rabzy:

In 1987, a non-scientific study (Munson) was conducted of more than 100 members of a lesbian social organization in Colorado. When asked what techniques they used in their last 10 love.making sessions, 100% were for kissing, sucking on ni.pples, and manual stimulation of the clit.oris; more than 90% reported French kiss.ing, MouthAction, and fingers inserted into the va.gina; and 80% reported tribadism.

98% of the whole sample gave a history of sex.ual activity with women, 83% within the past year, with a median of one female partner in that year. 85% of the sample reported intimate activity with men; for most (70%) this was 4 or more years ago. First intimate experience tended to be with a man (median 18 years old), with first sex.ual experience with a woman a few years later (median 21 years). Or.al sex , vag.ina.l penetration with fingers, and mutual masturba.tion were the most commonly reported se.xual practices between women. V.aginal penetration with joystick or fingers and mutual masturbati.on were the most commonly reported intimate activities with men, http://sti.bmj.com/content/79/2/147.full

PHILADELPHIA -- L.esbians under age 30 commonly practice va.ginal penetrative sex manually or with intimacy gadgets, "Participants in all four groups reported that vagin.al penetrative practices using se.x toys and fingers/hands were practiced commonly. A.nal penetrative sex was also mentioned in each group," she said.

Of the 10 women in the 18-22 age group, 7 reported using a v.aginal insertion intimacy gadget, and 6 said they cleaned the toy between use on themselves and use on a partner. Of the 14 women in the 23-29 age group, 11 reported both toy use and cleaning.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYD/is_10_39/ai_n6078885/

Vagin.al penetration by a partner’s finger or tongue is common, as is the insertion of foreign objects. Some lesbians use dildos to replace the sensations that accompany Reproduction with a man. But, because many dildos are shaped like a p.enis, some controversy exists in the lesbian community as to their use. Many lesbians reject dildos because they are male-defined, which clashes with the strong political beliefs of some lesbians.

Or.al sex is a very common practice by lesbians and includes in most if not all cases penetration of the va.gina by the tongue.  

Take note that these reports were done because of the high incidence of  bacterial vaginosis amongst lesbians as oppose to heteros, to determine why this is the case and what safety precautions should be followed to reduce the risk.

ortopazz:

IF SHE ENJOYS THE JOYSTICK THINGS THEN SHE  cant then be a lezzzzzbian

henryskywalker2003:

@OP, like someone has suggested, you need to work on yourself first before trying to work on her. Fornication is also a sin you know. It doesn't make sense for you to try to tell her to give up a particular type of sin for anoda. If you really love her, give yourself to Christ and then you can lead her to Christ too, otherwise you're just digging a fresh hole to fill up an old one.
@Inked_Nerd, slimyem and et al. My dear, it's tru sin is sin. There might not be any one bigger than the other but one thing I know for sure is this, some can bring God's wrath on one faster than others, some can be more deeply rooted than others and yet again some can be more deadly than others. Whenever I come across you guys posts, my heart gets heavy most especially when I see you quoting scriptures. It shows that you already know the Word of God but have chosen to harden your heart against the part that concerns you especially. But my prayer for you guys is that God's mercy will never let you go. Say hi to Dyt and the others. Kinda suprised she hasn't posted on this topic yet.
P.S. Am no saint and I can never tell someone that he/she has no right to talk to me about my sinful ways unless he/she is a saint. God doesn't have a set of people He uses to get our attention. He can use anyone even the devil himself.

kambili190:

@Inked_Nerd

PEACE 

I agree with many points you've made. And indeed it is irrelevant when you discover if you're straight, homo or bi.

Brodafred:

Though some people might have said this or that but the truth is still that something  bad is bad and there is nothing we can do about it this how God created us and no human being has the moral right to change what God has made, having said that you can convince her with many heartfelt questions, which will equally make her to search her conscience though such a people sometimes have stony heart, that are dead and without feelings any more.
1. Ask her about making babies
2. ask her if her mother where to be like her will she be born?
3 ask her if she can stand boldly before everybody to declare her status.
4. Finally show her from the scriptures the judgement awaiting her likes.

irich21:

Don't listen to anyone dt thinks it difficult convincin her, evrythin is possible, just let her knw dt homosexuality is abt de worst sin hence God destroyed two cities for just dt sin, it's dt bad, hence the need to change frm it,
Show her luv, dn't go tryin to do de same thing her partners do to her just give her a shoulder to lean on, be there for her, it means alot to girls, dey always need smone to tell evrythin, a listenin ear, and b4 u knw it, she'll b a different person, I bet u it works like,

rabzy:

@Inked_Nerd

Nice Write-up and definitely different angles at seeing the whole story.

The possibility that the men/people were just interested in knowing if they were enemies spies does not jell with me. First if anybody was above suspicion it should be Lot. Remember his Uncle Abraham used his own army and personally funded the the war that returned all the people including their kings back to their land and even when they wanted to give Abraham some part he bluntly refused. Lot should be well respected and above suspicion because his presence amongst them saved them. Lot was a wealthy chieftain and a well known man in the city.

If they just wanted to know who these men are, they would have sent their representatives to Lot and conducted the affair in a diplomatic manner, and not the frenzied mob we read about.

In places where 'know' is used as intercourse, it is the context that indicates what is implied. Lot offering his daughter to satisfy their intimate urges shows what is implied. Lot is a very wealthy man, his daughters' dowries are insignificant compared to his wealth.
If Lot was just offering them as slaves, how does that make the people know who these men are? how does that reveal the identity or purpose of the angel's visit?
How much would the sale of two slaves add to the economy or wealth of a whole city or crowd.

Even before he knew their purpose he asked them to stay overnight, and of course the door would be closed because they were about to retire for the night. So being behind closed doors should not arouse suspicion. The door was meant to be closed.  If its a normal practice to extend such hospitality to strangers, then the suspicion is not warranted. The Bible also never said they were perpetually in a state of war. The enemy nation was soundly defeated by Lot's Uncle Abraham. If anybody was in danger of being attacked, it would have been Abraham, who was a tent dweller and also he was the one that single-handedly defeated them. So if anyone was going to take out Sodom and Gomorrah, they would have first neutralized their defender Abraham.

Yes the name Sodom and sodomite was after the-fact, the ancient names of the city has probably been lost, but such usage occurs very often in the Bible, where the Bible mentions a cities name and describe an incident which gives the city its name.


The worship of idols is something very Abominable before God and so were other practices such as 'cheating with wrong scales'. Many acts associated with Idol worship apart from the worshipping of idols itself were abominable. God specifically said burning of children in fire for worship which was happening in Jerusalem and was copied from the worship of Molech was very detestable and was something that never ever came to his mind.

Various forms of intimate perverseness was done by the canaanites in their worship such as bestiality and this was also condemned as abominable. Male and female LovePeddler were also employed in their temple and God was warning them not to bring such practice into his own house, in fact the price or money gained or paid for such acts should not be brought into the temple. The money itself also was detestable.


(Deuteronomy 23:17-18) 17 “None of the daughters of Israel may become a temple LovePeddler, neither may anyone of the sons of Israel become a temple LovePeddler. 18 You must not bring the hire of a harlot or the price of a dog into the house of Jehovah your God for any vow, because they are something detestable to Jehovah your God, even both of them.

So its not just Idolatry that is condemned, every act connected with it and which God has not commanded is detestable.

(1 Kings 14:24) 24 And even the male temple LovePeddler proved to be in the land. They acted according to all the detestable things of the nations whom Jehovah had driven out from before the sons of Israel.

Any form of Idolatry or even having an image or praying to a god was abhorrent to God, intimate immorality was also a sin, now importing all the filthy intimate practices and combining it with worship was beyond abhorrent, and that is why a broad word 'lewdness, loose conduct, lasciviousness,' etc was often used to group them together.

In the scriptures and especially for xtians anything beyond sex between married heterosexual individuals is a sin.

Now God wants but does not expect everyone to live by the standards he had set, he knows some people 'even in the land of straightforwardness would be crooked'. These are the wicked and he has said his Judgement.

(Jude 7) So too Sod′om and Go‧mor′rah and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.

(Leviticus 18:22) 22 “‘And you must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable thing.

(Romans 1:26) That is why God gave them up to disgraceful intimate appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature;