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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:11pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
SailorXY: apart from positional awareness & the lack of long passes from deep, he did very well in my opinion. he got busy but not having him next to mata ruined the chemistry in the final third. rooney failed in herrera's previous role - most of rooney's passes were sideways & the passes didn't hurt chelsea. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Emaprince: 2:12pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
Had hazard scored that sitter......smh |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 2:21pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar:I don't even know how the two natural holding midfielders can get injured together for such a crucial fixture. the chemistry on both flanks could have been preserved @ all cost but LvG's arm was twisted. Valencia added nothing going forward & also stopped tracking Hazard's run prior to the goal for reasons best known to him. we can't rely on Carrick next season, another intelligent grafter is paramount! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:21pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: so what is football power? akinfenwa sent an email to FIFA when he heard of a rumour that he would lose his first place as the most powerful player in the world. he said he's going to challenge whoever wins his place to a bench-pressing task. FIFA quickly replied him that no one can take his place and he retained his title. all these physical components count.... robben has pace but he has no power. ramires has pace & stamina but no strength. i fail to see how you can put robben & ramires in the same echelon when they have varying physical attributes.
pace, yes power, no. you are the one using the word power loosely. robben gets easily bullied off the ball.....although much of it is him being cheeky and trying to cheat the officials but he's powerless against physical monsters like bony, emenike, toure or pogba. those are FIFA's most powerful players. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by lekkie073(m): 2:22pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
ElFenomeno1:go and do thanksgiving in church because of that.... On another note, with the way I percieve , the number of cups arsenal have lifted that u watched live might probably be just one.....three at most.... Guess this is the only reason u r so much obsessed with seeing manutd fail....matured arsenal fans that saw the anelka/henry days don't display moronic tendencies... #no offense |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:26pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
SailorXY: kompany killed daley blind with that tackle. carrick just hobbled off the pitch, he's old so his case is understandable.
•pogba •vidal •bender •gundogan |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:45pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar: But he is not the most powerful from our analysis using the FIFA stat. Robben is. coogar: Robben doesnt get bullied off the ball? How is Pogba and Emenike the most powerful? Pogba Physical 75 Acceleration 79 Agility 60 Balance 87 Jumping 78 Reactions 77 Sprint Speed 87 Stamina 90 Strength Emenike Physical 89 Acceleration 66 Agility 68 Balance 63 Jumping 80 Reactions 87 Sprint Speed 81 Stamina 90 Strength |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:51pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: akinfenwa is. google him
robben isn't strong on the ball. this is why he dives. he dives to protect himself from the big bullies.
are you really asking this question?
pay attention to the bolded items. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 2:54pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar: *What am I to do with google when there are stats? * Why do you want me to pay attention to the last two when we have 8. Even Akinfenwa is weak in stamina and you still say he has football power. Someone who will gas out if he were to chase Januzaj twice. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:04pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: FIFA officially named him the strongest player in the world. so yes....you should google him.
because the last 2 is what propelled akinfenwa to be the strongest in the world in 2 seasons in a row. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:17pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar:Bender & Pogba are the durable guys here. hope we buy them both sef. Bender has OK pace & pawa perfect for the EPL. Pogba has enough ground in England already but cost heard a £50m bid was rejected for him recently... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:17pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar: Strong doesnt mean 'football power'. There is a separate list for strong. If Hulk Hogan enrols as a footballer today, he would be the strongest man. But it wont mean he he has football power. Pace and power. coogar: He is only strong. We are talking of football power. When they keep saying Robben has pace and power. FIFA 15 stated 8 items under a clear header titled 'PHYSICAL'. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:24pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: if strong doesn't mean football power, it must mean football weakness. why would FIFA - a football organisation rates a player's strength on other factors apart from football?
that's exactly my point! akinfenwa = 78(physical) robben = 64(physical) any more excuses?
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:35pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar: We are not discussing strong but power. The items 8 listed, Akinfenwa is a lazy footballer. Chikena. coogar: You said Suarez is 79. Ukwu!!! So Suarez is the strongest footballer abi? Go back to the real stats- the 8 items. Robben is the highest among you mentioned. Robben has 663 total. Now case closed finally finally. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:38pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
SailorXY, you guys should discuss how we are to finish top 4 before you talk next season? City and Liverpool still putting pressure on us. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:47pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: if he's lazy, why would he become the strongest player in FIFA for 2 years running?
suarez's physical is 79 suarez's strength is 76 akinfenwa's physical is 78 akinfenwa's strength is 97.
ronaldo has 693 in total and yet he's not the strongest. the parameters weren't added together like a + b + c. an algorithm was used to determine who the most physical players are in the world. robben wasn't among the top 1000 players. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:33pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro:we'll finish in second place! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 4:46pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro:Winning our games should be our concern. More 3 wins and we're OK. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Digriz(m): 5:08pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
LVG should bring back Chicharito,honestly i dnt knw why he hates that guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Wjt8ZLiGs |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 5:28pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
One of Cleverley's best performances today. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by IYANGBALI: 5:54pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
SailorXY:with 5 matches left?amen o |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Emaprince: 6:03pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
MrTA:cleverly is a good player! He was hardworking and a promising young talent under SAF, but moyes killed him. I don't know if he hated cleverly so much. One thing I know is that the guy woulda still be doing good and much more improved if SAF is still in charge. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:10pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
MrTA: cleverley loves playing at wembley - if he had stayed, he woulda also improved like young, fellaini, etc. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 7:24pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
lekkie073: Whether you mean offense or not, I don't give a rat as....'s my beer tastes better when MUFC lose 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ElFenomeno1: 7:25pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
SailorXY: Second place? In FiFa 2015 or where? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 7:50pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
codedguy1: I dey tell you... His obsession with stamina, vigor, power etc would definitely give Yori Yori!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:13pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
coogar: You keep failing yourself. The Suarez and Akinfenwa example above is highly flawed. Strength is already incorporated into your physicality stat. You yourself has said this earlier. Secondly, if CR7 has higher mark than Robben, then I have seen one player who has power than Robben. This is the genuine measurement. There is no any yeye algorithm. The only algorithm is the one off physical stat you presented that puts Suarez above Akinfenma. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:21pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
chrisley024: Let's hope we return to winning ways at Goodison park. All injured players should come back now. I wished it was an EPL match Liverpool lost today. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:32pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
Dadehmola: When I first came to this thread, you were sounding like a drunkard. Honestly, even your most serious posts sounded like being typed by a drunk. You remember when you used to write bluntly like 'IS WELBECK A FOOTBALLER'? even though I was new here with confusing names all over, I have memories of some people and what early opinion I formed about them. After a while, it appeared you got delivered and refined with your posts sounding matured. Now, it look's like the demons are back, your in-house bar is reopened. Yori Yori 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 9:34pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
elampiro: |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:32pm On Apr 19, 2015 |
Saw this from United Fanzone Falcao and Di Maria are actually playing good? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:18am On Apr 20, 2015 |
chrisley024: 1. There is no doubt that Di Maria is very productive, he has lost his place to less productive Young and Mata. But when you look at the overall picture, you will conclude that stats can be misleading. Key pass per minute: Di Maria 32 mins, Janujaz 48 mins, Mata 50 mins, Young 66 mins. Assist per minutes: Di Maria 156, Mata 475, Young 549 Goals per minute: Mata 237, Di Maria 522, Young 824. Looking at the stats, tell me why Young or Mata should bench Di Maria for any reason? But we know better from what we see in matches. 2. Falcao's unsuccessful touch and dispossession is worse in the EPL than his former average from other league. The writer produced the stats per game. The fact that Falcao doesn't play 90 mins makes his dispossession more alarming. His unsuccessful touch is every 29 mins while his dispossession is every 30.5 mins. This is his stats when projected over a game of 90 mins, that is, if he were to play 90 mins regularly. Unsuccessful touch: 3 per game. Dispossession: 2.9 per game. 3. Do you think Falcao has the speed of Hernadez to outpace EPL defenders while staying on the shoulder of the CBs? Even Hernadez find it hard to do in his last two seasons before he went on loan. 4. I am sure Di Maria will be great for us once he adjust his game. I heard too they are working with him in the gym to toughen him up a little. It's just a matter of adjusting to the EPL style. He has to work on his ball retention. When he came on for Mata against City, the very forst ball he got that was totally his control, he passed it backward trying to find our defender, but it was intercepted by a City player. I am not one of those who think Falcao is finished. But he will have to rebuild his scoring confidence over several games. With four strikers in the team, the coach and fans wouldn't have that patience. Chelsea can afford to play Drogba because there is no much competition in that department. Sometimes, as a striker, if you are not scoring, you should have something else to compensate that deficiency. At the moment Falcao has nothing to compensate us with. When I saw Falcao beastly against Cheslea, I thought he was such a beast like Tevez with some skills of Maradona. May be I have not really followed him in the past. When a player like Tevez doesnt score, he puts the defence under pressure. He keeps the ball for others to run into space. When a player like Kanu doesnt score, his overall play and technique compensate. May be we should wait for next season if he will be here. His confidence at the moment is down. May be over competition in that position is also a problem. This was part of Nani's problem when competition became stiff with arrival of Valencia and Young. And Nani couldnt express himself freely. |
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