crossman9:

Well Christmas has always been a pagan festival it was the Catholic Church that Christianization it;

Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus!! Were the pagans celebrating Jesus or celebrating their own god? You are totally wrong!!!

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The Real Story of Christmas

I.     When was Jesus born?

A.     Popular myth puts his birth on December 25th in the year 1 C.E.

B.     The New Testament gives no date or year for Jesus’ birth.  The earliest gospel – St. Mark’s, written about 65 CE – begins with the baptism of an adult Jesus.  This suggests that the earliest Christians lacked interest in or knowledge of Jesus’ birthdate.

C.     The year of Jesus birth was determined by Dionysius Exiguus, a Scythian monk, “abbot of a Roman monastery.  His calculation went as follows:

a.       In the Roman, pre-Christian era, years were counted from ab urbe condita (“the founding of the City” [Rome]).  Thus 1 AUC signifies the year Rome was founded, 5 AUC signifies the 5th year of Rome’s reign, etc.

b.     Dionysius received a tradition that the Roman emperor Augustus reigned 43 years, and was followed by the emperor Tiberius.

c.       Luke 3:1,23 indicates that when Jesus turned 30 years old, it was the 15th year of Tiberius reign.

d.      If Jesus was 30 years old in Tiberius’ reign, then he lived 15 years under Augustus (placing Jesus birth in Augustus’ 28th year of reign).

e.       Augustus took power in 727 AUC.  Therefore, Dionysius put Jesus birth in 754 AUC.

f.        However, Luke 1:5 places Jesus’ birth in the days of Herod, and Herod died in 750 AUC – four years before the year in which Dionysius places Jesus birth.

D.     Joseph A. Fitzmyer – Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies at the Catholic University of America, member of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, and former president of the Catholic Biblical Association – writing in the Catholic Church’s official commentary on the New Testament[1], writes about the date of Jesus’ birth, “Though the year [of Jesus birth is not reckoned with certainty, the birth did not occur in AD 1.  The Christian era, supposed to have its starting point in the year of Jesus birth, is based on a miscalculation introduced ca. 533 by Dionysius Exiguus.”

E.      The DePascha Computus, an anonymous document believed to have been written in North Africa around 243 CE, placed Jesus birth on March 28.  Clement, a bishop of Alexandria (d. ca. 215 CE), thought Jesus was born on November 18.  Based on historical records, Fitzmyer guesses that Jesus birth occurred on September 11, 3 BCE.

 

II.     How Did Christmas Come to Be Celebrated on December 25?

A.    Roman pagans first introduced the holiday of Saturnalia, a week long period of lawlessness celebrated between December 17-25.  During this period, Roman courts were closed, and Roman law dictated that no one could be punished for damaging property or injuring people during the weeklong celebration.  The festival began when Roman authorities chose “an enemy of the Roman people” to represent the “Lord of Misrule.”  Each Roman community selected a victim whom they forced to indulge in food and other physical pleasures throughout the week.  At the festival’s conclusion, December 25th, Roman authorities believed they were destroying the forces of darkness by brutally murdering this innocent man or woman.

B.    The ancient Greek writer poet and historian Lucian (in his dialogue entitled Saturnalia) describes the festival’s observance in his time.  In addition to human sacrifice, he mentions these customs: widespread intoxication; going from house to house while singing Unclad; violation and other intimate license; and consuming human-shaped biscuits (still produced in some English and most German bakeries during the Christmas season).

C.    In the 4th century CE, Christianity imported the Saturnalia festival hoping to take the pagan masses in with it.  Christian leaders succeeded in converting to Christianity large numbers of pagans by promising them that they could continue to celebrate the Saturnalia as Christians.[2]

D.    The problem was that there was nothing intrinsically Christian about Saturnalia. To remedy this, these Christian leaders named Saturnalia’s concluding day, December 25th, to be Jesus’ birthday.

E.      Christians had little success, however, refining the practices of Saturnalia.  As Stephen Nissenbaum, professor history at the University of Massachussetts, Amherst, writes, “In return for ensuring massive observance of the anniversary of the Savior’s birth by assigning it to this resonant date, the Church for its part tacitly agreed to allow the holiday to be celebrated more or less the way it had always been.”  The earliest Christmas holidays were celebrated by drinking, intimate indulgence, singing Unclad in the streets (a precursor of modern caroling), etc.

F.      The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston observed in 1687 that “the early Christians who  first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens’ Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian ones.”[3]  Because of its known pagan origin, Christmas was banned by the Puritans and its observance was illegal in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681.[4]  However, Christmas was and still is celebrated by most Christians.

G.    Some of the most depraved customs of the Saturnalia carnival were intentionally revived by the Catholic Church in 1466 when Pope Paul II, for the amusement of his Roman citizens, forced Jews to race Unclad through the streets of the city.  An eyewitness account reports, “Before they were to run, the Jews were richly fed, so as to make the race more difficult for them and at the same time more amusing for spectators.  They ran… amid Rome’s taunting shrieks and peals of laughter, while the Holy Father stood upon a richly ornamented balcony and laughed heartily.”[5]

H.     As part of the Saturnalia carnival throughout the 18th and 19th centuries CE, rabbis of the ghetto in Rome were forced to wear clownish outfits and march through the city streets to the jeers of the crowd, pelted by a variety of missiles. When the Jewish community of Rome sent a petition in1836 to Pope Gregory XVI begging him to stop the annual Saturnalia abuse of the Jewish community, he responded, “It is not opportune to make any innovation.”[6]  On December 25, 1881, Christian leaders whipped the Polish masses into Antisemitic frenzies that led to riots across the country.  In Warsaw 12 Jews were brutally murdered, huge numbers maimed, and many Jewish women were violated.  Two million rubles worth of property was destroyed.

 

III.     The Origins of Christmas Customs

A.     The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.[7]  Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

B.     The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna.  Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8]  The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the intimate license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.[9]

C.     The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January).  Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace.  The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).[10]

D.     The Origin of Santa Claus

a.       Nicholas was born in Parara, Turkey in 270 CE and later became Bishop of Myra.  He died in 345 CE on December 6th.  He was only named a saint in the 19th century.

b.      Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament.  The text they produced portrayed Jews as “the children of the devil”[11] who sentenced Jesus to death.

c.       In 1087, a group of sailors who idolized Nicholas moved his bones from Turkey to a sanctuary in Bari, Italy.  There Nicholas supplanted a female boon-giving deity called The Grandmother, or Pasqua Epiphania, who used to fill the children's stockings with her gifts.  The Grandmother was ousted from her shrine at Bari, which became the center of the Nicholas cult.  Members of this group gave each other gifts during a pageant they conducted annually on the anniversary of Nicholas’ death, December 6.

d.      The Nicholas cult spread north until it was adopted by German and Celtic pagans.  These groups worshipped a pantheon led by Woden –their chief god and the father of Thor, Balder, and Tiw.  Woden had a long, white beard and rode a horse through the heavens one evening each Autumn.  When Nicholas merged with Woden, he shed his Mediterranean appearance, grew a beard, mounted a flying horse, rescheduled his flight for December, and donned heavy winter clothing.

e.       In a bid for pagan adherents in Northern Europe, the Catholic Church adopted the Nicholas cult and taught that he did (and they should) distribute gifts on December 25th instead of December 6th.

f.        In 1809, the novelist Washington Irving (most famous his The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle) wrote a satire of Dutch culture entitled Knickerbocker History.  The satire refers several times to the white bearded, flying-horse riding Saint Nicholas using his Dutch name, Santa Claus.

g.       Dr. Clement Moore, a professor at Union Seminary, read Knickerbocker History, and in 1822 he published a poem based on the character Santa Claus: “Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.  The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in the hope that Saint Nicholas soon would be there…”  Moore innovated by portraying a Santa with eight reindeer who descended through chimneys.

h.       The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus.  From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore’s poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper’s Weekly.  Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock.  Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world.  All Santa was missing was his red outfit.

i.         In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa.  Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face.  The corporation insisted that Santa’s fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red.  And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.

 

IV.     The Christmas Challenge

·        Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly.  For millennia, pagans, Christians, and even Jews have been swept away in the season’s festivities, and very few people ever pause to consider the celebration’s intrinsic meaning, history, or origins.

·       Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue mankind from the “curse of the Torah.”  It is a 24-hour declaration that Judaism is no longer valid.

·        Christmas is a lie.  There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25th.

·        December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and murdered.

·        Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees, mistletoe, Christmas presents, and Santa Claus – are modern incarnations of the most depraved pagan rituals ever practiced on earth.



Many who are excitedly preparing for their Christmas celebrations would prefer not knowing about the holiday’s real significance.  If they do know the history, they often object that their celebration has nothing to do with the holiday’s monstrous history and meaning.  “We are just having fun.”

Imagine that between 1933-45, the Nazi regime celebrated Adolf Hitler’s birthday – April 20 – as a holiday.  Imagine that they named the day, “Hitlerday,” and observed the day with feasting, drunkenness, gift-giving, and various pagan practices.  Imagine that on that day, Jews were historically subject to perverse tortures and abuse, and that this continued for centuries.

Now, imagine that your great-great-great-grandchildren were about to celebrate Hitlerday.  April 20th arrived. They had long forgotten about Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen.  They had never heard of gas chambers or death marches.  They had purchased champagne and caviar, and were about to begin the party, when someone reminded them of the day’s real history and their ancestors’ agony.  Imagine that they initially objected, “We aren’t celebrating the Holocaust; we’re just having a little Hitlerday party.”  If you could travel forward in time and meet them; if you could say a few words to them, what would you advise them to do on Hitlerday?

On December 25, 1941, Julius Streicher, one of the most vicious of Hitler’s assistants, celebrated Christmas by penning the following editorial in his rabidly Antisemitic newspaper, Der Stuermer:

If one really wants to put an end to the continued prospering of this curse from heaven that is the Jewish blood, there is only one way to do it: to eradicate this people, this Satan’s son, root and branch.

It was an appropriate thought for the day.  This Christmas, how will we celebrate?

Errr. . . . .I believe the topic is s'posed to be about Lovefest in Christ Embassy!?

No need posting essay, you can also post the world wide web in this thread if you like

If a house was used to poultry and a man comes and demolishes the poultry and builds a fish farm. will you say that the fish farm is rooted in poultry farm?

Christmas is the day set aside to celebrate the birth of Jesus!!!

RuuDie:

Errr. . . . .I believe the topic is s'posed to be about Lovefest in Christ Embassy!?

@ ruuDie,
Well that shows you how much crossman is intoxicated with hatred and negative emotions so much so that he ends up sending abnormal messages like a psycho
, a deviated psycho

can someone pls tell me any church dt doesnt ve corrupt members? Be it reddemed,winners chapel,cele,C&S,deeper life,etc, some of u saying members of christ embassy ve sex partners re just being one sided. Am nt saying it's nt true but ur girlfriends dt u straff,is she a christ embassy church member? D promiscuous girls on ur street, re they CEC members? D ashawos in ur streets nko? D corrupt politicians in Nigeria all attend CEC I think. It's high time we say d truth where it is. And don't be myopic about things that concern spirituality, God help us all. Remove d clog in ur own eyes first b4 u think abt helping others remove d speck in their eyes,

Please Read my Words CAREFULLY and then Respond.

I'm not a member of the Church, but I want to assume that those attacking Christ Embassy (instead of facing their walk with God) are unbelievers/churchgoers - not Believers.

I'm saying so because the manner (words, photos) in which the Overseer & the Church are being demonized for their actions, one can safely assume that [b]those [/b]who are attacking them, aren't members of the body of Christ or else why be so pained & disturbed to post such on this forum.

Those attacking Christ Embassy (unbelievers or not) should know this : 'Eventually, we will all get to discover the truth, because things always prove themselves out.'

Crossman9. I can help and consult/edit for you free of charge if you are serious about publishing the book.The only condition is, be sure you are speaking nothing but absolute truth.moryina777@yahoo.co.uk

@poster

In our years in school, most of us assumed like you are doing just now but how wrong we were. If I were you, I would get closer with a clear mind to see for myself instead of these reported speeches which has existed for donkey years.

I also pray that those of us publishing destructive messages about the kingdom of GOD will live to see and weep for their errors like apostle Paul than experience the eternal regret like Judas.

@crossman, the new kid on the devil's block

For years we have face barrage of attacks from people like you and you know what, We have never looked back! Rather Believer's LoveWorld aka Christ Embassy has waxed stronger.

For years, the church has prretended as though love between two matured adult was heaven made, and many brethren fell by the wayside. But here we are today, a church is turning around this sad event in the church history by getting people in church to celebrate their love, yet some see it as something evil to do!

If the world can celebrate their 'lust' why can't we who are born in love by God celebrate love for real?

People always look for opportunities to vent their misguided offences let us talk about the socalled love feast na

Omo_Tier1:

@crossman, the new kid on the devil's block

For years we have face barrage of attacks from people like you and you know what, We have never looked back! Rather Believer's LoveWorld aka Christ Embassy has waxed stronger.

For years, the church has prretended as though love between two matured adult was heaven made, and many brethren fell by the wayside. But here we are today, a church is turning around this sad event in the church history by getting people in church to celebrate their love, yet some see it as something evil to do!

If the world can celebrate their 'lust' why can't we who are born in love by God celebrate love for real?

You know the more l read submissions and posts of the likes of this fellow with the ID name- crossman am brought again and again to the realization of the dept and magnitude of their frustration and their lack of a sense of purpose. You see the problem this individuals have which they fail to recognize is that they are people who have lost their inspiration in and for life.
For instance why aren't they talking about the wisdom in the vision (Pastor Chris live) by Christ Embassy which establishes a network of coorperate prayer all over the world at a given time through the internet and other interactive mobile platform thus encouraging a desire and passion for prayer among brethren and other Christians alike who are not members of the Minstry but who participate in the prayer chain of which there are numerous testimonies to build our faith. Here is a man driven by a passionate commitment to amplifying the voice of the gospel of Jesus Christ by seeking more and more means and avenues to facilitate that commitment and a desire to reach the unreached and touch the untouched, yet some who themselves are have repeatedly failed successfully both in their Christian lives (that is if they were Christians in the first place) and in their personal lives

newmi:

You know the more l read submissions and posts of the likes of this fellow with the ID name- crossman am brought again and again to the realization of the dept and magnitude of their frustration and their lack of a sense of purpose. You see the problem this individuals have which they fail to recognize is that they are people who have lost their inspiration in and for life.
For instance why aren't they talking about the wisdom in the vision (Pastor Chris live) by Christ Embassy which establishes a network of coorperate prayer all over the world at a given time through the internet and other interactive mobile platform thus encouraging a desire and passion for prayer among brethren and other Christians alike who are not members of the Minstry but who participate in the prayer chain of which there are numerous testimonies to build our faith. Here is a man driven by a passionate commitment to amplifying the voice of the gospel of Jesus Christ by seeking more and more means and avenues to facilitate that commitment and a desire to reach the unreached and touch the untouched, yet some who themselves are have repeatedly failed successfully both in their Christian lives (that is if they were Christians in the first place) and in their personal lives

I guess He is not fully aware that Christ Embassy has grown beyond that level of critism. Our focus and resolve remains and we seek to reach the unreach and transform the lives of millions because we Know God's power at work in US is able to transform anylife including that of crossman!

The more He speaks against Pastor Chris, Christ Embassy, the more He gets demobilized spiritually and soon, He would begin to run from pillar to post blaming others for what He has caused upon himself!

Again we know, when the devil feels the heat so badly, He uses his new kid on the block to try and create mischief using same old and unsuccessful tactics, BUT WE KNOW, THAT ALL THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR OUR GOOD, AND THERE IS NOTHING THE DEVIL CAN DO ABOUT IT NOW 'COS WE ARE BORN OF THE INCORRUPTABLE SEED - THE WORD OF GOD

Gen gen gen Them don come out!

Wat abt lazarus muoka of the lord's chosen?

Whatever crossman9, gosh!!!! , who made u a judge of what is spiritually right or wrong, u are not God so don't judge!. . . . if u are a christian, face ur chrstianity and let others practise they'r own as they know it.

Pls stop spreading unnecesaary lies

diluminati:

Gen gen gen Them don come out!

Why are u allowing the devil to use you. The likes of you and @crossman9 are on the wrong path and I pray you find your way back to JESUS before it is too late.
Jesus loves you!

FXKing2012:

Why are u allowing the devil to use you. The likes of you and @crossman9 are on the wrong path and I pray you find your way back to JESUS before it is too late.
Jesus loves you!

You are on the evil lane. The road to perdition.

When someone blows the embers of hate and curses, then that person is non different than the boko haram killers, the ethnic cleansers, mend, al qaeda etc. You all swim in the same boat. Hypocrite!

diluminati:

You are on the evil lane. The road to perdition.

When someone blows the embers of hate and curses, then that person is non different than the boko haram killers, the ethnic cleansers, mend, al qaeda etc. You all swim in the same boat. Hypocrite!

I have nothing against you dear, all I say is come back to the fold; come back to Jesus our Saviour.

To you who say I am the new devil on the block that is what they called Jesus for telling them the truth
I am flesh and blood not a spirit being how can I be a devil think there spirit and man is not a spirit he is flesh I can be like the devil but I am not the devil clear

So wake up I am the result of "Crimes Embassy" evil deeds twisting the bible you are just its hostage I feel sorry for you

You really need to learn the english language cos your tenses are confusing
Thank God for the Holy spirit I have cos for people who don't know Him and the power He gives, their heads will ache after reading lines of your post
DISASTROUS!!!

@diluminati started this thread to ridicule CEC and Christians and gave pple like @crossman9 a platform to call a MOG names. Wat pains me the most is that @diluminati used to be a Christian but by constantly visiting Nairaland and reading the posts by the many atheist on this forum, she converted to one of them and became an atheist.
I just hope what @crossman9 is doing will not lead some people out of Christiandom and into utter darkness.

@diluminati, Jesus still loves u and He is still reaching out to u b4 it becomes too late.

hahahahahahahaha@cross man

last warning: do not talk evil of any man of God otherwise,

HERE IS THE SIGN OF CULT and this is talking about

CHRIST EMBASSY CHURCH

Pastor Anita Oyakhilome:
26th February birthday 
Pastor Chris Oyakhilome:
December 7th birthday


They call the leader father
They call the leader daddy
They call the leader general


(KJV) Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

It was putting spiritual power in the hands of the leaders and not the  members a spiritual “Oligarchy” leadership style i.e


1.   Some have said you are interferer in mens afairs   (Y)   Fine
2.   Some People say you are Jesus Christ in a white suite?    (X)(X)   (N.I.V)Matthew 24:4-5,11,14,24-26-51
3.   Your our life coach    (X)   (N.I.V)Matthew 23:10
4.   Your our teacher    (X)   (N.I.V) (Matthew 10:24 Matthew 23:8
5.   Your our father    (X)(X)   Matthew 23:9
6.   Your Our Daddy    (X)(X)   Matthew 23:9
7.   We glory in your bossem    (X)(X)   (K.J.V) 1 Corinthians 1:26-31 (Romans 15:17).
8.   Your our prophet    (X)   50% right
9.   Your Our man of god    (Y)   50% right
10.   Your a Gift to the World    (X)   (K.J.V) John 3:16
11.   God gave you as a Gift to the World    (X)   (K.J.V) John 3:16
12.   You Have Made Us Champions For Life    (X)   Hebrews 12:2
13.   You’re the best there is no one like you   (Y)   50% right, Matthew 23:11-12
14.   Pastor    (Y)   Ephesians 4:11 100% right
15.   Your are God’s General     (Y)   50% right
Here is a statement of what was said in gride formate above the letter (Y) means it is “Biblecally” Correct and  the (X) mark means it is “Blasphemy” and a “Heresies” “Biblecally” incorrect but if it is marked double (X)(X) this means it’s very wrong according to the bible?

(K.J.V) Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
(N.I.V) Matthew 12:36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken

(N.I.V Matthew 23:1-12
A Warning Against Hypocrisy
1 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
3So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5 “Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long;
5 they love the place of honour at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
8“But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers.
9And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah.
11The greatest among you will be your servant.
12For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

(N.I.V) James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
(N.I.V) James 3:18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

But it all seems to me like there skimming the people for more money, if not for books it is for some other thing it’s like a game let’s make the Pastor rich game so I commemorate this piece of art work to (Pastor Chris) and his spiritual "entrepreneurship"

An entrepreneur is a person who has possession of a new enterprise, venture or idea and is accountable for the inherent risks and the outcome.[note 1] The term was originally a loanword from French and was first defined by the Irish-French economist Richard Cantillon. Entrepreneur in English is a term applied to a person who is willing to launch a new venture or enterprise and accept full responsibility for the outcome. Jean-Baptiste Say, a French economist, is believed to have coined the word "entrepreneur" in the 19th century - he defined an entrepreneur as "one who undertakes an enterprise, especially a contractor, acting as intermediatory between capital and labour".[note 2] A broader definition by French Economist J.B. Say (1800) "The entrepreneur shifts economic resources out of lower and into higher productivity and greater yield."

Bolingbroke, Henry St. John, Viscount (1678-1751) Plan truth will influence half a score of men at most in a nation. Or an age, while mystery will lead millions by the nose. [Letter, 1721]

Jesus over turns the tables for making sales in the house of God.
(NIV) BIBLE
Mark 11:15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple area and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,

Mark 11:16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.

Mark 11:17 And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " 'My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations'? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.' "

Mark 11:17 And as he taught them, he said, "Is it not written: " 'My house will be called a
house of prayer for all nations' ? But you have made it 'a den of robbers.' "

Mark 11:18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.

(NIV) James 3:16 For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.
(KJV) James 3:16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.

Little conclusion this church loves to the practice the “Mushroom Treatment” with the “Truth” “Mushroom Treatment” Is an expression or concept of thought? In which it comes from the following:
Mushrooms are grown in the “Dark” and feed on “Excrement” or “Poo” for the uneducated.
This is how they in “Christ Embassy” members are grown; this is also how i.e. “Church Members” are feed, fed on “Lies” and denied the “Light of Truth” and kept in the dark which is deception?

(NIV) John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
(KJV) John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

But I will be called “Nap peels” for coming out with this, and will be called “Carnal” which come from the (Latin carn meaning flesh like)
As some pronounce the word babies as “Nap peels” there pronouncing which is wrong clearly along with the meaning of the word there trying to say. I urged you to get yourself a (Young’s Analytical Concordance) or a (Strong’s Analytical Concordance) here is the correct rendering from the with a clear meaning from the “Greek and Hebrew”
The word babes Page 66 (Y.A.C)
Here all the words that pertain to the word babe
Babe 1. boy,lad, Hebrew “Naar”
Exodus 2:6
2. suckling growing youth, Hebrew  “Olel” meaning
3. babe (New Born, or Unbnorn) Greek “Brephos”
4. (without speech) Greek “Nepios”
Not like the word here which is “Nap peels” mispronounced like this false teacher prophet says with his “Co-Pastors”
5. schiel, inischievous Hebrew “Taalulim”
I would say they need a speech therapist.
Thank God I was born an “Israelite”.
car•nal (kär n l) adj.
1. Relating to the physical and especially intimate appetites: carnal desire.
2. Worldly or earthly; temporal: the carnal world.
3. Of or relating to the body or flesh; bodily: carnal remains.
[Middle English, from Old North French carnel, from Latin carnlis, from Latin car, carn-, flesh; see sker-1 in Indo-European roots. car•nal i•ty (kär-nl-t) n. car nal•ly adv.

And I will be accused of only thinking in the flesh, but i live in my “Earthly Suit” (24/7 360 Days A Year) which is the flesh, so living in the flesh is truism for me.

so it is clear they keep you so distracted that you don’t notice what is really going on in the church there is a another cleaver purpose that most in the church, are not aware of and this is it, most company pay their staff on the first of the month, or near the end of the month, but most in the church would never work this out because there kept, very busy with “Religious Propaganda” about “Sowing Seeds” and end time harvest,  keep this in mind if the church is the woman in scripture which it is, there is got be some “Harlots” presenting its herself as a “Lady” and a “Bride Of Christ” but in fact she is a “Spiritual LovePeddler” making sales of herself to the highest bidder, meaning there nothing more profiteers in this church.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
New Living Translation (©2007)
2 Peter 2:3 In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction will not be delayed.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
2 Peter 2:3 And by greed and fictitious accounts they will make profit among you, these whose judgment from the first has not been idle and their destruction does not sleep.

and this so called “Bride Of Christ” as they have been coined, have turn the image of the husband in to a “Biddable Dog” wagging its tale for their own purposes, and the members are lead on a leash, for what they have which is money?
I am not saying they are the LovePeddler in revelation but they are part of it? (Revelation 17): which most scholars known as “Rome” the “Catholic Church” is the “Mother of Harlots” this church does after all call its self the “Universal Church” and the word “Universal” means “Catholic” clear as crystal this church is one of the “Mother Churches” Harlots, and just as they teach you come to Christ and your life will be rich all the twists on truth, this makes me sick inside, saying come to Christ and you will be rich who would not want to serve a God that would make you rich, the carrot and the stick for this “Spiritual Donkey” it does not mean rich in wealth but knowledge of Christ but there is a blessing that does bring wealth but this should never be the goal but the goal should be love and service the lord?
But now you see all the real intent of what they do and the real lay out for the church.

I count all things lost that I may gain Christ

(N.I.V) Philippians 3:8 What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ

(NIV) Hebrews 2:1 We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.
(KJV) 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.


(NIV) John 8:32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
(KJV) John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
(NIV) Jeremiah 7:28 Therefore say to them, 'This is the nation that has not obeyed the Lord its God or responded to correction. Truth has perished; it has vanished from their lips.
(NIV) John 4:23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
(NIV) John 4:24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."
Notice “we must worship him in spirit and in truth for the father seeks” meaning he wants us to worship him with his “Truth” and with his “Spirit” but if “Truth” has stumbled in the street like the prophet Isaiah said how can we claim to know him but what does the bible have to say?
(NIV) Isaiah 59:14 So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.

(NIV) Isaiah 59:15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. The Lord looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

(NIV) Isaiah 59:16 He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to
intervene; so his own arm worked salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him.

(NIV) Jeremiah 7:28 Therefore say to them, 'This is the nation that has not obeyed the Lord its God or responded to correction. Truth has perished; it has vanished from their lips.

Jeremiah notice how he said Truth has perished; it has vanished from their lips. And there is no correction Isaiah says honesty cannot enter this simple to anyone I thought the word “Truth” is what God is and he is the father “Truth” and the word “Truth” appears (237) times in the “King James Bible” and (238) times in the “New International Version” so why such a miss mash of thinking, well the father of all lies was taking hold of them, the “Devil” he is the father of all “Lies” and he does not hold to the “Truth” for he has been a liar from the beginning.   
(NIV) John 8:43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
(NIV) John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
(NIV) John 8:45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
(NIV) John 8:46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?
(NIV) John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

(KJV) John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

(KJV) John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
(KJV) John 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
(KJV) John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
(KJV) John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

(NIV) Galatians 4:16 Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?

(NIV) 3rd John 1:3 It gave me great joy to have some brothers come and tell about your faithfulness to the truth and how you continue to walk in the truth.

(NIV) 3rd John 1:4 I have no greater joy than to hear that my children are walking in the truth.

(NIV) Revelation 12:9 The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

(KJV) Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

(NIV) John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the
Father except through me.
(KJV) John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

(Percy Bysshe Shelley. August 4, 1792 – July 8, 1822) Quote: All spirits are enslaved which serve things evil. (Demogorgon, Act II, sc. iv, l. 110)

(NIV) Romans 12:3 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.
The Reason Why Mankind Does Not know the Creator or Have Peace
This is the reason why the law was introduced in the first place it was for the betterment of all the human race, and for the sinner to know the will and intent to the creator to save mankind from himself but man rejects the creators instruction this is why to this day man is not at peace he loves his own wisdom but the lord sent his spirit yet people still rebel and rebellion is the same as the sin of witch craft this is why without the spirit and the law together men are lost?
(NIV) 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, he has rejected you as king."
(KJV) 1 Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
(KJV) Proverbs 28:7 Whoso keepeth the law is a wise son: but he that is a companion of riotous men shameth his father.
(KJV) Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
(KJV) Proverbs 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
(NIV) Psalms 119:97 Oh, how I love your law! I meditate on it all day long.
What we can see here is this for lack of vision people will and do perish, but people who are blind use the a rod for direction which is the commandments of the lord God as it is a light to their path as above it is lamp and a light and instruction so if you have not vision there is the law of God, to guide a person that as no vision so people don’t have to perish for lack vision like some of the these false prophets teach this is the real reason the lord gave us his commandments just in case there is no vision that is why he said happy is he who keeps the law? In (Proverbs 29:18) it is clear even to the blind the law is the only way to see if you have no vision and more if some false prophet’s try’s to control you saying he has a vision or you’re lost without him you won’t have him there to help you share in his so called vision of coming events or deep insight into gaining possession meaning their vision to make lots of money or like when they say the prosperity is in the mouth of your prophet?

(KJV) Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
But these commandments of the lord where sent to teach men to love each other this is my conclusion?
The royal law of all is which is love and to love your neighbour

@diluminati

If you want her to have a solid foundation and have not left the faith then the so called faithful should be faith full to the truth of the bible and act on what it teaches because if you want people to walk in the light then you must become the children of light
But this is the real reason this person left because she did not get the right food in the first place, if she had been healed like I was and if she has God speaking  to her or him or them every day then they would not have left but would have be a “burning and a shining light”
As your church likes to say and now you “we are in the year of the word of God”
Your words should be that of the word not some copycat conception’s of the false teacher you call “a man of god” if you just take the time to read the bible, you would not walk in the traps of deceptions and if this person you told us all about (diluminati) has left the faith of our one true God, then it is to our shame and on that note all of us are to blame?
Including me?
The mission is not to destroy faith but to reconstruct it and to place it; On a more sure foundation of scripture not your daily devotionals
If this person would like to talk to me find me on face book

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I would be happy to debunk the “theory of evolution”
Or as I like to call it the “Theory of Evil Allusions” 

There is also some that teach in the realm of science as long as your (D.N.A) Exists you exist so even in the (Think tank of scientific school of thought shows there is an eternal being concept) so there is nothing new about this but the (second law of thermal dynamics teaches that things go from a state of order to a state of disorder? Some schools of thought teach matter is eternal which is madness if you use the simple law used their (Second Law of Thermal Dynamics) thing go from a state of order/to disorder?
Things “Oxidise” break down just like in the realms of science, every man has his own theory to how where why and when? But it is clear that in the universe there are established rules and Laws?
What goes up must come down?
So we must weigh and measure the truth according to the scripture?

Is love feast biblical
« #40 on: February 07, 2012, 06:25 PM »
kunyeo

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Crossman9. I can help and consult/edit for you free of charge if you are serious about publishing the book.The only condition is, be sure you are speaking nothing but absolute truth.moryina777@yahoo.co.uk

thanks could make your email more clear i am on face book

Is love feast biblical
« #40 on: February 07, 2012, 06:25 PM »
kunyeo

Crossman (or is it axe man), you are a very busy man.

Woe to them that call evil good
By way the of way of deception they make strong delusion’s and false vision
New International Version (©1984)
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Then the LORD said, "These prophets are telling lies in my name. I did not send them or tell them to speak. I did not give them any messages. They prophesy of visions and revelations they have never seen or heard. They speak foolishness made up in their own lying hearts.

English Standard Version (©2001)
And the LORD said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name. I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them; they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility and the deception of their own minds.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Then the LORD told me, "These are the lies that the prophets are telling in my name: They claim that I sent them, commanded them, and spoke to them. They dreamed up the visions they tell you. Their predictions are worthless. They are the products of their own imagination.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.

American King James Version
Then the LORD said to me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spoke to them: they prophesy to you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nothing, and the deceit of their heart.

We are not command to follow visions but to follow Christ
And in Christ embassy they are told to follow Pastor Chris
Follow him on twitter
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Yokoos
On YouTube
On Pastor Chris live
And many more social mediums
It’s not about Christ
It’s about Pastor Chris


When it should be about Christ and his mission nothing more not how to get rich like they teach
Christ and Christ alone

you are right i am a busy man its a wake up call to the those who sleep in the church to know there is a false hood in the air it called christ embassy

i am not the devil on the block but i know some here call me this i tell you the truth i am not satan keep it real

jack and the bean stock choping down the tree of deception

Choooii!!!!

Hehehehehe, see Crossman ooo, bros na u be that? U wan take down CHRIST EMBASSY with ur tiny book, u knw how many influential people wey don try?
Do u even begin to comprehend the magnitude of what ur hallucinating about?
Since February shaa, I hope u've had enough resources to pursue that dream.