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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by pharmow: 10:06am On Jan 22, 2012
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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by LogicMind: 11:01am On Jan 22, 2012
Yoruba foolishness, cowardice, lazyness, hypocrysy and lack of self respect pass.

after fighting with hausa/fulani to keep us in nigeria, what do they have to show for it? NOTHING.

their awolowo never became anything significant
their abiola was jailed for winning an election
their shonekan was slapped out of office
their crying general, oladipo diya was humiliated in front of the whole world
their only obasanjo was a career soldier who has been dancing like the puppet he is to the tune of his hausa/fulani masters who he has served well since the war.

the yorubas should just hide their faces in shame.
you have nothing to be proud of.
NOTHING!

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by kuluTemper: 11:03am On Jan 22, 2012
From the speech made by late Akintola in the youtube audio, it is clear that his speech was a reaction to the perceived dominance of the igbo in the Nigerian polity,and it was clearly interpreted as greed. You should love your Neighbour as yourself was one thing the igbos forgot and the result of their take all have attitude blew u to their disadvantage.

The only thing holding Nigeria together today is CORRUPTION remove corruption and it will be clear to all that the three major geopolitical regions have nothing in common.

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 11:06am On Jan 22, 2012
Can someone that understands Yoruba call this Jason123, or whatever he calls himself to order? @Jason123, What is "conc" about the Yoruba SLA spoke? Either you understand or you don't; and you clearly don't! Stop feeding the Igbos on this thread with your rubbish analysis based on a wrong translation you got from your "Yoruba" friend!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 11:12am On Jan 22, 2012
Jason123:

Okay, Akintola's speech was done in "conc" Yoruba but I got one of my friend to interpret it.

First of all, both (Akintola, Awo and Bello) do not like the Igbos. That is established. Why did Nigeria not let them go?? If you hate someone, no matter what the person had done in the past, you let them go. Why did Gowon bring them back?? Okay, after saving the Calabar and co from Igbo domination, why not late them have their own country??



Where the hell did you or your friend get the nonsense above? What is "established" and why do you always find it imperative to speak on behalf of the Yorubas when you claim not to be one? Its not a must to post on every topic, you know?

P.S: I should've even stopped reading when you said "Both" but then quoted 3 people.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Rhino5dm: 11:25am On Jan 22, 2012
Jason123=Alj Harem. Dont bother responding to him.

He is thsame snake biting from side under different moniker.

kingoflag:

Can someone that understands Yoruba call this Jason123, or whatever he calls himself to order? @Jason123, What is "conc" about the Yoruba SLA spoke? Either you understand or you don't; and you clearly don't! Stop feeding the Igbos on this thread with your rubbish analysis based on a wrong translation you got from your "Yoruba" friend!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Detongue: 11:27am On Jan 22, 2012
Why not kill dis kind of discussion. Disintergration is not d problem we re hving now, let's try as one nig to build our country were hate will take d back bench. Whatever happuned in d past b/w of elders in d past should b allowed to die, if not we will continue like ppl without hope, so pls let's help nig grow

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by sheyguy: 11:39am On Jan 22, 2012
Some pple still think they can change history by trying hard on NL, if the west betrayed the east then did they still betray them today with the Gej situation. Some pple just av this thing for self destructing and blaming others.

The moment the easterners started their grab-it-all mission in '66 and failed, the best option was for The remnant of Nigeria to keep their friendly enemy close where they could see them cos it's not ur enemy(britain) who hurt u, they r always ur own pple.
In summary if biafra was allowed, then they would av come back for another '66 type massacre of the remaining Niger-area.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by pharmow: 12:33pm On Jan 22, 2012
Logic Mind:

Yoruba foolishness, cowardice, lazyness, hypocrysy and lack of self respect pass.

after fighting with hausa/fulani to keep us in nigeria, what do they have to show for it? NOTHING.

their awolowo never became anything significant
their abiola was jailed for winning an election
their shonekan was slapped out of office
their crying general, oladipo diya was humiliated in front of the whole world
their only obasanjo was a career soldier who has been dancing like the puppet he is to the tune of his hausa/fulani masters who he has served well since the war.

the yorubas should just hide their faces in shame.

you have nothing to be proud of.
NOTHING!

Na wa o

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by maasoap(m): 1:00pm On Jan 22, 2012
They didn't and still do not want you to go because they probably believe that you must clean your mess. Your mess? You murdered the fathers of the nation (Nigeria) as a result of your greed. We don't like you because of that, and the irony is that we won't let you go because of that. The who made poo can forget but the person who used his hands to park it won't forget.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by merengue: 2:18pm On Jan 22, 2012
@All NL tribal champions a.k.a Awon ode alai nironu, nde anuofia, overgrown ozuos: For all you rustic, unintelligent, tribalistic buffoons who are carrying on your heads, the Civil War issues (a war which none of you experienced), please relocate to your home state and make sure you do not associate with anybody that comes from another tribe, lets see how you will survive. Politicians will always use you to further their own agendas, you morons jump to their defence, some die in the process, in the end they settle among themselves. All these people you keep calling: Ojukwu, Ahmadu Bello, Azikiwe, Akintola, Awolowo, Gowon e.t.c. All died or are living as very wealthy people, their children are already guaranteed secure financial futures. For once in your miserable lives, use your brains to think.

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by IDERAWOLE(m): 2:35pm On Jan 22, 2012
Most of the contributors  to this thread are obviously unaware of the INTERNATIONAL DIMENSION in the dynamics of INTEREST in nations across the world.

For instance; what is the interest of the U.S of AMERICA in the middle east politics or any other part of the world now, where they have thousands of FORCES stationed in a battle-ready state.

INTERNALLY, most of the first republic leaders that we flaunt around as genius; politically, aren't as fantastic as we would want them to be held in awe.

While the INTEREST of foreign powers in the political calculus of Nigeria cannot be ignored as exemplified by the BRITISH, the truth of the matter is that we've  never had LARGE HEART men as leaders in the corridors of power no matter where they are from.

That those early men in the history of Nigeria failed is NOT a surprise to those that are discerning of what makes for EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP; the only disaster looming at us now is that the present generation of NIGERIANS are not better when it comes to how to lead WELL, we are even WORSE.

Let me itemize what can lead to NIGERIA coming out of this logjam; it is left for others to contribute their own thinking and then the present generation of leaders being able to sit down and iron things out.

1. The OLD generation of leaders are NOT equipped to sort things out; they are either too myopic in their thinking or too SELFISH to think straight.

2. The present generation of leaders must eschew CORRUPTION or it will bury the remaining fragment of what is left of NIGERIA.

3. We must all wake up to the reality that finding solution to the problem is a marathon race, NOT 100meters dash.

4. The resolution of Nigerians as shown by the fuel subsidy removal and the attendant protest must be sustained by a commitment to eschew CORRUPTION individually.

5. Adopt a mindset that you will be your brothers keeper irrespective of the madness going on in different part of the nation now, so that God can be IMPRESSED to help us out of this SELF-IMPOSED destruction in the nation.

6. No Nigerian should ever deny not to be part of the problem; rather repent and ask for God's MERCY on the land. It is quite easy to point to politicians in power; the truth of the matter is that most if not ALL NIGERIANS are thieves and criminals. You only need to go offices; private or public and you will see CORRUPTION in broad day light.

7. The bedrock of our problem in NIGERIA is just WRONG MIND-SET, which both our EDUCATIONAL and RELIGIOUS sector has not helped to reduce; it is CORRUPTION galore everywhere.

8. Until we are set free from our SLAVERY MENTALITY across the land; there is no deliverance in sight. (For a better understanding of this SLAVERY MENTALITY problem; I recommend SAM ADEYEMI'S book called: THE SECOND REVOLUTION.)

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Johnpaul2k2(m): 2:38pm On Jan 22, 2012
Logic Mind:

Yoruba foolishness, cowardice, lazyness, hypocrysy and lack of self respect pass.

after fighting with hausa/fulani to keep us in nigeria, what do they have to show for it? NOTHING.

their awolowo never became anything significant
their abiola was jailed for winning an election
their shonekan was slapped out of office
their crying general, oladipo diya was humiliated in front of the whole world
their only obasanjo was a career soldier who has been dancing like the puppet he is to the tune of his hausa/fulani masters who he has served well since the war.

the yorubas should just hide their faces in shame.
you have nothing to be proud of.
NOTHING!
grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Wislet(f): 2:54pm On Jan 22, 2012
THE CIVIL WAR HAS COME AND GONE. FOR GOODNESS SAKES LET'S PUT DOWN OUR SWORDS. DISUNITY AMONGST THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH IS WHAT MISCHIEF MAKERS IN THE NORTH WILL BE WAITING TO CAPITALIZE ON. THE EARLIER THE THREE GROUPS COME TO THEIR SENSES AND REALIZE THAT GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE WRONGS OUR FATHERS DID, AND APPORTIONING BLAMES WILL NOT HELP US.

WE NEED TO LOOK BACK ON WHAT HAPPENED, IDENTIFY THE MISDEEDS, FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER SINCERELY (If not for anything, for saying we are followers of a God who forgives) , REALIZE THAT WE MUSN'T BACKSTAB OR SPEAK FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE MOUTH BUT INSTEAD STAND BEHIND ONE ANOTHER, THE BETTER FOR US.

WE NEED ONE ANOTHER NO MATTER ALL THE MOUTH WE MAKE. WE NEED ONE ANOTHER. Evidence abounds as to how peaceful we are mixed together.
THREE GROUPS THAT VALUE HUMAN LIFE, AND BELIEVE IN LIVE-AND-LET-LIVE SHOULD SHOWCASE THE INTELLIGENCE THEY CLAIM TO HAVE.

AND NOT COME HERE HAGGLING LIKE MARKET WOMEN OR THROWING TANTRUMS.

HAVING LEARNT A LOT FROM HISTORY, IT BEHOVES US NEVER TO ALLOW ETHNICITY, JEALOUSY OR HATRED COME IN THE PLACE OF LOVE AND SENSIBILITY!

How can you claim to love God, and with the same mouth declare to Him that you hate somebody He created in His form. somebody like yourself.

The history we read today was once the present as we are in now. HOW WE ACT TODAY BECOMES OUR CHILDREN'S HISTORY. Will they blame, accuse or be disappointed in us? We will determine that today.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by akigbemaru: 2:58pm On Jan 22, 2012
Fear of greed ibo is the begining of a wisdom. That's why I like Akintola!!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by biggybig(f): 3:36pm On Jan 22, 2012
Interesting thread, we cannot fully appreciate where we are going, the future, until we understand where we come from, the past. This is why this thread is important. I will go back to what tafawa balewa and awolowo said in 1948 and 1947 respectively. Tafawa speaking said,' since 1914 the british goverment has been trying to make Nigeria into one country, but the nigerian people themselves are historically different in their backgrounds, in their religious beliefs and customs and do not show themselves any signs of willingness to unite, Nigerian unity is only a british invention!'. Now papa Awo, ' Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression. There are no nigerians in the same sense as there are english, welsh, or french. The word Nigerian is merely a dsitinctive appelation to distinguish those who live within the boundaries of Nigeria and those who do not?'. Is there any sign today that this amalgamation of many nations would work? Few weeks back there were protest over the palpable corruption in Gej's govermnet, fuels subsidy and all other matters arising. some part of the nation protested, the other part felt this is there SON, lets support him. The yoruba have been crticised for the protest, forgetting that during obasanjo's time the yorubas were also his greatest critic. Where is the unity in all this? Solution?separate!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by biggybig(f): 3:46pm On Jan 22, 2012
Solution? Separate? I never thought i would say that years back, but as i studied the history of Africa i discovered basically africa is well over a 1000 different nations, kingdoms merged into less than over 50 states because of the selfish interest of a few colonial masters. Thats is why today nothern and souther sudan are separated, its the reason for thw war in somalia, rwanda etc. People of differing culture, language, interest, values, characters, forced to live together! How long can two walk together when they don't agree?
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 5:11pm On Jan 22, 2012
bashr8:

Igbos have always been open and truthful about nigerin situation, others either live in denial or are just waking up, this confirms that tribalism didn't start today,if these people really had a problem with igbos dominating everything why didn't they just turn a blind eye during biafras seccession we were actually doing them a favour and ending their misery and nightmares.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by obowunmi(m): 6:12pm On Jan 22, 2012
Omo yoruba ni mi cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Kilode1: 6:27pm On Jan 22, 2012
biggybig:

Interesting thread, we cannot fully appreciate where we are going, the future, until we understand where we come from, the past.

This is why this thread is important. I will go back to what tafawa balewa and awolowo said in 1948 and 1947 respectively.

Tafawa speaking said,' since 1914 the british goverment has been trying to make Nigeria into one country, but the nigerian people themselves are historically different in their backgrounds, in their religious beliefs and customs and do not show themselves any signs of willingness to unite, Nigerian unity is only a british invention!'.

Now papa Awo, ' Nigeria is not a nation. It is a mere geographical expression. There are no nigerians in the same sense as there are english, welsh, or french. The word Nigerian is merely a dsitinctive appelation to distinguish those who live within the boundaries of Nigeria and those who do not?'.


Is there any sign today that this amalgamation of many nations would work?

Few weeks back there were protest over the palpable corruption in Gej's govermnet, fuels subsidy and all other matters arising. some part of the nation protested, the other part felt this is there SON, lets support him.

The yoruba have been crticised for the protest, forgetting that during obasanjo's time the yorubas were also his greatest critic. Where is the unity in all this? Solution?separate!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by bashr8: 6:34pm On Jan 22, 2012
Igbos have always been open and truthful about nigerin situation, others either live in denial or are just waking up, this confirms that tribalism didn't start today,if these people really had a problem with igbos dominating everything why didn't they just turn a blind eye during biafras seccession we were actually doing them a favour and ending their misery and nightmares.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jan 22, 2012
Is there any politician who can speak Yoruba like that anymore? I don't agree with everything he said, partly because I don't understand all the prevailing issues at that time, but I surely enjoyed the pure, undiluted Yoruba he spoke. I don't think there are many people today who can explain several issues in Yoruba the way he did without mixing it with English language.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by BlackPikiN(m): 6:44pm On Jan 22, 2012
See as him dey complain about Igblos dey everywhere.

What's the problem?
Why do people get scared? Igbos are like live and lets live.


It is very bad to be Igbo in Nigeria. very very bad!
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by dayokanu(m): 6:45pm On Jan 22, 2012
Aigbofa:

Is there any politician who can speak Yoruba like that anymore? I don't agree with everything he said, partly because I don't understand all the prevailing issues at that time, but I surely enjoyed the pure, undiluted Yoruba he spoke. I don't think there are many people today who can explain several issues in Yoruba the way he did without mixing it with English language.

And to think that he is also a Uk trained lawyer with such mastery of Yoruba Language



Akintola with Isreali first prime Minister Ben Gurion
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 6:47pm On Jan 22, 2012
bashr8:

Igbos have always been open and truthful about nigerin situation, others either live in denial or are just waking up, this confirms that tribalism didn't start today,if these people really had a problem with igbos dominating everything why didn't they just turn a blind eye during biafras seccession we were actually doing them a favour and ending their misery and nightmares.

If you listen to what Akintola said and what Ahmadu Bello said in one of the video clips posted on Nairaland, there is an uncanny similarity between how they viewed the Igbo. It is unfortunate that perception is still with us today, and Igbos are surely not helping matters.

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by bashr8: 6:53pm On Jan 22, 2012
Aigbofa:

If you listen to what Akintola said and what Ahmadu Bello said in one of the video clips posted on Nairaland, there is an uncanny similarity between how they viewed the Igbo. It is unfortunate that perception is still with us today, and Igbos are surely not helping matters.

How they view igbos don't matter to me , igbos are competitive if other group don't like it simple lets divide that's why i said diviing Nigeria will be of benefit to other groups especially Yoruba at least their nightmares about igbos will end, why is that so hard to comprehend? As long as we remain one igbos will continue to be what God made them, competitive and domeneering, the truth is that there's enough space for everyone in naija so I don't even know why anybody should complain.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by aljharem(m): 6:54pm On Jan 22, 2012
BlackPikiN:

See as him dey complain about Igblos dey everywhere.

What's the problem?
Why do people get scared? Igbos are like live and lets live.


It is very bad to be Igbo in Nigeria. very very bad!

I guess you did not watch the video or you do not understand yoruba language.

What Akintola was talking about was tribalism exhibited by some Igbo personals in the western region back then. He gave an example of University of Ibadan that had 112 staffs and ever since Nnamdi and co made the VC Igbo, he employed 109 Igbo staffs from the east and gave 3 to yorubas even though it was in Ibadan.

to him that was not fair. If you watch further, you would understand that back then, Igbos were running things and the yorubas were at the background, least educated and marginalised.

What he further explained was that NCNC (Azikwe, Opara and co) was shouting One Nigeria because they were enjoying Nigeria and the way the west was marginaized.  etc

All he said, he was absolutely right and I totally agree with him. Also it was during that time the powerful slogan of North for Northerner came out because each time an Igbo man is employed to a top position back then, he employes only Igbos.

THat is why I was just looking with amazement at the RUBBISH JASON123 has been writing.

Although he explained further but that is all I can say for now

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Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by aljharem(m): 6:55pm On Jan 22, 2012
bashr8:

How they view igbos don't matter to me , igbos are competitive if other group don't like it simple lets divide that's why i said diviing Nigeria will be of benefit to other groups especially Yoruba at least their nightmares about igbos will end, why is that so hard to comprehend? As long as we remain one igbos will continue to be what God made them, competitive and domeneering, the truth is that there's enough space for everyone in naija so I don't even know why anybody should complain.

Back then it was not competition but tribalism exhibited by the Igbo executives in other regions. Get your facts right
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jan 22, 2012
alj harem:

Back then it was not competition but tribalism exhibited by the Igbo executives in other regions. Get your facts right

I think it was more about nepotism really.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by BlackPikiN(m): 6:59pm On Jan 22, 2012
alj harem:

I guess you did not watch the video or you do not understand yoruba language.

What Akintola was talking about was tribalism exhibited by some Igbo personals in the western region back then. He gave an example of University of Ibadan that had 112 staffs and ever since Nnamdi and co made the VC Igbo, he employed 109 Igbo staffs from the east and gave 3 to yorubas even though it was in Ibadan.

to him that was not fair. If you watch further, you would understand that back then, Igbos were running things and the yorubas were at the background, least educated and marginalised.

What he further explained was that NCNC (Azikwe, Opara and co) was shouting One Nigeria because they were enjoying Nigeria and the way the west was marginaized.  etc

All he said, he was absolutely right and I totally agree with him. Also it was during that time the powerful slogan of North for Northerner came out because each time an Igbo man is employed to a top position back then, he employes only Igbos.

THat is why I was just looking with amazement at the RUBBISH JASON123 has been writing.

Although he explained further but that is all I can say for now


Ohh please shut it abeg.
You dey tell me abi na another person you dey tell.
I think you need a check up.
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by aljharem(m): 7:00pm On Jan 22, 2012
Aigbofa:

I think it was more about nepotism really.

Maybe so maybe not but that was the past where there was federalism. It also explains a lot of the sort of politics played back then. Great video indeed.

Although I have to admit that his yoruba was hard to understand. LOL
Re: Idi Wahala Laarin Yoruba Ati Ibo: Why Yorubas And Igbos Wont Be Politic. Friends by aljharem(m): 7:05pm On Jan 22, 2012
BlackPikiN:


Ohh please shut it abeg.
You dey tell me abi na another person you dey tell.
I think you need a check up.

I am explaining things to you and you are here insulting me. To me if you understand the video you would understand what Nnamdi, Okpara and co did back then WAS WRONG.

Can you imagine an Yoruba man coming to Nsuuka, Imo, SU etc univerities and employing 97 % Yoruba people and leaving the indigens with 3 %, Also that 3 % would be shared between the indigenes, and other non-indigenes just because he was the president ?

It is wrong and you should admit it if you are truthful to yourself.

Well of course that was back then where each region viewed the other as another country. Now I don't think people really care.

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