nairamaniac:

It's blasphemy to place kobe ahead of Kareem, Shaq and magic. Kareem and Shaq had the most bankable-2points the league had ever seen. Magic is clearly the best point guard ever and he contributed in scoring unlike other great point-guards like John Stockton and Chris Paul.
If Jordan didn't come out of retirement to win 3more titles, the world would have been divided between Jordan and magic johnson.
Please don't say this in L. A.
Magic was something else.
Kobe isn't best even close to being best laker.

Now picture this, like u sed, kobe had poor teammates. During his peak years after Shaq left. But lebron equally had poor team mates in Cleveland when he led them to the finals in 2007. That was just his forth year in the league.
Kobe had been in the league for 9years. And could lead the lakers to playoffs in 2005.
I'm talking bout playoffs and not NBA finals.
Do u think there's any team in the league in the past 15 years that a Shaq or lebron or a Jordan or Kareem wouldn't have led to playoffs?
"Impossible" my brother.

After 2005, we all thot it was just a bad year for kobe. But the next two seasons, he couldn't lead lakers past the phoenix suns in first-rounds. And this was a 10 to 11year old veteran.
After staying 11years in a league, no great player had an excuse not to lead his team beyond the 1st round in a playoff series. Not qualifying for it is unheard of.
Except you are a Tracy macgrady. And that's why he's rated so low in the ranks of greatest players.
If iverson could lead that sixers with Eric snow and Oldman dikembe to best record (top seed) in 2001. I see no reason why kobe can't do half of that.
Iverson went even further to lead them to the nba finals.
I can go on and on and on. Brother, with those weak-ass team mates, kobe should have done much more. Those years should count against him, rather than for-him.

Donlittle:
Dudes be forgetting lebron plays in the ECF, he makes the finals, he makes the finals, you are damn right he should. How many superstar they the ECF? I go wait.

A40:

In the West you had the Spurs, Rockets, Mavericks, Jazz, later on the Grizzlies, OKC

So playing in a weaker conference with two all stars is now a big deal

nairamaniac:

ESPN's list is the closest to perfection iv ever seen. Whoever would touch M. J hasn't been born or yet to enter the league.
But my brother Lebron lossing 4 finals has nothing to do with it. In the first place, lebron had no business getting to most of this final.
His first finals at the age of 22 with that extremely weak cavs should be applauded.
His last finals in miami with dead dwane wade and Chris bosh was a miracle to have gotten that far. Pound for pound, Indiana was much better than miami.

frenchwine:
Tonight seems like its gonna be a dull one on-court. Not soo interesting match ups.
Anyone has an interesting pick?

nairamaniac:

From all 4? U are wicked. He lost his two best players prior to 2015finals. Both Dwane wade and bosh were finished 2014. They both couldn't even make the playoffs without lebron the following year.
No vex, iv accepted my mistake for 2011. Yes, he flopped. I just didn't put the entire blame on him.
I think I remember those last 3games they lost to dallas, miami's scoring was going thru Dwane Wade more than it was thru Lebron.

But please leave 14 and 15 finals out of this.

And mind you, I'm not making excuses for lebron in order to place him at par with Jordan. They r not mates.

Donlittle:
The guy even conveniently said the pacers were better than Miami. Like what?

Donlittle:
The guy even conveniently said the pacers were better than Miami. Like what?

A40:


Conference that 40-42 were entering playoffs. Is that one Conference

SmooshCHN:
It's game day y'all..

NBA players baby picture

SmooshCHN:
It's game day y'all..

NBA players baby picture

birdman:

But if MJ had LBJ's body, I would say MJ never wins 6 rings. Because the road would be much easier. He would never have been cut from his varsity team, and the pistons would not have been able to bully him early in his career..

SIRcumalot:
am done with it too that is why am not actively participating in this renewed one.
I don't know what to say in favour of LBJ that I haven't already said or anything in Kobe favours that I never read for this board or heard in real life.
my original point was that if ESPN is filled with LBJ fan boys what about SI?
you should check foxsports ranking too.
but I no expect you or any other Kobe fan to change anymore than I would.

Roland17:


YOU ARE SOOOOO DISRESPECTFUL !!!!!!

lolawilliams:

What are you trying to tell? You mean Curry lacked growth hormones and never went through puberty?
Westbrook Pic is the funniest. i swear loool

chic2pimp:


Are we still pedalling this lie? MJ was not cut from his varsity team. It was simply rare for sophmores to make varsity teams back then.

SmooshCHN:
If Draymond don't win DPOY..

sapiosexual1:

I agree with you, buh LolaWilliams is surely coming for you

SmooshCHN:
You agree with me means I'm telling the truth.. I watch most of the games and she can't tell me LeBron has performed better on defense than Draymond so far this season. So DPOY for now is Draymond.

sapiosexual1:

Going by this season's performance, it's Green but Ofcus you can't judge a season over the first 25 games . He has to keep those stats up over 83

sapiosexual1:
Where are the Westbrook fanboys?

SmooshCHN:
Yes over 82 games.. That's why I specified for now so Lola will not start with me this week

SmooshCHN:
The guy was mad as hell

SmooshCHN:
You agree with me means I'm telling the truth.. I watch most of the games and she can't tell me LeBron has performed better on defense than Draymond so far this season. So DPOY for now is Draymond.