nearby police station ... stripped of $17,550 in cash ... earned through ... a small barbecue restaurant ... he was going to use the money that night for supplies and equipment. — report in The Washington Post, 2014[35] |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by hustla(m): 10:12am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ladiguy: E no be thief but na in house thief dey keep gun and money So wetin come be difference? If sars come your house and recover guns and money wey belong to thief, are you an accomplice or not? Will SARS not carry you to station? Una go just dey knowingly pretend like say una brain cells don kpai because una wan make thief become president |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:15am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Javier Gonzalez was carrying $10,000 cash in a briefcase and got pulled over in Texas; deputies handed Gonzalez a waiver, that if he signed over the money and did not claim it later, he would not be arrested, but if he refused to sign the waiver, Gonzalez would be arrested for money-laundering.[18] Gonzalez signed the waiver wondering if the officers were real "officers of law" and wondering if he got robbed, but later sued the county, which lost, and returned his cash plus paid him $110,000 in damages plus attorney's fees.[18] Matt Lee of Clare, Michigan, was driving to California with $2,500 cash when pulled over by police in Nevada, who seized almost all of the cash under suspicion that it was a "drug run"; Lee hired an attorney who took half as his fee, leaving Lee with only $1130 remaining.[35] I just couldn't believe that police could do that to anyone ... It's like they are at war with innocent people. — Matt Lee, interviewed in The Washington Post, 2013[35] Tan Nguyen. In 2008, a federal judge ordered $50,000 returned to a man after police seized the money during a traffic stop in Nebraska, after reviewing a recording of the seizure in which a sheriff's deputy suggested that we "take his money and, um, count it as a drug seizure".[16] Tan Nguyen's $50,000 was confiscated by police during a traffic stop, and the county agreed to return the funds after a legal challenge.[36] In May 2010 a couple was driving from New York to Florida and they were stopped by police because of a cracked windshield.[35] During questioning, the officer decided that $32,000 cash in the van was "probably involved in criminal or drug-related activity", seized it, shared it with federal authorities under equitable sharing.[35] The victim hired a lawyer to get back the seized money who urged settling for half of the seized amount, and after the lawyer's fees, the victim got back only $7,000.[35] A 2013 The New Yorker piece detailed abuses in Tenaha, Texas, where police would target out-of-state drivers using rental cars, often not issuing traffic tickets, and disproportionately pulling over African Americans and Latino-Americans.[10] Police sometimes ask stopped motorists to sign "roadside property waivers", which, unless signed, threaten criminal charges unless valuables are handed over; the waivers say, in effect, that victims will not contest the seizure in exchange for not being arrested.[10] 1 Like |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by BabaO2: 10:15am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Didijiji:Everyone is not poor, grow up man. Dangote is using mere tax waifer to construct apapa to oworonshoki road. Think man |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by ejimatic: 10:16am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Islie:. This is a case that will enhance BAT populaty. Tinubu has never been convicted in Nigeria So he is more than qualified to contest. Additionally the USA does not have any record of conviction in the USA. He never stood for any trial in the country. In my opinion BAT without any sentiment is still qualifo to contest and whoever goes to court on this matter is only undertaking in an ordinary and time-wasting academic exercise! 1 Like |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Isobug: 10:17am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Ancestortinubu:Your personal lord and saviour is a criminal. Drugs peddlers offence are life jail and death penalties |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Valuepaints20(m): 10:18am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Ok |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Alpharey: 10:20am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Had it been Peter was accused of drug related offence, that will be enough to disqualify him. That is how Nigeria works. Some certain laws are made for different people |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:20am On Nov 14, 2022 |
The Washington Post analyzed 400 seizures in 17 states that were examples of equitable sharing arrangements.[35] Police stop motorists under the pretext of a minor traffic infraction, and "analyze" the intentions of motorists by assessing nervousness, and request permission to search the vehicle without a warrant; however, of the 400 seizures studied by The Washington Post, police did not make any arrests.[ |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:22am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Seizures of funds in a bank account Edit The government can seize money directly from a bank account. One way this happens is when there are large numbers of cash deposits that government investigators suspect are structured as a way to avoid deposits exceeding $10,000, since deposits greater than that amount must be reported to the federal government. But it can happen that legitimate businesses have regular large deposits of cash. In one instance, the Internal Revenue Service waited for large deposits to be placed into an owner's bank account, and then forced the bank by legal means to surrender it to the agency by means of a secret warrant;[31] authorities took $135,000 from Michigan restaurant owners, named the Cheung family, who made cash deposits from their Chinese restaurant.[30] In another instance, a businessman in New Jersey made repeated cash deposits to save for purchasing a house; each payment was below the $10,000 threshold for reporting to the government, but there were 21 deposits over a period of four months, which caused government to suspect that criminal activity was involved; as a result, the IRS seized $157,000 and the businessman was forced to hire an attorney to get his funds returned.[16] Officials seized $35,000 from the bank account of a grocery store "without any warning or explanation" in 2013.[30] 1 Like |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:23am On Nov 14, 2022 |
I don't argue with empty-headed folks. I cure their ignorance with facts. 1 Like |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Zeezenho: 10:24am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ladiguy: Olodo, who is lty of bribery and corruption we were thought even in nursery school that it's both the giver and the reciver. |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by kingyakos: 10:25am On Nov 14, 2022 |
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| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by sangresan(m): 10:26am On Nov 14, 2022 |
Contested seizures Edit After police and authorities have possession of cash or other seized property, there are two ways in which the seized assets become permanently theirs: first, if a prosecutor can prove that seized assets were connected to criminal activity in a courtroom, or second, if nobody tries to claim the seized assets.[42] What happens in many instances is that the assets revert to police ownership by default. If a victim challenges the seizure, prosecutors sometimes offer to return half of the seized funds as part of a deal in exchange for not suing.[18] Sometimes police, challenged by lawyers or by victims, volunteer to return all of the money provided that the victim promises not to sue police or prosecutors; according to The Washington Post, many victims sign simply to get some or all of their money back.[35] Victims often have "long legal struggles to get their money back".[35] One estimate was that only one percent of federally taken property is ever returned to their former owners.[43] |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by Cantonese: 10:28am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ladiguy: Ok, let’s take it from your view that the cases are similar, in that they are crime related. Cubana was either invited or arrested by the Police, on the basis of what we were informed. The onus of proof rested on his, based on the facts presented to him by NDLEA. The matter has not escalated beyond that, at least as we know for now. We have been told that Tinubu had a friend who lived with him in the USA. The guy was a drug peddler. The guys funds found their way into Tinubu’s account and was seized, according to Tinubu’s side of the story. He has so far not denied the name Bola Tinubu. He went his way, not knowing that destiny would bring him to contest for the highest office of the nation. Tinubu himself is an advocate of accountability with leadership. He did not prove that the funds did not belong to him or its source. Politics aside, is it not proper that his name is cleared? Is it not proper for Nigerians to question the source of wealth of all their leaders? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Can Tinubu’s $460,000 ‘settlement’ In Drug Trafficking Case Disqualify Him? by obi58: 10:28am On Nov 14, 2022 |
ladiguy: Do you understand how large $460k is currently compared to its value in 1993 to be forfeited? Imagine 50 billion entered your account which was proceeds of a kidnapping bust. How will you absolve yourself? What are the chances that you will be living with someone and not know what kind of business he is into? Moreso if he decides to credit your account with such a large sum? Why will someone send his money to another person to keep for him if the funds are legitimate? And not even a small sum, $460k  ?1 Like 1 Share |
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