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Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by eastOFwest(m): 9:49pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
afam4eva: Guy leave matter, have you lived amongst Ikwerre's before? There's nothing in their demeanour, lifestyle or work ethic that suggests Igbo. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by dayokanu(m): 9:50pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
In the interview with President, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Ralph Uwechue, published in the Daily Sun March 10, the President was asked what efforts he was making to unite Igbo in Rivers and Delta states, he said: “First of all, it should be understood that these factions who now deny the fact they are Igbo did so only after the civil war; take for instance the Ikwerre people… fully identified with us during the pre-civil war era but because the Igbo lost the civil war, a kind of stigma was smeared on them making a lot of people to start adjusting their names to sound less Igbo…”. This statement is misleading and not correct. The bolded. Some m0rons on the edo Thread claimed they can differentiate 2 Southern Nigerian by looks. What could be more id10tic. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Ngodigha1(m): 9:50pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
Henritwist:Common, shut up your rotten mouth. What makes them non Igbo and others such as my own Ibusa, Nkwerre, Izii, Nnewi, Nsukka etc Igbo?. Stinking pig. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by eastOFwest(m): 9:52pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
ChinenyeN: I want that open platter. Serve it to me, I no run. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Ngodigha1(m): 9:56pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
eastOFwest:Quit being silly here. The Ikwerre are close to Riverine people and as a result have borrowed the riverine way of life. It is just as Aros are close to Ibibio and has some Ibibio traditions. Ikwerre people are 100% Igbo. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by ChinenyeN(m): 9:58pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
eastOFwest:Are you blind as well? You just received the open platter from Afam. Yet, see the response you gave to him. . eastOFwest: If anything, the above is a clear indication that you have no intention of learning what you do not know. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by eastOFwest(m): 9:58pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
Ngodigha1: You can quite easily say too, that ikwerres are riverine poeple that are close to Igbos and as a result have borrowed some Igbo elements. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by iiiyyyk(m): 10:02pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
eastOFwest: YOUR reasoning is so narrow. Native language and name is what we are talking about, not second language. we answer english names because all those country you mention were colonized by Britain hence we accept english as our second language. we are not english that is why we take test of english b4 studing abroad. Does it mean ikwerre's answer igbo name and speak igbo language, becouse Igbos colonized them? Abeg tell US [center]Ikwerre are igbos but not of Igbo nation. A man can chose his Nation but not his Origin.[/center] 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
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Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by pazienza(m): 10:07pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
dayokanu: Dayo,ikwerre people are not too important to other igbo tribes,they are not the only igbo tribe with oil,Asa ,ndoni(anioma),egbema,ndoki tribes also have oil,but ndiigbo don't depend on oil,the most important igbo tribe today,are those igbos indigenious to bonny,they offer the igbo nation what we lack,ikwerre is landlocked. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by odumchi: 10:08pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
The funny thing is that most of these people called Ikwerre are the descendants of Igbo settlers from my town (Arochukwu), Mbaise and Ngwaland but I digress. Prior to Nairaland, I had never heard anything about Ndi mba Ikwerre not being Igbo. The last time I was in Port Harcourt (which wasn't too long ago), I stayed with my uncle (who's an Ngwa man) and his friend (who was Ikwerre). We all conversed freely in Igbo and in the whole conversation, I never heard him explicitly say or even imply that he wasn't Igbo. It was nothing more than three Igbos conversing. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by naijaking1: 10:09pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
pazienza: Tribe? I guess you don't know the meaning of that word. Your so-called Ikwerre tribe was founded after the civil war the defeat of Biafra? What about Asaba tribe, Onitsha tribe, Nsukka tribe, and of course Enugu tribe |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Chinom(m): 10:10pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
I also deny being African and black. I'm actually Chinese. Everyone is free to deny anything at anytime. WE KNOW WHAT WE SEE AND HEAR WHEN WE SEE YOU. Their IGBO names (First and surnames) says it all. this thread is a waste of time anyway. Origin, roots is not and can never be equated with location. Here is a puzzle for you guys. If an African elephant is taken to an American zoo, is it still an African elephant or an American elephant. This is the question African Americans are trying to resolve. Same goes for Ikwere people. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Ngodigha1(m): 10:10pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
eastOFwest:Can you stop displaying further stupidity in this thread. Aro people have borrowed a lot of Ibibio culture yet they are still Igbo. Why did you not comment about that. Why not allow the Ikwerres to do the talking?. If an Ijebu says he or she is not Yoruba, does that mean that Ijebus are not Yorubas. Get a life lil boy. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Afam4eva(m): 10:12pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
@eastofwest Abeg which one be Igbo deamenour? Do all Igbos act alike? Society shapes people you know. An onitsha persona and his Ngwa brother don't have the same disposition. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by ChinenyeN(m): 10:12pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
99+% of the people posting here don't even know the first thing about Iwheroha origins. mtchww |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by emmalexabl(m): 10:13pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
@poster, who are these ppl sef. .we all know that an average ikwere man is laziness personified and a liability if u happen to stay wit them. .they only know hw to sell land and rear goats, i fink hausas are even far better. . |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by osifred(m): 10:35pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
It is only the ibos dat force other pple to be dia clan men. haba we hav said we r nt part of ibo is it by force? am from Ogba in Rivers State n everyday i get to argue wit ibos abt dis. we may share certain cultural similarities buh dat doesnt mean we r ibo. tracing our ancestry history u wil discover we hav tieds with the Benin Kingdom nt ibo nevertheless i stand to be correct if am wrong. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by iiiyyyk(m): 10:43pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
emmalexabl: ikwerre is 2 n half L G A in river state their major occupation is land selling. Most of them are now tenants to boys in PH. Nigerians make una no kill igbos too much success they worry them. igbos remember many will out of jealousy, hate and talk you down becouse you people are the most succesful ethnic nationality in nigeria. base on your individual hard work not from national looting |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by pazienza(m): 10:44pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
naijaking1: I believe that igbo is not a tribe but a nation,composed of many tribes. Ikwerre has always been a tribe,just like ngwa,nkanu,nsukka,anioma(enu ani/ukwuani),izzi,asa,ndoki,etc,they are all tribes that make up the igbo nation,onitsha is in anambra,yet you can see that they always lean towards their brothers in anioma,even the asa in rivers and will always lean towards their brothers in ukwa west abia state. If you start seeing the igbo as a nation made up of tribes,only then will you start understanding how this igbo thing works. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by dayokanu(m): 10:45pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
PStylish: Co-signed. Yorubas dont care if you are from ibadan and say you are not Yoruba, no one would fight youfor it. Actually you would see many groups from Benin, Cuba, brazil, Sierra leone etc coming to say they are related to yoruba, Yorubas wont be going to claim them and actually fighting with them But for Ibos its always like that. Per your example. I have a friend whose whole family bear Ibo names like Chinyere, Ifeanyi, Nduka, Ugochukwu yet still tells me he is not Ibo that he is Ndokwa. I have never heard any Ekiti, ilaje, Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha claim they are not Yoruba before Huge difference |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by dayokanu(m): 10:49pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
pazienza: I get your point, If anyone says he isnt something just leave him alone and dont argue if African Americans come tomorrow and say they dont have a link to Africa, it would be silly of me to start arguing with him and trying to convince him he is from Africa If you are from Enugu and say you are not Ibo, na your palava be that, if you are from Ibadan and even have tribal marks yet say you are not Yoruba but norwegian, na you sabi 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by pazienza(m): 10:58pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
osifred: I reckon that ogbuehi francis ellah,tried his best to cure ogba people of this madness when he was still alive,well,the wise man is no more,and the madness has finally ravished you guys. The goodnews is that Ogba has more to gain from igbo nation,than it has to offer,ndiigbo will not mis your backward town,ijaw people can find better things to do with it,Ogba is a landlocked bush |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by kizito96(m): 10:59pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
The Ikwere people are under identity crises, the Oguta people are also claiming to come from River State. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by ak47mann(m): 11:03pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
pazienza:but awori people say they no be Yoruba nah |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by ak47mann(m): 11:05pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
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Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by bulksms247(m): 11:09pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
Am proudly igbo, anything igbo gathers and attracts everyone here GREAT IGBO NATION, haters knws wot to do |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by pazienza(m): 11:13pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
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Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by pazienza(m): 11:32pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
iiiyyyk: I don't agree with this,land selling is not an ikwerre thing,it happens to any group whose town become 'developed' and the value of the land becomes high.In enugu,ogui people have sold all their lands to other igbo people,further south,amechi people have sold the whole of uwani,achara layout,idaw river and now they are selling awkunanaw. Here in Aba,ngwa people have finished selling their lands to igbo people they call 'ohuhu', Onitsha have finished selling their lands to igbos they call 'nwa onye igbo',the money from the land sales was so sweet that they went on a land grab mission in their neighbouring towns. So,are we equally going to say that onitsha,amaechi,ogui,ngwa people are lazy people? |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by OneNaira6: 11:40pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
dayokanu: Actually No you do not. The Yoruba claim they claim they have connection with the Yoruba. You should reread the Benin thread, the Edo on NL identified that neither Yoruba nor Igbo have any connection with them, they share similar heritage, some similar words but the two main groups are not similar to them. Did you miss the actual Edo replies such as Physics, Gareth, etc on that thread? The only group whom kept speaking of the connection was Yoruba. Let stop lying to ourselves sometimes. Cubans and Brazilians claim Yoruba identity because they are of Yoruba stock just like Dominican Republic, African-American, Jamaicans, and some Afro-Europeans claim Igbo heritage because they are of Igbo stock. |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by Nobody: 11:45pm On Feb 08, 2012 |
Word on the road abi word on the street? I don't expect you to know London slangs - with a flat head and flat brain, village Ibo man, Word on the street = American slang Word on the road = London slang |
Re: Why Do Ikwerre Igbos Reject Their Igbo Identity? by OneNaira6: 12:22am On Feb 09, 2012 |
I've spoken from an Igbo SS point of view on how things are over there but I noticed every word we, SS Igbo, says gets ignored and the word of non-Igbo from every region is heard. There will always be a point of confusion among SE and SS Igbo if one region refuses to listen to another region. To reference back to Odumchi story, I nod in agreement: Yes there are deniers from Ikwerre, just like there are deniers from Ika and deniers from other area of ND. It exists but not as high as the SE Igbo and non-Igbo claim it to be. Ever wonder to yourself why the few Ikwerre we know in the public eyes, have countlessly identified as Igbo. If not for ak47mann reply, I wouldn't have known Julius Agwu was Ikwerre; for a while I thought he was a SE Igbo because of his uncontrollable pride of the Igbo identity. Even if an Ikwerre non-deniers comes on NL and speak on the behalf of his people, reference to you all how many are deniers and how many are not, I'll predict the future and say: every-word the person says would travel from one ear and leave the next. Case in point Igboboy: Igboboy is an Ikwerre man from his maternal side and he's repeated the same thing I've said countless time based upon he’s interaction from his maternal sides family and Ikwerre he’s been around but una no hear am. To eastofwest or whatever you call yourself I don't like it when people spread lies about my people; neither do I appreciate it when bigots try to cause division between my people from our people. Anyone whose been to Asaba would narrate to you the Igbo pride of Asabian is immense. Finding Igbo deniers among Asabaians is like finding a needle in a haystack; you are more likely to find an Igbo denier in SE than in Asaba. Lynxx, a musician I've met and spoken to and whom have also identified himself as Igbo repeatedly is whom you choose to make up lies about. Mscheww, tomorrow now story don change to Don jazzy denied Igbo. On the topic of the Edo thread E be like say the Yoruba did not bother reading any of the replies on that thread because I'm noticing all the reference back to it by some bigots, all una saw was Igbo. Na wa oo!!! The OP of the Edo thread mentioned the need or the reason for the creation of that thread was the constant dragging of Edo to West by the Yoruba on NL whenever the concept of breaking up surfaces. The topic was rather and or would have been a cultural thread that should have debunked a myth and give incite to history, it did when the Benin were the replies but it turned political and tribal bashing when other groups joined. As if I was expecting a lesser outcome. I rather say I learned a lot, historical, from the actual Edo people on NL. Too bad the monikers and fake accounts destroyed the maturity of Edo people by claiming them. I just noticed many of una do not realize Edo is a state that composes of many ethnic groups beside Benin. The Esan, Afemai/Emai, Ijaw, Urhobo/Isoko, etc are also part of Edo groups and the Esan, Afemai, Emai, Ijaw and to some extent Urhobo/Isoko do not feel any connection to SW but rather to SE and have voiced it thus justifiable to the creation of the thread. He unfortunately, added Benin into that group as well to debunk to Yoruba and Edo connection myth but instead of debunking a myth, all he did was create a myth to debunk a myth. I like how the Benin's on NL denied both group without resulting into insult. The maturity of Benin's on NL is something to awe upon. |
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