frenchwine:

I agree with you, there are off nights for teams and it's not unexpected in a 72/73 game season with b2b2b road games. But stethching back to about 6games , grizzles have always dominated the warriors. It's just one of those odd steaks , like the Wade over LeBron streak.

Stretching back to 6 games the Grizzlies have always dominated the Warriors.

SmooshCHN:



Bro, that's blasphemy.. I can take my time to find you results of previous match ups to tell how well Memphis have been taking Ls from Warriors even Tony Allen stays put on Defense

They had a good game today, never in the last 6 games..

lolawilliams:

What! 3peat?? Not when they lost by 20+ in their 4 losses. Honestly, i dont see a superstar team in them. I dont see KD getting the MVP either, they were better at this point last season without him.

OohMpa:



Wheter they lost by 40 in those 4 losses, it doesn't take away the fact that Warriors is the best team currently.

In as much as Ooh Mpa doesn't cherish KD, he's most likely getting that MVP if it remains like this. Based on current record and form, the run will be like:

KD
Leonard
Lebron
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Gasol
Lillard
Griffin

Once you're elite, you just hate who you hate. You suppose happy say dem don calm down for Lebron. Right now, it is all about CURRY HATRED FACTORY. The only players to escape ridicule are people on the Spurs team cos obviously they are not cocky or set profound records.

Just stop arguing about Lebron. We all know he's top 5 all time. One more ring and he might surpass Kobe.


Sircumalot, Harden was obviously better that season but we are in 2016/2017. Even last season showed how superior Westbrook was/is

OohMpa:



Wheter they lost by 40 in those 4 losses, it doesn't take away the fact that Warriors is the best team currently.

In as much as Ooh Mpa doesn't cherish KD, he's most likely getting that MVP if it remains like this. Based on current record and form, the run will be like:

KD
Leonard
Lebron
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Gasol
Lillard
Griffin

Once you're elite, you just hate who you hate. You suppose happy say dem don calm down for Lebron. Right now, it is all about CURRY HATRED FACTORY. The only players to escape ridicule are people on the Spurs team cos obviously they are not cocky or set profound records.

Just stop arguing about Lebron. We all know he's top 5 all time. One more ring and he might surpass Kobe.


Sircumalot, Harden was obviously better that season but we are in 2016/2017. Even last season showed how superior Westbrook was/is

OohMpa:



Wheter they lost by 40 in those 4 losses, it doesn't take away the fact that Warriors is the best team currently.

In as much as Ooh Mpa doesn't cherish KD, he's most likely getting that MVP if it remains like this. Based on current record and form, the run will be like:

KD
Leonard
Lebron
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Gasol
Lillard
Griffin

Once you're elite, you just hate who you hate. You suppose happy say dem don calm down for Lebron. Right now, it is all about CURRY HATRED FACTORY. The only players to escape ridicule are people on the Spurs team cos obviously they are not cocky or set profound records.

Just stop arguing about Lebron. We all know he's top 5 all time. One more ring and he might surpass Kobe.


Sircumalot, Harden was obviously better that season but we are in 2016/2017. Even last season showed how superior Westbrook was/is

lolawilliams:



Well. The Warriors were more of a superstar team last season than they are now.

Why will you put KD first in your MVP Race. hell no, what is CP3 and griffin doing there. Instead of Griffin, Klove would have been better. My list goes like this

Westbrook

LeBron

Kawhi

Harden

KD

A.Davis

Kemba

Curry

M.Gasol

Giannis

So Ooh Mpa should remove Griffin and put Kemba/Giannis?

Sweery, MVP is given to players that usually finish top 3 in their conferences. You can't play everything for your team,the team struggles to playoffs or don't and you expect to be given the nod.

Your list is more of the literal meaning of MVP than impact.

And if it's about impact, it doesn't get better than Durant, Leonard, Lebron and CP3. The stats do speak for themselves

Donlittle:
If Westbrook makes the playoffs as a top 5 seed, he gets the mvp.

madeit2thetop:
Him putting up triple double is the only way he can win the Mvp coz his FG% is very ridiculous and not an mvp calibre

Donlittle:
westbrook is fighting team mates for rebounds, taking 40 shoots, and holding on to the ball till 22 seconds on the shot clock to get an assist, you think he won't average a triple double till the season ends?

Donlittle:
westbrook is fighting team mates for rebounds, taking 40 shoots, and holding on to the ball till 22 seconds on the shot clock to get an assist, you think he won't average a triple double till the season ends?

lolawilliams:


What! 3peat?? Not when they lost by 20+ in their 4 losses. Honestly, i dont see a superstar team in them. I dont see KD getting the MVP either, they were better at this point last season without him.

Without Conley, Parsons and Carter with full of D-League players and Rookies. Still won the game with a high note and the Warriors called the best team this season. Good

OohMpa:



Wheter they lost by 40 in those 4 losses, it doesn't take away the fact that Warriors is the best team currently.

In as much as Ooh Mpa doesn't cherish KD, he's most likely getting that MVP if it remains like this. Based on current record and form, the run will be like:

KD
Leonard
Lebron
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Gasol
Lillard
Griffin

Once you're elite, you just hate who you hate. You suppose happy say dem don calm down for Lebron. Right now, it is all about CURRY HATRED FACTORY. The only players to escape ridicule are people on the Spurs team cos obviously they are not cocky or set profound records.

Just stop arguing about Lebron. We all know he's top 5 all time. One more ring and he might surpass Kobe.


Sircumalot, Harden was obviously better that season but we are in 2016/2017. Even last season showed how superior Westbrook was/is

frenchwine:

No hating , LeBron James is up there with MJ, Pippen, Wilt Chamberlain and Abduljabbar, he is a better all round player than each and everyone of them, especially considering the difference in intensity and tactical awareness between then and now. He however needs at least two more rings to get up there as the greatest of all time.
However I think it would be very biased to say GSW aren't a great team, dah, they're one of the most complete team of the past decade. Or what do you call a team that's already coughing up Four all-stars? The regular season is just a quarter down, the ring is the only thing they're playing for and playoffs intensity would show up with time

nairamaniac:
I'm a huge fan of LeBron. He may be up there with the rest and even way above pippen. But please leave Jordan out of it. Even if Lebron wins two more championships, he wdnt still come close to Jordan. U really have to factor in that Lebron has not been taking regular-season games seriously, while Jordan took all 82games of regular season as seriously as he took the playoffs and never suffered any sort of fatigue during those playoffs or finals. BESIDES, if not those couple of retirements by Jordan, I believe he should be all time league leader In points.

frenchwine:

Let's not fail to factor in the intensity of the league back then and the quality of opposition.
Things
are really diffrent now.

OohMpa:
Donlittle, nairamaniac, Sircumalot

MVP awards don't go to 5th and 6th seeds, have never gone to 4th seed and rarely go to 3rd seed. There have been only few cases player won MVP outside the top 2 seeds:

Bob Petit in 55/56
Mcadoo in 74/75
Jabbar in 75/76
Moses Malone in 78/79 and 81/82
MJ in 88

That's just 6 out of 61 regular seasons, the last almost 30yrs ago.

This is a normal something. You no remember KG in 2005 after averaging same stats as his 2004 MVP season but his Wolves plummeted. Wetin happen? No be Nash dem give am with KG 11th position in voting

Or the following year when Kobe knack 35.4 ppg for the season but MVP honors went to Nash again cos of their 1 seed?

Or Rose in 2011 or Malone in 99?

Or all star MVPs and finals mvps?


Best player in best team > best player in a crappy team
Impact > Value

E no go change unless Harden/WB move up in the ranking which we all know is impossible with Warriors, Spurs, Clippers and Grizzlies out there

Dalu

lolawilliams:
I'd leave Ring talk to otheer people. This guy can score, shoot, pass, steal, dunk and always in talks for MVP, But still gets all the hate. What a world


Pippen-" "Michael Jordan is probably the greatest scorer to play the game.But I may go so far as to say Lebron James may be the greatest player to ever play the game because he is so potent offensively that not only can he score at will, but he keeps everybody involved"

OohMpa:
Donlittle, nairamaniac, Sircumalot

MVP awards don't go to 5th and 6th seeds, have never gone to 4th seed and rarely go to 3rd seed. There have been only few cases player won MVP outside the top 2 seeds:

Bob Petit in 55/56
Mcadoo in 74/75
Jabbar in 75/76
Moses Malone in 78/79 and 81/82
MJ in 88

That's just 6 out of 61 regular seasons, the last almost 30yrs ago.

This is a normal something. You no remember KG in 2005 after averaging same stats as his 2004 MVP season but his Wolves plummeted. Wetin happen? No be Nash dem give am with KG 11th position in voting

Or the following year when Kobe knack 35.4 ppg for the season but MVP honors went to Nash again cos of their 1 seed?

Or Rose in 2011 or Malone in 99?

Or all star MVPs and finals mvps?


Best player in best team > best player in a crappy team
Impact > Value

E no go change unless Harden/WB move up in the ranking which we all know is impossible with Warriors, Spurs, Clippers and Grizzlies out there

Dalu

nairamaniac:
there's no s.i unit for measuring intensity. The league was also extremely intense back then. I don't think we have ever had a team as intense or defensive as the Bad-boy-pistons in the history of the league which Jordan swept after meeting them in three straight playoffs.
I also don't think Lebron has faced a player to guard him one on one as much as Jordan did in a Gary Payton, in an NBA finals. Don't even mention kawhi leonard, Payton was tougher on Jordan.
About intensity, the NBA was harder driving jnto lanes back then. There was nothing like spacing and stuffs we have here today.
Do you know that Jordan's most offensive team mate pippen had career average of 16points. At his best, he averaged around 20 points. But with that he destroyed a Los Angeles lakers dynasty that had like 4 allstars in the 1991 finals. This is like saying Lebron defeating the warriors In the 2015 finals with Tristan Thomson and shulpert. I say this cos that particular year, 1991 were both pippen and horance grant's breakout year.
Well I may be wrong with the above comparison. But I think it's somehow close.

Let me also add that if it were Jordan in place of Lebron in this particular cavs team, I would have been 100percent confident cavs(with jordan) would destroy this current warriors.
I remember sometime in 1996 or there about, the miami heat assembled a team with Tim hardaway, alonzo morning and some other good players. Their game was so fluid. Then came playoffs, The bulls won the first three games. Miami was really good. They were fast and shot really well. They had great coach in pat Riley. After those three games, everyone was expecting a sweep. But surprisingly, miami won game 4.
Then came game-5. Jordan came in with red eyes. Refused to shake alonzo morning's hands. My brothers and sisters on Nairaland, what I saw that night from Jordan and the bulls in game 5, I have never seen it till date from any player and team. Jordan and the bulls held both alonzo morning and Tim hardaway to below 10 points. And they were both the highest scoring heat players.
That match alone convinces me whole heartedly, that a Jordan in place of Lebron would likely hold warriors below their normal scoring averages. Don't even say that bulls had a Dennis rodman and this Cavs do not. Jordan was both the defensive leader of the bulls and offensive leader. He led the bulls at both ends of the floor.

OohMpa:



So Ooh Mpa should remove Griffin and put Kemba/Giannis?

Sweery, MVP is given to players that usually finish top 3 in their conferences. You can't play everything for your team,the team struggles to playoffs or don't and you expect to be given the nod.

Your list is more of the literal meaning of MVP than impact.

And if it's about impact, it doesn't get better than Durant, Leonard, Lebron and CP3. The stats do speak for themselves

A40:

M.J's greatness is not what one can begin to explain. I am imagining if he had LeBron's body how badly he woulda destroyed competition

A40:

M.J's greatness is not what one can begin to explain. I am imagining if he had LeBron's body how badly he woulda destroyed competition

OohMpa:



Wheter they lost by 40 in those 4 losses, it doesn't take away the fact that Warriors is the best team currently.

In as much as Ooh Mpa doesn't cherish KD, he's most likely getting that MVP if it remains like this. Based on current record and form, the run will be like:

KD
Leonard
Lebron
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Harden
Gasol
Lillard
Griffin

Once you're elite, you just hate who you hate. You suppose happy say dem don calm down for Lebron. Right now, it is all about CURRY HATRED FACTORY. The only players to escape ridicule are people on the Spurs team cos obviously they are not cocky or set profound records.

Just stop arguing about Lebron. We all know he's top 5 all time. One more ring and he might surpass Kobe.


Sircumalot, Harden was obviously better that season but we are in 2016/2017. Even last season showed how superior Westbrook was/is

A40:

M.J's greatness is not what one can begin to explain. I am imagining if he had LeBron's body how badly he woulda destroyed competition